Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi … and reason we Muslims celebrate the day.

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Peace Brother LK.

I believe you have done lot of reading, and you are also good in tracing information. So, when you ask for information that is easily traceable (in Quran and hadith), I feel there is something wrong somewhere. :slight_smile:

Anyhow, as you asked:

Regarding: ‘Days Prophets are born (and die) are blessed days’.
Above statement was for Prophets (AS) … and not just Prophet (SAW).

In Quran, it is mentioned with reference to two prophets (AS) that:

Yahya (AS): Allah mentions that the day he was born, the day he would die, and the day he would be raised again, are days of peace on him (are blessed days for him).

Isa (AS): it is mentioned in the words of Isa (AS) that the day when he was born, the day he would die, and the day he would be raised again, are all days of peace on him (would be blessed days for him).

Quran 19:15 … Allah saying about Yahya (AS): And peace on him on the day he was born, and on the day he dies, and on the day he is raised to life

Quran 19:33 … Isa (AS) saying about himself: “So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)”!

Even though Quran talks about 2 prophets [Yahya (AS) and Isa (AS)], Allah has mentioned in Quran that one cannot differentiation between Prophets (AS). Hence, what is true for one Prophet is true for all Prophets, and that means, the day prophets (AS) are born, the day Prophets (AS) die, and the day Prophets (AS) would be raised again, are blessed days.

That is what I wrote above, that is: ‘Days Prophets (AS) are born (and die) are blessed days’.

As for Prophet (SAW) I wrote: Prophet (SAW) celebrated this blessed day the way he (SAW) liked to celebrate. The way Prophet (SAW) liked to celebrate his day of birth was fasting, and there is hadith in ‘Sahi Muslim’ to confirm that.

Sahi Muslim … Book #006](6. The Book of Fasting (Kitab Al-Sawm) - Sahih Muslim - 0 - 2606), Hadith #2606](6. The Book of Fasting (Kitab Al-Sawm) - Sahih Muslim - 0 - 2606): Abu Qatada Ansari (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah’s Massenger (may peace be upon him) was asked about fasting on monday, whereupon he said: It is (the day) when I was born and revelation was sent down to me.

Difference is that, Prophet (SAW) used to celebrate his birthday every Monday as prophet (SAW) was born on Monday. But we Muslims, instead of celebrating Prophet (SAW) birthday every Monday, celebrate this blessed auspicious day every year (12 Rabi-ul-Awal).

Another difference between Muslims celebrating birthday of prophet (SAW) and way Prophet (SAW) used to celebrate is that, Prophet (SAW) used to fast on this day, as that was Prophet (SAW) preferred method of celebration. But Muslims who received Prophet (SAW) as gift celebrate by talking about Prophet (SAW) overtly in gatherings, sending Darood-o-Salaam on prophet (SAW) aggressively both overtly and covertly, and have feast to remember, acknowledge and appreciate this gift Allah gave to mankind.

One has to understand that when Muslims celebrate Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi, they are not doing it as Fard or Sunnah … even though we know that Prophet (SAW) also used to celebrate his birthday every Monday (and thus celebration itself on birth can be considered as Sunnah).

Anyhow, Muslims celebrate Eid-e-Milad ul Nabi because of their direct loving relationship and emotional connections with Prophet (SAW). Cause of celebration is to acknowledge and appreciate the gift Allah gave to mankind. So, for most Muslims, this celebration is nothing to do with fulfilling any Sunnah or command of Allah for rewards, though it can also be proven from Quran (however vaguely) that Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi is Allah’s desired celebration (that I am leaving at the moment, because all who celebrate Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi do not celebrate due to that reason).

Obviously, if one celebrates Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi as Allah desired celebration, then selfishness would come in, as then one can say that celebration is not due to love of Prophet (SAW) alone, but due to gaining good deeds and rewards from Allah for Akharat. But when one celebrates this auspicious day without any intention of rewards (on judgment day) than that celebration becomes a celebration due to pure love of Prophet (SAW), and acknowledgement of gift Allah gave to mankind.

