Re: Dubai secures control of six crucial ports
^ Who cares when he is not coming back anyway!
The point is that hillybillys elected him in 2004 when they shouldn't have.
That tells a lot about the mentality of these fundamentalist hillybillys.
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You voted for him! 
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CIA was kneedeep not so long ago with this alqaeda / wahabiism saudis.
Whats your point REALLY? 
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Morans? Let's keep some facts in mind;
*Two of the Hijackers on 911 were from the UAE.
*Money to finance 911 went through UAE Banks.
* The UAE was an important transfer point for shipments of smuggled nuclear components via AQ Khan.
* The Company now taking charge of these U.S. ports is UAE Controlled, Government Owned not Independent.
* UAE doesn't recognize Israels right to exist.
Put all those togather and you still want to call those who are calling for a review of this deal morans? National security is a priority, sorry if your feelings get hurt.
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What does US security have to do with Israel?
Infact, Israel has threatened US security many times itself by actions like the spy Jonathan Polard or attacking US ship Liberty and killing american sailors.
But that can't be true, can it? ;) :)
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*Two of the Hijackers on 911 were from the UAE.
So what? America is home to thousands of murderers. Oh-oh...better let the French handle your ports. See, this logic is stupid. The question is, how complicit was the UAE government in supporting the Hijackers? The answer is known: not at all.
Let's also not forget that these hijackers made America their home for some time.
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*Money to finance 911 went through UAE Banks.
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And American ones. Not a good enough reason. Have concerns about auditing or traceability? Good, so do I. American banks and security officials are working with banks overseas on this matter post-911...this is hardly a UAE-specific problem.
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- The UAE was an important transfer point for shipments of smuggled nuclear components via AQ Khan.
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...so was Holland....(that's where Mr. Khan got his know-how). French are also complicit in distributing WMD technology here and there. Just ask saddam.
Fact is, if there is a black market concern...that's all the more reason to work closely with these governments rather than isolate them. A black market is just that...a black market. Is he UAE government complicit? Are they uncooperative in trying to control the black market?
Needless to say, I wouldn’t be surprised if Europe and America at some point were also used by Mr. Khan...aren’t black markets fun?
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- The Company now taking charge of these U.S. ports is UAE Controlled, Government Owned not Independent.
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Yup...and that's a good point. I mentioned it above. In fact, this point should be at the top of the list as to why this is a bad idea...
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- UAE doesn't recognize Israels right to exist.
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Nor does Saudi Arabia...oops...better switch to an electric car pronto. UAE is a non-player in middle-east politics...never mind the fact that the statement is not accurate as the UAE is pro-talks.
So, with one valid point and a bunch of moronic ones...I think my original assessment holds...
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Israel is an ally that's why it matters.
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Infact, Israel has threatened US security many times itself by actions like the spy Jonathan Polard or attacking US ship Liberty and killing american sailors.
But that can't be true, can it? ;) :)
Let's not forget about their shipping of patriot anti-missile technology to China. And advanced avionics...and possibly some AWACS technology.
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The fact is UAE scored an F before 9/11 in regards to cracking down on terrorsits so why should they be allowed to run the ports without a review of changes that have been made since then that is acceptable to Congress?
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so bush govt is anti US?
interesting to see people's prejudice show up as one excuse or another :)
oh well, nothing that is a surprise really.
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prejudice: An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts
Fraudia let's look at UAE before 9/11 and what was going on, the concern is based on prior facts.
As far as Bush is concerned how can anyone at this point trust his judgement?
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I dont recall any prior facts where UAE or the company in question threatened US.
As far as not trusting bush's judgements goes, for our politicians its pick and choose, the ones that suit their agenda they are all over ad the ones that differ from their real agenda get critiqued.
Fairly obvious.
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I smell BCCI and Contra.
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I feel sooooo much smarter just reading this.. i hope one day i can contribute something decent 
Blitzy, no i didnt vote for Bush. i didnt vote at all, the voting ppl misspelled my name 
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Xenophobia, stereotyping of Arabs, narrow mindedness, age-old prejuidices, mass hysteria, propaganda and most importantly "Protectionists policies".
Not very long ago, the Chinese wanted to buy Unocal a medium sized oil and gas company with most of its assets in Asia and Australia. Deal was not allowed by the free-markets because it threatened their "state security". Say what? Turn the clock to the eighties when Japs had all the money and started buying American heritage companies and real estate, same kind of xenophobic mantras were dished out but then free markets still had some muscle and could take independent decisions. Today, that is not possible. Free markets are dictated by security needs, financial feasabilities and economics are deemed irrelevant.
Bush administration has decided to support this deal, lets c whether this is just a marketing facade or real determination.
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Scored an F? According to whom? Ms. McGillicuty of 1st grade?
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^ Don't be so coy!
The point is that your power elite (not just limited to bush) were with these same fundos when it mattered so don't blame others for the $hit they caused in the first place!
"You play, you pay!" ;)
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As far as Bush is concerned how can anyone at this point trust his judgement?
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Where was it all then when you elected him?
Xenophobic mentally challenged hillybillies!
Re: Dubai secures control of six crucial ports
Not very long ago, the Chinese wanted to buy Unocal a medium sized oil and gas company with most of its assets in Asia and Australia. Deal was not allowed by the free-markets because it threatened their "state security". Say what? Turn the clock to the eighties when Japs had all the money and started buying American heritage companies and real estate, same kind of xenophobic mantras were dished out but then free markets still had some muscle and could take independent decisions. Today, that is not possible. Free markets are dictated by security needs, financial feasabilities and economics are deemed irrelevant.
The Chinese govt was the major investor in the company. That is why the deal was rejected.
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I haven’t read through the whole thread but just wanna make it clear that whatever the UAE company is buying will let them take the revenues of the port loading and unloading business. It’s not like the company control the ports in terms of what/who can dock and who can’t.
Anyway, I think interdependency brings forth an understanding among people, societies and countries. The only reason some politicians are raising this issue is because it is an election year and they want to expose how the Bush Administration is closely related to the Middle eastern business community.
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Well it's good to know that you guys won't have a problem when you see the headline;
"Pakistan Hands Control of Nuclear Program over to U.S."
The fact is UAE was a hub for some of the terrorists involved in the 9/11 attacks. There were terrorist operations run from UAE as well as many financial transaction occuring in the UAE going to support terrorists including Bin Laden. After 9/11 UAE took two weeks to break off its ties with the Taliban and the treasury department reported resistance from the UEA in cooperating in tracking down Bin Laden's bank accounts. These are facts. To think that a review of this transaction by Congress is not needed shows pure stupidity.