Egypt elections: Early results show victory for Muslim Brotherhood

They labelled Erdogan as Islamist. Now they are labeling the Egyptian people’s choice as Islamist. I hope the Egyptian Islamist are also like Turkish Islamist.. After years of suffering in the hands of Mubarak regime.. people have casted their vote in favor of Muslim Brotherhood..

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/01/world/middleeast/voting-in-egypt-shows-mandate-for-islamists.html?_r=1&ref=global-home

Early Results in Egypt Show a Mandate for Islamists
CAIRO — Islamists claimed a decisive victory on Wednesday as early election results put them on track to win a dominant majority in Egypt’s first Parliament since the ouster of Hosni Mubarak, the most significant step yet in the religious movement’s rise since the start of the Arab Spring.

The party formed by the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt’s mainstream Islamist group, appeared to have taken about 40 percent of the vote, as expected. But a big surprise was the strong showing of ultraconservative Islamists, called Salafis, many of whom see most popular entertainment as sinful and reject women’s participation in voting or public life.

Analysts in the state-run news media said early returns indicated that Salafi groups could take as much as a quarter of the vote, giving the two groups of Islamists combined control of nearly 65 percent of the parliamentary seats.

That victory came at the expense of the liberal parties and youth activists who set off the revolution, affirming their fears that they would be unable to compete with Islamists who emerged from the Mubarak years organized and with an established following. Poorly organized and internally divided, the liberal parties could not compete with Islamists disciplined by decades as the sole opposition to Mr. Mubarak. “We were washed out,” said Shady el-Ghazaly Harb, one of the most politically active of the group.

Although this week’s voting took place in only a third of Egypt’s provinces, they included some of the nation’s most liberal precincts — like Cairo, Port Said and the Red Sea coast — suggesting that the Islamist wave is likely to grow stronger as the voting moves into more conservative rural areas in the coming months. (Alexandria, a conservative stronghold, also has voted.)

The preliminary results extend the rising influence of Islamists across a region where they were once outlawed and oppressed by autocrats aligned with the West. Islamists have formed governments in Tunisia and Morocco. They are positioned for a major role in post-Qaddafi Libya as well. But it is the victory in Egypt — the largest and once the most influential Arab state, an American ally considered a linchpin of regional stability — that has the potential to upend the established order across the Middle East.

Islamist leaders, many jailed for years under Mr. Mubarak, were exultant. “We abide by the rules of democracy, and accept the will of the people,” Essam el-Erian, a leader of the Brotherhood’s new party, wrote in the British newspaper The Guardian. “There will be winners and losers. But the real — and only — victor is Egypt.”

Results will not be final until January, after two more rounds of voting. And the ultimate scope of the new Parliament’s power remains unclear because Egypt has remained under military rule since Mr. Mubarak resigned as president in February. But Parliament is expected to play a role in drafting a new Constitution with the ruling military council, although the council has given contradictory indications about how much parliamentary input it will allow.

The emergence of a strong Islamist bloc in Parliament is already quickening a showdown with the military. Brotherhood leaders announced Wednesday that they expected the Islamist parliamentary majority to name a prime minister to replace the civilian government now serving the military. In response, a senior official of the military-led government insisted that the ruling generals would retain that prerogative.

The unexpected rise of a strong ultraconservative Islamist faction to the right of the Brotherhood is likely to shift Egypt’s cultural and political center of gravity to the right as well. Leaders of the Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party will likely feel obliged to compete with the ultraconservatives for Islamist voters, and at the same time will not feel the same need to compromise with liberals to form a government.

“It means that, if the Brotherhood chooses, Parliament can be an Islamists affair — a debate between liberal Islamists, moderate Islamists and conservatives Islamists, and that is it,” Michael Wahid Hanna, an Egyptian-born researcher at the Century Foundation in Cairo, said this week.

The ultraconservative Salafi parties, meanwhile, will be able to use their electoral clout to make their own demands for influence on appointments in the new government. Mr. Hanna added: “I don’t mind saying this is not a great thing. It is not a joyous day on my end.”

If the majority proves durable, the longer-term implications are hard to predict. The Brotherhood has pledged to respect basic individual freedoms while using the influence of the state to nudge the culture in a more traditional direction. But the Salafis often talk openly of laws mandating a shift to Islamic banking, restricting the sale of alcohol, providing special curriculums for boys and girls in public schools, and censoring the content of the arts and entertainment.

Their leaders have sometimes proposed that a special council of religious scholars advise Parliament or the top courts on legislation’s compliance with Islamic law. Egyptian election laws required the Salafi parties to put at least one woman on their electoral roster for each district, but they put the women last on their lists to ensure they would not be elected, and some appear with pictures of flowers in place of their faces on campaign posters.

Sheik Hazem Shouman, an important Salafi leader, recently rushed into a public concert on the campus of Mansoura University to try to persuade the crowd to turn away from the “sinful” performance and go home. He defended his actions on a television talk show, saying he had felt like a doctor making an emergency intervention to save a patient dying of cancer.

