East Pakistan: Atrocity propaganda?

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Whatever a large number of Bengalis wanted regarding staying part of Pakistan or not was of no consequence when and overwhelming force of Indians and Traitors were surrounding Dhaka. Military defeat was completely unavoidable and the independence of Bangladesh would have been enforced by the Indian army.

I'm sure that the soldiers themselves would have rather been martyred than face what happened. But Niazi was responsible for their lives and he fulfilled that responsibility through not throwing them away in a futile cause.

Whilst I once despised Niazi for giving in without a fight, I now hold immense respect for his final decision to surrender Dhaka. He threw away his honour and in return he secured the lived of 95,000 mean who were able to return, alive, to their mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, sons and daughters.

He utterly disgraced himself so the men under him could live.

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Now in Indian circles there are many who think that it was a wrong decision to liberate East-Pakistan.
First of all we helped Pakistan to get rid of a permanent headache.
Second, the Bengali infiltration to India has become a greater menace to Indian sovereignty.
A war which India won in 1971, actually lost in next thirty years.

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mad Scientist,

Go on justify this coward ness and disgrace to whole nation. The down size is after break up, Pakistan had never been able to see India as equal and became a banana republic like Nepal and Bhutan. In 1965 though Pakistan did not win the war but the velour shown by the people had no parallel. People lost their lives in that war are still respected and remembered with reverence.

FARID

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interesting read zakk, thanks. i wonder where our honorary mujubur rehmans madhanee and ohioguy are at this time

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In her ground-breaking book, Against Our Will: Men, Women and Rape, Susan Brownmiller likened the 1971 events in Bangladesh to the Japanese rapes in Nanjing and German rapes in Russia during World War II. “… 200,000, 300,000 or possibly 400,000 women (three sets of statistics have been variously quoted) were raped. Eighty percent of the raped women were Moslems, reflecting the population of Bangladesh, but Hindu and Christian women were not exempt. … Hit-and-run rape of large numbers of Bengali women was brutally simple in terms of logistics as the Pakistani regulars swept through and occupied the tiny, populous land …” (p. 81).

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lol...so people actually believe this?

what a joke

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If you are prepared to believe that unproven rubbish from that site, then maybe you will also believe the cases it has documented about Indian genocide in Kashmir and Punjab?

***The northern Indian states of Kashmir and Punjab have been among the most conflictive regions of the world in recent decades. The killings and “disappearances” have evinced a strong gendercidal component, with younger men overwhelmingly targeted. The violence has spilled over into the rest of India, most notably with the Delhi Massacre of 1984 – one of the worst gendercidal slaughters of modern times. ***

http://www.gendercide.org/case_kashmir_punjab.html

Or the cases of Indian (and Chinese) genocide against female girls i.e. infanticide.

As John-Thor Dahlburg points out, “in rural India, the centuries-old practice of female infanticide can still be considered a wise course of action.” (Dahlburg, “Where killing baby girls ‘is no big sin’,” The Los Angeles Times [in The Toronto Star, February 28, 1994.]) According to census statistics, “From 972 females for every 1,000 males in 1901 … the gender imbalance has tilted to 929 females per 1,000 males. … In the nearly 300 poor hamlets of the Usilampatti area of Tamil Nadu [state], as many as 196 girls died under suspicious circumstances [in 1993] … Some were fed dry, unhulled rice that punctured their windpipes, or were made to swallow poisonous powdered fertilizer. Others were smothered with a wet towel, strangled or allowed to starve to death.”

http://www.gendercide.org/case_infanticide.html

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reza it is not propaganda these things realy happened nationlism make you blind

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reza it is not propaganda these things realy happened nationlism make you blind

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reza it is not propaganda these things realy happened nationlism make you blind

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reza it is not propaganda these things realy happened nationlism make you blind

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So if you want us to believe that it is not propoganda based on what Gendercide says, then you must also believe what it says about the genocides against Kashmiri’s, Sikhs and females that India has committed? Or are you letting your nationalism blind you?

Here is more on Indian genocide from YOUR site:-

***On October 31, 1984, the Indian Prime Minister, Indira Gandhi, who had ordered Operation Bluestar, was assassinated in a revenge attack by her two Sikh bodyguards. Over the following five days, one of the worst gendercidal massacres of modern times took place in the Indian capital, Delhi. The victims were Sikh males of all ages. At 10 p.m. on the evening following the Prime Minister’s assassination, widespread killings broke out across Delhi, apparently organized by the Hindu extremist parties that have become prominent players in Indian politics. Hindu men roamed the streets, declaring an open season on Sikh males (those who were religiously observant were easily identified by their long hair and turbans). The gendercidal character of the killings was indeed almost total. ***

Come on, don’t be a hypocrite and believe what you want, and ignore what you don’t like when the same site exposes your nations genocides.

http://www.gendercide.org/case_kashmir_punjab.html

If you persists with this hypocrisy, I will post more from YOUR site and others, to remove your nationalistic blinkers.

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Actually, all Pakistani armymen were descended from Farishtay. Those millions or so of Bengalis actually faked their own death and are now living in a pind outside Sialkot. The women raped themselves and the babies cut themselves and buried themselves. This is all a conspiracy, I tell ya...

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shabash meray lal..bas ab rona band karoo. yeh lou tissue.

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This is a fact that Pakistan has learnt nothing of BanglaDesh issui.

It is an old story of finding designs, blaming others, and when 30+ years are over they are here to blame the women raped. Bravo!

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No u r totally wrong they ve learnt a lot from BD issue and the flowers of which r blooming in Kashmir:p:rolleyes:

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Do you have any real, non biased sources to back you up or are you just ranting based purely on the fact that your an India?
I want a source that says that Pakistani Army murdered MILLIONS (Note even the holocaust wasnt so efficient), and that the only one going around commiting attrocites was the Pak Army. Otherwise, you have no case…

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Im willing to believe that Indians being biased as they are, started filling the history books with all kinds of ditortions and lies… Unless you can prove the allegations, why should we believe them? Atleast when we accuse your army of raping and murdering thoudands of Kashmiris we give you non biased proof…

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I will accept it if you give me a non Biased, meaning no Indian or non Bengali source.. Bengali’s tend to overlook some of the crimes their people commited against those living their of Western Pakistani descent..

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if i say will u believe me:)