Why don’t the scientist try to figure out if there could be intelligence & life in planets around us that do not require oxygen and water? I understand that water is necessary to sustain ‘life’ as we know it but it could mean nothing to another specie.
Can’t we think outside the box and look for intelligent beings who do not follow the laws of ‘mother (world) nature’ as we know it?
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perhaps the rocks on Mars are 'living' things, but since their timeframe and time-experience is different it takes 'our' 1000 years for them to move a single 'limb' ;)
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Ok smart alec. But you presume that they need to move a limb to move from one place to another. Can't they be in one place and another at the same time? Physically speaking they can't but that's what I am trying to explore, imagining things outside the realm of known laws.
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OK so may be there is "life" in outerspace that's out of our reach, but to grasp the idea of these beings, one needs to know HOW they survive if they don't move, grow, breathe, or eat, etc. The question is, even if these beings exist, how do they live?
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throughout the universe scientists will never be able to find life in another planet becuz the things that are necessary for us to live, u can only find them in earth... I'm trying to think of a surah about that tho...when i remember it ill post it here..
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The mission was sent to Outerspace.. with a Jelly sort of Substance in NET sort of thing :D
Reason was...... To Catch the Particles in Outerspace ... Those will be Stuck to That Jelly and... While the Mission is Back.. they will Test it.
The Return Date of that Mission was.. JAN 2005. They were very Hopeful that they will Catch something LIVE this time... SO Lets wait till the Result is announced.
On one of the MOON(Now I cant REmember the Planet name for that moon) There is Always.... Rain of METHANE... (CH4) and Methane is widely availbe ORGANIC substane on Earth as well... So they are Looking for some sort of life there that is Related to MEthane... Maybe ... That Creature breath Hydrogen and eat Carbon :D
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Well, I hope we get to see something alive this time. These kinds of missions have been launched a thousand times. 
The moon you are talking about is Saturn’s largest moon, Titan. It also is the largest moon in the solar system. Anyway, that’s off topic. Methanogens, methane producing organisms, are responsible for producing methane under water. There’s a possibility that mars has these organisms.
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ÄJ, coming back to your original question, the only to find life on other planets is let go of our paradigm that Carbon-structures are needed for life to succeed. However, if we do that we don't have the faintest of ideas on what restriction/criteria we shud base our search. So any life-form we find outside the carbon-paradigm will be a stroke of coincidence
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Interesting what someone said about time being relative (rock on Mars …). Doumented Veda literatures explain a hierarchy of time - a human day vs a Indra day vs Brahma’s second etc.
In another place they also show how even these hierarchies are not linear and refer to the ‘filter of the yuga’ or yuga dharma…as mentioned below
The theory of Cycles, or Yugas, is described in the Mahabharata. Four Yugas make up the duration of a day for Brahma, the creative principle. The first period is called the Krita Yuga in Sanskrit, or the Age of Wisdom; the second, the Treta Yuga or the Age of Ritual, is a time when ritual replaces wisdom. The third age is termed the Dvapara Yuga or the Age of Doubt.
The fourth and final age is the Kali Yuga, or the Age of Conflict.
The Mahabharata and the Puranas contain lengthy descriptions of the events which take place during the Kali Yuga. Along with the usual predictions of disasters, floods, and famines is the diverting notion that “Ready-cooked food will be on sale.” (Linga Purana, chapter 40; Danielou, 1987, page 212).Our modern fast food restaurants may be telling us something.
Zecharia Sitchin’s asserts that the Nefilim measured time in a different way than we do; 3,600 of our Earth years are only one year, termed a shar, for the family of Anu. The recent developments in Quantum physics have allowed a greater flexibility in our thinking and today people commonly consider time as relative.
Quantum realities such as: “There is no deep reality. There is no quantum world. There is only an abstract quantum description.” (Herbert, 1985, page 16, 17), “Reality is created by observation.” (Herbert, 1985, page 17), and “Consciousness creates reality.” (Herbert, 1985, page 24), can also apply to the way we experience time. The perception of time is relative to individual consciousness.
Not only do the Nefilim experience time differently than we do, as Mr. Sitchin suggests; but perhaps we, who are now living in the twilight of the Kali Yuga, can only experience time through the filter of the mode which corresponds uniquely to that Yuga. “Traditional man did not have the same experience of time as modern man; he had a supertemporal sense of time and in this sensation lived every form of his world.” (Evola, 1995, page xxxii).
The Kali Yuga is considered to have begun around 3400 BC. Mr. Sitchin gives 3450 BC. as the date for Tower of Babel incident when the Anunnaki confused Mankind’s languages.
“That there was initially a time when mankind ‘spoke in unison’ is a tenet of Sumerian historical recollections. These also assert that the confusion of languages, accompanying the dispersion of mankind, was a deliberate act of the gods.”
(Sitchin, 1985, page 198).
Could it be that the Kali Yuga began when “Marduk started a chain of events replete with tragedies.” (Sitchin, 1985, page 199)? Perhaps Marduk played his part in initiating a fundamental change in our perceptions of time, and with this change, we human beings lost our ability to see the gods.
Trapped in the limiting time frequencies of the Kali Yuga, modern man is no longer able to perceive and communicate with other dimensional realities. DIVINE ENCOUNTERS is the historical record of those who in their time were considered as the “great ones” who had retained, possibly through their genetic lineage, the ability to communicate with the gods or God, even if only in their dream state. No one dared to doubt that Abraham, Moses, or King David spoke to invisible beings.
“In traditional societies the ‘invisible’ was an element as real, if not more real, than the data provided by the physical senses.” (Evola, 1995, page 4).
No one who has ever been to the Greek island of Delos would underestimate the importance the ancient world placed on communication with the so-called ‘invisible’ world. The ancient Greeks, Chinese, Celts, and many others accessed knowledge from the “other” side.
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^are these things from the other side extraterrestials, as in not from Earth? or just other inhabitants of the Earth, like animals, plants etc
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This thread reminds of of the movie 'Contact'....there can be so many scenarios that we can't even come imagine about them.
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silicon based life forms are suggested as a possibility on planets with much higher temperatures and pressures, but when looking at a planet with conditions similar to earth (like mars), it makes sense to look for carbon based life forms atleast to begin with.
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As matter can be turned into energy and vice versa, then there may be a life form which is capable of doing so ?
So at times it may not have any material existance and other times it may turn into something with physical identification..
Say what ?
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yeah.. they should think outside the box.. i've had enough trouble finding intelligent lifeform on THIS planet! there's more 'outer space' between the ears of most people than 'out there'.
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would all depend upon how you choose to define “life form”. our universe does convert mass to energy all through its “life”. all subatomic particles do have this capability and have lifetimes too. every bit of matter is headed towards the sure death of high entropy..
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Isn't it possible that we have already discovered/encountered other life forms without even knowing it?
Maybe there is a life form that has a basic form and structure that is distinguished by energy emission. We detect the energy emission but because we cannot conceive of a life form with an energy basis and don't understand any other traits or characteristics that such a life form might have, we don't recognize it as a life form.
Maybe there is a life form that has a gaseous basis. We detect the gas but don't have a clue what other constituent parts/traits to look for to determine whether the gas is a different life form.
If you don't have a theory or hypothesis about what some other life form might look like, you'll never find it unless it has the ability to tap you on the shoulder and say "hi."