The new majority is likely to increase the difficulty of sustaining the United States’ close military and political partnership with post-Mubarak Egypt, though the military has said it plans to maintain a monopoly over many aspects of foreign affairs. Islamist political leaders miss no opportunity to criticize Washington’s policies toward Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel and the Palestinians. And while Brotherhood leaders have said they intend to preserve but perhaps renegotiate the 1979 Camp David peace treaty with Israel, the Salafi parties have been much less reassuring. Some have suggested putting the treaty to a referendum.

Speaking on the condition of anonymity, an Israeli official acknowledged concerns: “Obviously, it is hard to see in this result good news for Israel.”

Some members of Egypt’s Coptic Christian minority — about 10 percent of the population — joked Wednesday that they would prepare to leave the country. Previously protected by Mr. Mubarak’s patronage, many have dreaded the Islamists’ talk of protecting the Islamic character of Egypt. Some Brotherhood leaders often repeat that they believe citizenship is an equal right of all regardless of sect, even chanting at some campaign rallies that Copts are also “sons of Egypt.” But Salafis more often declare that Christians should not fear Islamic law because it requires the protection of religious minorities, an explanation that many Christians feel assigns them second-class status.

Most Copts voted for the liberal Egyptian bloc, which was vying for second place with the Salafis in some reports. It was an eclectic alliance against the Islamists, dominated by the Social Democrats, a left-leaning party with ties to the revolution’s leaders, and by the Free Egyptians, the business-friendly party founded and promoted by Naguib Sawiris, the Coptic Christian media-and-telecommunications tycoon.

The results indicated that some of the candidates and slates put forward by the former ruling party appeared to have won back their seats. It was unclear how large a bloc they might form, but they could prove sympathetic to the familiar mantra of stability-above-all that the ruling military is putting forward.

Re: Egypt elections: Early results show victory for Muslim Brotherhood

It hardly matters if winner are secular or Islamist if they form a nice constitution that provides security, justice and equal opportunities to all Egyptians:k:

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Actually Erdogan says he is an Islamist. Also the Tunisian elections were won by the Islamists as well. Though every western media outlet called them Moderate Islamists. Just a face saving measure. Most muslims know that if given a choice muslims would vote for parties who bring about Islam in their countries and not secularism.

Wasn't just a few months ago all of you were harping on how this Arab spring will bring forth secular democracies? Democracies sure. Secular no.

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the people will always support islam in the muslim world, but i doubt this will mean islamic law in egypt just like tunisia and libya we will have more same secularism just they will put islamic sticker on it claiming its halal when it is not.

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I love how some Pakistanis have suddenly turned this into defeat of Secularism! These mental midgets dont even have the capacity to understand the basic concept of secularism.

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LMAO! I guess the New York times was wrong as well. Those damn Pakis in the NYT. They got it all wrong. :D

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History is repating .Islamists cleared Alexandria off the Christianity. Now the turn for the rest of that country. Poor 80 lakhs souls. They will find with the destiny of their forefathers in Alexandria. God knows what is for what

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secularism is dead in the muslim world we now have these few secular fanatics who shouting their mouths off soon they will be finished too only matter of time.

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Interestingly, it looks as though the elections will lead to both an Islamist government and an Islamist opposition.

The Muslim Brotherhood looks to get about 40% of the vote, but the Salafi Al-Nour Party is shaping up to get 20-30% of the vote.

The two groups were antagonistic before the election, with the Brotherhood maintaining that the Salafis were extremists who went beyond the Islamic position on matters, and the Salafis maintained that the Brotherhood consistently compromised on Islamic position.

The Brotherhood looks likely to gain a majority and form a government through co-operation with one of the non-religious parties, which would leave the Salafis as the dominant opposition.

This is actually fairly exciting, as it would create a fairly active political environment where both government and opposition are opposed Islamists, which in turn should help generate a lot of idea about Islamist rule and how it should be carried out.

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Looking into the results actually raises some additional insight. Firstly, the Muslim Brotherhood has explicitly said it is not trying to make an alliance with the Salafis. The following article is on their web site.

http://www.ikhwanweb.com/iweb/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32774:fjp-no-alliance-with-salafist-al-noor-party&catid=10388:paragraphs&Itemid=858

Secondly, even the Salafis see, to be (at the moment) making the kind of sensible statements that one can only wish would come from the extreme wing of the political Islamists in Pakistan. This is quoting a party spokesman

http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/etn/news_content.php?id=1776478

Re: Egypt elections: Early results show victory for Muslim Brotherhood

an islamist party has won in morocco as well

Re: Egypt elections: Early results show victory for Muslim Brotherhood

Christendom's worst Nightmare. All they need is Libya and you have Islamist democracies all across the North of Africa.

Re: Egypt elections: Early results show victory for Muslim Brotherhood

You forgot Algeria

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Not a democracy.

Re: Egypt elections: Early results show victory for Muslim Brotherhood

How many times have you embarrassed yourself on this forum? I mean, you would think by now you would have stopped posting.

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Yes yes. Your opinion really matters.

Re: Egypt elections: Early results show victory for Muslim Brotherhood

Reading through the Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party's manifesto, they name Pakistan as one of the countries that they will strengthen Egypt's ties with.