It is just like celebrating own child’s birthday in love of the child and also to acknowledge the gift Allah gave on the day/date child was born, without desire of getting reward … hence pure celebration, without desire of any rewards … that is different matter that with such intention, it is possible that rewards from Allah would be there.

Thus personal attachment of Muslims with Prophet (SAW) and acknowledgment by Muslims of Allah’s gift to mankind is such that, Muslims celebrate Eid-e-Milad, with joy and happiness, throughout the world.

Now brother LK … what I am writing further is nothing to do with you or your post, but I am writing what I observe and feel, and thus it is message to all who feel unrest with us Muslims celebrating Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi.

Problem is not celebrating Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi or not, problem is army of Iblees (Shaitan) who do propaganda against Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi and committing haram death (suicide attacks) to kill us Muslims.

For instance, purpose of my post (and thread) was not to start arguments, but I do not know why when we Muslims follow Islam, there are always problem with some.

It is unfortunate that we find people all around, in media and day to day life, who start judging and abusing us Muslims according to their religious beliefs that we do not even consider Islamic. But then, we tolerate them and leave their matter to Allah, but not they, as they think they are guardian (theakadar) of Islam and whatever they believe, everyone has to believe, regardless of what they believe is Shaitanic beliefs as far as we are concerned.

It is also surprising how upset, restless, and agitated Iblees (Shaitan) and his army becomes when they see Muslims follow Islam, and celebrate Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi showing their remembrance, love, respect, happiness and joy on this auspicious occasion. This army of Iblees do all sorts of propaganda against Muslims beliefs, and to stop Muslims celebrating this auspicious event of Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi.

Worse is that, when these ‘army of Shaitan’ do not succeed in making Muslims adopt their beliefs, and stop celebration Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi (and our remembrance of sad Karbela events in Muharram), they get depressed, and in their desperation, they even attack our celebration and our mourning with their haram jahannumi death (suicide attacks). In the process, many Muslims get Shaheed, but Muslims keep showing their love towards Prophet (SAW) and his family, every year all over the world, showing acknowledgment and appreciation towards gift that Allah gave to mankind, and celebrate this blessed day whole-heartedly, knowing the danger to their life from army of Shaitan and their propaganda.

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Peace bro Sa1eem

JazakAllahukhair for the above explanation ... Although I agree with the permissibility of Mawlid it has to be given the correct backing so I will comment on your post above.

The verses in the Qur'an regarding blessings on him the day he was born ... Is more about him (AS) than it is about about the day ... But we can say yes any occasion of happiness is goodness is a natural cause for celebration. Just like when RasoolAllah (SAW) entered Madinah ... The Ansar celebrated ... It was not out of a religious duty they did this ... It was out of love and it was made acceptable ...

We we really need to get that love back ... We are so distant from RasoolAllah (SAW) these days.

You know people argue that to show that we love RasoolAllah (SAW) we should obey him (SAW) ... That is true ... But we should also send Durood on him (SAW) and we should really love him (SAW) ... Just like the Sahabis who used to jump up and take arrows in their chests on the battlefield to protect him (SAW) ...

Fasting is good and I would choose to fast and try to do this once a year, one Monday every month, or every Monday ... A feast can come on Iftar ... No problem ... It is not like an Eid where fasting is haram ... This for me is a different type of celebration to Eid that is the stress that I putting here ... To fast on Eid is haram ... But to NOT fast on this day thinking it is wrong to fast on this day ... is to bring this day as another Eid, and that for me would be bid'ah. Otherwise we celebrate Mawlid in our own way and limit it to the activities that group dzikr and studies have ...

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^^^ Brother, thanks for your comment ...:)

Anyhow ... let me go in Quran to show that it is important that we rejoice (celebrate) the day prophet (SAW) was born ... and rejoicing for human is not fasting but having a feast (spend, spend, spend ...). :)

Even though Muslims celebrate Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi purely because of love of Prophet (SAW) and to acknowledge and appreciate ‘gift of Allah’ to mankind, as what I mentioned in my earlier post, one can justify celebration on birth of Prophet (SAW) from Quran.

