Its amazing. Not a peep out of the West or any of the democratic countries in the world. The Legislature dissolved. Military back in control. SCAF running the government till a new government is formed. Elections won’t happen till a new constitution is created. However SCAF can replace the constitution writing committee whenever it deems fit and for whatever reason.
The silence is deafening.
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Its amazing. Not a peep out of the West or any of the democratic countries in the world. The Legislature dissolved. Military back in control. SCAF running the government till a new government is formed. Elections won't happen till a new constitution is created. However SCAF can replace the constitution writing committee whenever it deems fit and for whatever reason.
The silence is deafening.
Look who is trying to Emulate the West?
If you saw Bill Moyers Journal today, This famous Journalist described the Democracy in America was run by Billionares, bought lock stock and barrel by big Money!
Mr Bill Moyers characterized America as a Plutocracy!
Plutocracy (from Ancient Greek ploutos, meaning "wealth", and kratos, meaning "power, rule") is rule by the wealthy, or power provided by wealth.
Historically and by the nature of their existence, wealthy minorities have always exerted influence over the political arena. In the modern era, democratic republics around the world permit fundraising for politicians, who rely heavily on such income for advertising their candidacy to the voting public.
So wake up Mr "CM" true democracy exists only in fairy tales!
and Egypt as you mentioned is run by the Army Generals!
I know you will say it is a lame conspiracy theory!
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If you consider democracy an invention of the West, you need to take a history lesson. Most societies at one point or another have had primitive democratic systems. The Loya Jirga in Pashtun custom is an example. Regardless Egypt was well on its way to becoming a very basic democratic model. However now the military has done exactly what it should not have done and the rest of the world is complete silent. Oddly enough they complain about Military Junta's in other countries.
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If the West had said anything, it would have been interference .... Now that they are keeping quiet it becomes bad again. Why dont the muslim nations learn how to govern themselves instead of blindly waiting for the west to show the way. What is OIC doing. Why isnt the silence of OIC deafening. Now it has become a fashion to blame the west for all evils in the Islamic world.
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Muslim Brotherhood is claiming victory with 51.8% of the vote!
Ahmed Shafiq is challenging the result, though. Egypt stands at the a critical moment is history. Around 20 years ago, in another North African country, a military junta cancelled the results of an election when it appeared that Islamists won. That country was Algeria.
If Ahmed Shafiq is perceived to have used Hosni Mubarak's cronies in the courts to overturn this result, the message that this sends to Egypt's Islamists is that they will never be allowed to fairly participate in the democratic process, even after a popular revolution such as that in Egypt. At that point their is no further incentive to seek peaceful change through democracy.....
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Of course. this doesn't really matter since last night the Egyptian military announced that they were giving all power to themselves, but still...
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Yeah because Libya and Syria are not issues of interference. 
Its become a fashion due to the double standards. Bahrain is a perfect example. After all Doctors should be sentenced to 15 years in jail for aiding wounded people
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What is OIC doing about it..twiddling their thumbs
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You are asking the Monarchs of Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE and Oman to comment on Democracy? Yet you have no qualms when Western nations turn a blind eye? Wow.
Regardless Bahrain and all these Gulf Countries want the military in power. They don't want democracy in Egypt. Seems the West doesn't want it either.
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Why hasn't our dear friend Underthedome come to voice his disgust on the Egyptian Army taking over right after the results were announced? Oh wait....because this coup is a "good one by the good guys"....
I'll be sure to remind him to visit here next time he visits and sheds crocodile tears on Syrian Govt's massacre of its citizens.
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You are asking the Monarchs of Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE and Oman to comment on Democracy? Yet you have no qualms when Western nations turn a blind eye? Wow.
Regardless Bahrain and all these Gulf Countries want the military in power. They don't want democracy in Egypt. Seems the West doesn't want it either.
How long can somebody keep interfering in some other country's internal affairs if there are no ulterior motives :)
Also it is not just about democracy it is about good governance. Does it mean that these Islamic rulers do not have any thoughts for their poor brethren...
Then why shed crocodile tears for the Palestinians.
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How long can somebody keep interfering in some other country's internal affairs if there are no ulterior motives :)
Also it is not just about democracy it is about good governance. Does it mean that these Islamic rulers do not have any thoughts for their poor brethren... Then why shed crocodile tears for the Palestinians.
Ask the West. They did it in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Syria etc. That is the past 4 years alone.
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Please read the post fully. You will understand. They have their own reasons.
You did not answer my question though
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Yeah interesting isn't it that you don't read what I wrote. You make an incorrect assumption. I don't care for Arab monarchies. I don't care for any form of government that suppresses its people. So yeah it means the Islamic arab dictators and monarchs don't care about their people.
Neither does the West. This regard there is no difference between the leaders of Saudi Arabia and the US or EU,
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Yeah interesting isn't it that you don't read what I wrote. You make an incorrect assumption. I don't care for Arab monarchies. I don't care for any form of government that suppresses its people.** So yeah it means the Islamic arab dictators and monarchs don't care about their people.
Neither does the West. This regard there is no difference between the leaders of Saudi Arabia and the US or EU,**
There is a fundamental difference.West cares about their people while the Islamic dictators do not.
Also you are prone to start topics on related topics. So why dont you start a topic on why the Arab dictators are sleeping .... Why crib only about the west.
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Yup only their people. Democracy is an inconvenience when it doesn't suit their needs. Egypt is a perfect example so is Bahrain.
My cribbing is 100% factually correct and directly on point. You just don't want to see it. As Faithless says "You don't need eyes to see you need vision".
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You might have a case for bahrain, but egypt is in no way comparable to what has happened in syria. Hafez al assad and even his son are a league of their own when it comes to brutality of force.
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Yup only their people. Democracy is an inconvenience when it doesn't suit their needs. Egypt is a perfect example so is Bahrain.
Imagine for a minute that you have a neighbor who constantly beats his grown up children with an iron rod. You as a good neighbor tell him to not do it. He continues to beat his children regardless of you telling him. What do you do. You shut up and move on. Now if you were planning to get your daughter married to his son, you would definitely interfere more and ensure that he stops this habit.
Now imagine if the father of the neighbor knows what is happening and does not do anything to stop this mindless attacks what can you as a neighbor do.
It has become a fashion to blame somebody else for one's own faults. That has to stop and people need to take ownership of their own countries. Do not expect a free lunch wherever you go.
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Imagine for a minute that you have a neighbor who constantly beats his grown up children with an iron rod. You as a good neighbor tell him to not do it. He continues to beat his children regardless of you telling him. What do you do. You shut up and move on. Now if you were planning to get your daughter married to his son, you would definitely interfere more and ensure that he stops this habit. Now imagine if the father of the neighbor knows what is happening and does not do anything to stop this mindless attacks what can you as a neighbor do.
It has become a fashion to blame somebody else for one's own faults. That has to stop and people need to take ownership of their own countries. Do not expect a free lunch wherever you go.
No you call the police. That is what you do. What kind of person are you? That example is just retarded. You are gonna walk away when kids are being beaten with iron bars? Seriously? That is beyond pathetic.
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Dont take the message and garble it. What if the police is powerless. In this case UN is powerless. People who have sense can understand the example. Blaming somebody else for your own fault is not going to help. Look within and understand what the problem is.