For instance: Allah says that Muslims should remember days of Allah. Days of Allah are all associated with Allah’s creation, especially Prophets. For instance:

1: Hajj (visit to Arafat and praying for forgiveness) is associated with Adam (AS) and Hawa (AS).

2: Day (and event) one sacrifice during Hajj is associated with Ibrahim (AS) and Ismael (AS).

3: Day (and event) one run between Safa and Marwa is associated with Bibi Hajra (AS).

4: Day (and event) one throws stones on Shaitan, is associated with Ibrahim (AS).

And so on.

We can see that days of Allah are all associated with past personalities, and certainly day Prophet (SAW) was born is also days of Allah associated with prophet (SAW).

Allah in Quran says that one should remember days of Allah, and obviously, for Muslims, rather for mankind, no day could be better and auspicious than the day Prophet (SAW) was born, as it was this day when Allah presented mankind his most beloved Prophet (SAW) and declared Prophet (SAW) as ‘Mercy on worlds … or … Mercy on all creations of Allah’ (Rahmat-ul-lil Alameen).

Let us go further.

There is no doubt that Allah called prophet (SAW) as Mercy of Allah.

Quran 21:107 … And We have not sent you but as a mercy to the worlds.

Now what Allah tells Muslims to do about Mercy of Allah (that is also bounty of Allah)? ... That is, one should rejoice or celebrate ... and rejoicing or celebrating a day is day of feast, that is true not for Muslims but for entire mankind ...and how one can rejoice is also mentioned, and that is, to spend on this celebration (as Allah says that this rejoice is better than hoarding ... so one can say that what Allah wants is opposite of hoarding or spending when celebrating Mercy of Allah) ... … And here it is in Quran Allah tells that one should rejoice Mercy of Allah:

Quran 10:58 … Say: "In the bounty of Allah. And in His Mercy,- in that let them rejoice": that is better than the (wealth) they hoard.

That means, the day Prophet (SAW) was born (one of the days of Allah) is the day Muslims received Mercy of Allah (received Rahmatul-ul-lil-alameen) and since Muslims should remember days of Allah and rejoice Mercy of Allah (celebrate and spend on that celebration), Muslims should remember and rejoice (celebrate with feast and other spends) birth of Prophet (SAW) … or … celebrate Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi in big way.

Even if anyone says that day Prophet (SAW) was born is not one of days of Allah (as Allah has not pointed out to any day as days of Allah)... still, no one can deny that the day Prophet (SAW) was born was a day this world received 'Mercy' from Allah, as on that day Allah sent 'Mercy to entire creation' or 'Rahmat-ul-lil-Alameen' to this world [actually, as far as I know, Allah has only used the word Mercy directly for prophet (SAW) and Quran]. Since Allah says in Quran that one should rejoice (celebrate) Mercy of Allah, one have to celebrate Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi.

**Note: **Brother Psyah: You wrote that the day Prophets (AS) are born is auspicious day for Prophet (AS) and not for followers, than you are right and wrong ... :)

Right: Because it is an important day for Prophet (AS), no doubt.

Wrong: Because, it is also auspicious day for Prophets (AS) as well as followers of that particular Prophet (AS), as it is this day Allah decided and sent a Warner for them for their guidance. On the other hand, even if the day is important for the Prophet (AS) concerned only (unlikely, as then there would have been no reason for Allah to mention in Quran), than also, it is important that followers of that prophet (AS) celebrate that day to join in the blessing of that day on their Prophet (AS) who guided them, and as a thanks to that Prophet (AS) and Allah.

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I think some days are highly important as reminders for ummah and that is why they should be celebrated.

The day of birth of the prophet of an ummah.

The day a prophet receives his message from Allah.

The day he fulfils his mission in form of establishing the divine kingdom for the ummah.

The revelation itself cannot come to life unless someone makes use of it and turns the revealed program into a reality. So a person who begins and leads this mission. deserves remembrance for later generations so that they do not forget the mission and its purpose and example that was left behind.

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Peace brother Psyah & Sa1eem,

In yours posts if you quote verses and hadith at a time and let for other (like me who is a slow reader) to catch it and then explain further (argue), make me difficult to answer. It will highly appreciated from you brothers, that if we discuss step-by-step, each point and then may move to another points, will make easy to understand for all of us.

Therefore, I request you please discuss each points in short brief detail and wait or give chance to another to make point from his/her side to. :hat:

In shortly, I’ll will reply first to brother Sa1eem’s post then brother Psyah’s post. :jazak:

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Thanks brother Sa1eem

I'm not getting in to this as I already believe Mawlid is okay ... This point however ... I didn't say this ...

I said in the Qur'an ... It says "blessed am I the day I was born, etc" ... Not "blessed is the day when I was born" ... So that is the distinction I was trying to draw earlier.

I also agree that we celebrate Mawlid whereas RasoolAllah (SAW) was observing his own birth in a different way to we would observe it.

We both agree that he (SAW) is Rahmatul'alameen ... That through him (SAW) The Mercy of Allah (SWT) can be realised ... so no need to go into too much detail here.

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Salams bro LK

It is fine that you wish to engage in this bit by bit …so the first bit we should get clear is the topic of bid’ah … because that is the accusation that is being levelled here. Bid’ah are of various types and the ones that are causes of going astray are not ALL of them … Some believe every innovation is a going astray … Then we have no hope … So when we analyse Hadith we must be sure that we aware of how they to be taken in their true context.

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:wsalam: & Peace brother Psyah,

I don’t mind celebrating Milad day but when it is said the Quran & Hadith support it, then ‘Yes’ I have an issue here. :slight_smile: Let me answer brother Sa1eem’s post :slight_smile:

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Peace brother Sa1eem,

Please note that I in no sense trying you or any other person to stop from celebration/commemoration of Milad day. If one wish to do he/she is free to do so, but when Milad is backed-up with sources (hadith & Qur’an) then ‘Yes’ I would like to know/talk about it.

First let see about the verses from Chapter 19. If one say it is in general talks about all Prophets then why today, we are limited to only one (Prophet :saw2: ) when its comes to celebration of Milad? Why not celebration of milads of all other Prophets a.s., is also celebrated? See the image below as an explanation of verse.

Secondly, there are many hadiths narrates about perpetual fasting (however, perpetual fasting is blameable under some instance otherwise commendable) on ‘Monday’ as well as on ‘Thursday’ not on yearly basis but on monthly basis. From fasting, migration from Mecca to Madina, death of the Companion :razi: and the death of our Prophet Muhammad :saw2:, all occurred on ‘Monday’. However, there is no single hadith specifically talks about celebration of Milad on this day, otherwise Prophet :saw2: had hold fast on this day on yearly basis and not on monthly basis (because a person can celebrate his birthday on yearly basis but not on monthly basis). For a reference please see below hadith:

**Book ‘Fasting (Kitab Al-Siyam)’ of Sunan Abu-Dawud, Hadith No. 2446.
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**Narrated Umm Salamah, Ummul Mu’minin: Hunaydah al-Khuza’i reported on the authority of her mother who said: I entered upon Umm Salamah and asked her about fasting. She said: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) used to command me to fast three days every month beginning with Monday or Thursday.
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*You wrote “Prophet (SAW) used to celebrate his birthday every Monday as prophet (SAW) was born on Monday. Prophet (SAW) used to fast on this day, as that was Prophet (SAW) preferred method of celebration.”
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I would like to ask you that where you are getting this? Is it mentioned in hadith or Quran? Because the hadith narrates something else that it is written in Book ‘Fasting (Kitab Al-Siyam)’ of Sunan Abu-Dawud, Hadith No. 2430:

“Narrated Usamah ibn Zayd: The client of Usamah ibn Zayd said that he went along with Usamah to Wadi al-Qura in pursuit of his camels. He would fast on Monday and Thursday. His client said to him: Why do you fast on Monday and Thursday, while you are an old man? He said: The Prophet of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) used to fast on Monday and Thursday. When he was asked about it, he said: The works of the servants (of Allah) are presented (to Allah) on Monday and Thursday.”

In another hadith Book ‘Good Character’ of Malik’s Muwatta hadith No. 47.4.18:

“Yahya related to me from Malik from Muslim ibn Abi Maryam from Abu Salih as-Samman that Abu Hurayra said, "The actions of people are presented twice each week, on Monday and Thursday. Every trusting slave is forgiven except for a slave who has enmity between him and his brother. It is said, 'Leave these two until they turn in tawba. Leave these two until they turn in tawba.”

Here is the full hadith in The Book of Fasting (Kitab Al-Sawm)’ of Sahih Muslim, Hadith No. 2603.

Brother Sa1eem, please tell us where does it states that Prophet :saw2: used to celebrate every Monday. Lets say if we agree upon that He :saw2: celebrate while fasting on every Monday then why Prophet :saw2: felt annoyed when He :saw2: was asked about His :saw2: fasting? rather then answering to the questioner that I celebrate this day by keeping the fast?

Almighty Allah knows best.

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^^^ Before going into this argument, I would like to stress that we Muslims celebrate (rejoice) Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi not because of this event is Fard or Sunnah, but because of love towards Prophet (SAW) and appreciating with acknowledgement that Allah gave gift of ‘Mercy (SAW)’ to humanity on this day. Thus, any proof that this celebration can be verified by Quran and Sunnah is irrelevant as far as we Muslims celebrating this day is concerned, because reason of celebration is not Quran nor Sunnah … but our emotional attachment with Prophet (SAW) and thanks towards Allah who gave us Muslims Mercy and guidance on this day. Whatever proof that Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi can also be backed by Quran and Sunnah is academic, and only adds to reason we celebrate this event.

Reason for our celebrating Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi is same as reason for celebrating our own child’s birthday, as child’s birthday one celebrates in love of the child and also to acknowledge the gift Allah gave on that day/date child was born, without desire of getting reward of any sort from anyone except happiness one gets from celebrating (in case of Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi, without desire of fulfilling fard and Sunnah for rewards) … hence this act of celebration is pure celebration (pure rejoice), without desire or greed of any rewards or fear of any punishment … that is different matter that with such intention, it is possible that rewards from Allah would be there (as Allah likes those who show appreciation of gifts and blessings from Allah and dislikes those who ignore or show no appreciation of gifts and blessings from Allah).

Now, let us get into the topic bit by bit, as you asked.

Question: According to hadith (mentioned in above posts … by you or me):

Did Prophet (SAW) ever acted (even once) in any way (fast or whatever) on a day because he (SAW) was born on that day?

Or

Gave reason for his (SAW) act (fast or whatever), even if you consider that the act was once in his (SAW) lifetime, that his (SAW) act was linked to his (SAW) day of birth?

Please give your answer ‘A’ or ‘B’ (according to hadith)?

A: ‘Yes’ Prophet (SAW) did say that his fast on Monday was because (or also because) he was born on Monday.

B: ‘No’ Prophet (SAW) never mentioned his day of birth for any of his act (fast or whatever).

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Brother, I got your point. :) … anyhow, I think there is flaw in what you understood.

If ayah of Quran is saying that Prophets (AS) are blessed and not those particular days in the life of that Prophets (AS) are blessed, then there was no need to specifically mention 3 particular days and that also associating these 3 particular days twice (in case of 2 Prophets), as Prophets (AS) life is always blessed … as Prophets are not even going through test, rather they are representing Allah and have support of Allah throughout … but days can be special for a person or not, be that person Prophet (AS) or ordinary person. Hence the message in Quran by Allah would have been that:

For Yahya (AS) in words of Allah: He (AS) is blessed

And for Isa (AS) in words of Isa (AS): I am blessed

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That is true ... And it is backed by Hadith above ... Through interpretation we can say that the day becomes blessed when any act of blessings is given to someone important on that day.

I accept your point ... MashaAllah!

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Peace brother sa1eem,

You made your point very clear in your first phrase (post 10) and I guess when it is loud & clear then there is no need to argue further :slight_smile: and I agreed with what you wrote.

:jazak: brother sa1eem & Psyah.

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Bumped for people still opposing Milad in other threads

with details of the forgiveness and blessings Allah Subhanhu wa ta’ala showers upon the Believers at the time of the birth of the Prophet peace and blessings upon him and his family