Sadiyah
February 12, 2006, 3:39am
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Assalamo alaykum,
While looking up material on the method of offering witr salah, I came across some stuff on duaa al qunoot that I thought I should share.
Firstly:
Du’a’ al-Qunoot is recited in the last rak’ah of Witr prayer, after bowing, but if one recites it before bowing it doesn’t matter. But reciting it after bowing is better.
Shaykh al-Islam [Ibn Taymiyah] said in Majmoo’ al-Fataawa (23/100):
With regard to qunoot: there are two extreme views and one middle (or moderate) view. Some say that qunoot should only be recited before bowing and some say that it should only be recited after bowing. The fuqaha’ among the scholars of hadeeth, such as Ahmad and others, say that both are allowed, because both are mentioned in the saheeh Sunnah, but they preferred reciting qunoot after bowing because this is mentioned more often.
Raising the hands is mentioned in a saheeh report from ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him), as was narrated by al-Bayhaqi in a report which he classed as saheeh (2/210).
The worshipper should raise his hands to chest height and no more, because this du’aa’ is not a du’aa’ of supplication in which a person needs to raise his hands high. Rather it is a du’aa’ of hope in which a person holds out his palms towards heaven… The apparent meaning of the scholar’s words is that the worshipper should hold his hands close together like a beggar who asks someone else to give him something.
It is better not to recite qunoot in witr all the time, rather it should be done sometimes, because there is no evidence that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did it all the time. But he taught al-Hasan ibn ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) a du’aa’ to recite in qunoot al-witr, as will be quoted below.
Please refer to the link for the duaa and additional information.
Ref: Du’aa’ al-Qunoot in Witr prayer
Praise be to Allaah.
1 – There is noting wrong with reading the du’aa’ of Qunoot from a piece of paper or a booklet in Witr prayer until one is able to memorize it, after which you can stop reading it and can recite it from memory. It is also permissible to recite Qur’aan from the Mus-haf during naafil prayers for those who have not memorized a lot of Qur’aan.
2 – It is not obligatory for the du’aa’ of Qunoot to be in the words narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him); rather it is permissible for the worshipper to say other words or to add to them. Even if he were to recite verses from the Qur’aan that include words of supplication, that would be sufficient. Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Note that there is no specific du’aa’ for Qunoot according to the preferred point of view. Any du’aa’ that is said will serve as Qunoot, even if one recites a verse or verses from the Qur’aan that include words of supplication, this will count as Qunoot, but it is better to recite the words that were narrated in the Sunnah.
Al-Adhkaar al-Nawawiyyah, p. 50
4 – With regard to what the brother says about Qunoot being obligatory, this is not correct, because Qunoot is Sunnah. Based on this, if a worshipper omits Qunoot, his prayer is still valid.
Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about the ruling on reciting the du’aa’ of Qunoot in Witr during the nights of Ramadaan, and whether it is permissible to omit it.
He replied:
Qunoot is Sunnah in Witr and if a person omits it sometimes, there is nothing wrong with that.
And he was asked about a person who always recites Qunoot in Witr every night – was that narrated from our forebears (the salaf)?
He replied:
There is nothing wrong with that, rather it is Sunnah, because when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) taught al-Husayn ibn ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) to say Qunoot in Witr, he did not tell him to omit it sometimes or to do it all the time. This indicates that either is permissible. Hence it was narrated that when Ubayy ibn Ka’b (may Allaah be pleased with him) led the Sahaabah in prayer in the Mosque of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), he used to omit Qunoot some nights; perhaps that was in order to teach the people that it is not obligatory. And Allaah is the Source of strength.
Fataawa Islamiyyah, 2/159.
Ref: Is the du’aa’ of Witr obligatory, and what should a person say if he cannot memorize it?
Sadiyah
February 12, 2006, 3:46am
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The answer is: for Du’aa’ al-Qunoot in Witr prayer a number of wordings have been narrated, including the following:
1 – The version which the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) taught to al-Hasan ibn ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him), which is:
“Allaahumma ihdini feeman hadayta wa ‘aafini feeman ‘aafayta wa tawallani feeman tawallayta wa baarik li feema a’tayta, wa qini sharra ma qadayta , fa innaka taqdi wa la yuqda ‘alayk, wa innahu laa yadhillu man waalayta wa laa ya’izzu man ‘aadayta, tabaarakta Rabbana wa ta’aalayta la munji minka illa ilayk
(O Allaah, guide me among those whom You have guided, pardon me among those whom You have pardoned, turn to me in friendship among those on whom You have turned in friendship, and bless me in what You have bestowed, and save me from the evil of what You have decreed. For verily You decree and none can influence You; and he is not humiliated whom You have befriended, nor is he honoured who is Your enemy. Blessed are You, O Lord, and Exalted. There is no place of safety from You except with You).”
(Narrated by Abu Dawood, 1213; al-Nasaa’i, 1725; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Irwa’, 429).
It was narrated from ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to say at the end of Witr:
“Allaahumma inni a’oodhu bi ridaaka min sakhatika wa bi mu’aafaatika min ‘uqoobatika wa a’oodhu bika minka, la uhsi thana’an ‘alayka anta kama athnayta ‘ala nafsika (O Allaah, I seek refuge in Your pleasure from Your wrath and in Your forgiveness from Your punishment. I cannot praise You enough; You are as You have praised Yourself.”
(Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 1727; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Irwa’, 430; Saheeh Abi Dawood, 1282).
Then he should send blessings upon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) as it was narrated that some of the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) – including Ubayy ibn Ka’b and Mu’aadh al-Ansaary (may Allaah be pleased with them) – did that at the end of Qunoot al-Witr.
(See Tasheeh al-Du’aa’ by Shaykh Bakr Abu Zayd, p. 460).
Ref: Qunoot during salaah
Lajawab
February 12, 2006, 4:21am
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Sadiyah…
Excellently informative post…
“Allaahumma ihdini feeman hadayta wa ‘aafini feeman ‘aafayta wa tawallani feeman tawallayta wa baarik li feema a’tayta, wa qini sharra ma qadayta , fa innaka taqdi wa la yuqda ‘alayk, wa innahu laa yadhillu man waalayta wa laa ya’izzu man ‘aadayta, tabaarakta Rabbana wa ta’aalayta la munji minka illa ilayk "
I recite the same except the bolded parts…(I learned it from a book called ‘The Citadel of the Believer’ (An excellent book…It is a tiny book and can be gotten fi sabilillah from Darussalam publications…)
Many points have been clarified for me which I was ignorant about…May you be rewarded for it…
As usual, we know so little about the Fiqh of our faith and consider ourselves Muslims…
Thanks again…:k:
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The worshipper should raise his hands to chest height and no more, because this du’aa’ is not a du’aa’ of supplication in which a person needs to raise his hands high. Rather it is a du’aa’ of hope in which a person holds out his palms towards heaven… The apparent meaning of the scholar’s words is that the worshipper should hold his hands close together like a beggar who asks someone else to give him something.
I am a bit confused by this, do they mean we have to raise our hands the way we do when we make a du’a at the end of prayers? because the way i’ve been doing it and the way i’ve seen others do it is, they raise their hands and say Allah o Akbar the way they do when starting the namaz after doing the niyah…
and yes Jazak’Allah khair sadiyah, it was very useful, i didn’t know half of the stuff there. may Allah(swt) reward you for your deeds. Ameen
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You should do it like you make dua at end of the prayer... raising hands and should be done after you get up from last rukoo.
AQ
February 12, 2006, 4:57am
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Let’s just not get confused.
There are two different ways that Rasooulah:saw: performed the wit’r with.
One is as mentioned in the original text of the thread.
Second is the one that Imam Abu Hanifa:rehm: prefers, in which you have to say takbeer in the third rakah before the rukoo and raise your hands to your ears and fold them again and then recide dua al qanoot and then complete the rest of the Wajib al Wit’r
I have prayed both ways but normally I follow the hanafi school of thought.
Re: Duaa al Qunoot during Witr Salah
Let’s just not get confused.
There are two different ways that Rasooulah:saw: performed the wit’r with.
One is as mentioned in the original text of the thread.
Second is the one that Imam Abu Hanifa:rehm: prefers, in which you have to say takbeer in the third rakah before the rukoo and raise your hands to your ears and fold them again and then recide dua al qanoot and then complete the rest of the Wajib al Wit’r
I have prayed both ways but normally I follow the hanafi school of thought.
yea that’s how i pray and all the masjid people pray (not just pakistanis but arabs and what not)
but during Ramadan we did go to a masjid who mostly had africans, and they would pray the 2 rakahs and then pray one rakah and raise their hands as if making a dua and they would recite a lambi chori dua. so i suppose these are the two different ways and you can do either or
Sadiyah
February 12, 2006, 5:04am
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I read it the way AQ mentioned with the exception that I raise my hands for duaa.
AQ
February 12, 2006, 5:08am
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so i suppose these are the two different ways and you can do either or
Yes.. I have prayed it the other way (2 and then 1 rakah) only once few years back on 27th night of Ramadan when Dr. Israr Ahmed lead us the prayer that night even though he himself normally does the other way.
I'vee seen the same method used in Harmain Shareefain during Ramadan Congregational Wit'r prayer.
The important point is that none of the methods are wrong. Both are Sunnah.
Sadiyah
February 12, 2006, 5:14am
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:k:
Lajawab
February 12, 2006, 5:31am
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So what is the more stronger Dalil...
Do we raise our hands like in supplication or do we raise them like in the Takbeer-e-tehreema?
AQ
February 12, 2006, 5:40am
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bhai jaan! Rasoolulah :saw: did it both ways… what daleel are you looking for?
Lajawab
February 12, 2006, 5:42am
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Bhai sahab…The stronger one…
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mein deti hoon zor daar chaanta gaal pe raseeding
lo apni daleel aur ghar jaa ke ansu poncho
Lajawab
February 12, 2006, 5:47am
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Haan…This daleel is really authentic…
AQ
February 12, 2006, 5:48am
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Any and all actions of Rasoolulah:saw: were stronger to say the least. I dunno what do you mean by Stronger in any sense.
Lajawab
February 12, 2006, 5:53am
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Something which is mentioned more often and has more reputable and verifiable Dalaails…
I’d get back to this thread in a couple of days with the solid info, :insha:…
AQ
February 12, 2006, 5:55am
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OK... So if you get a daleel, you mean to say billions of muslims thus far got it wrong if they were doing it other way???
Lajawab
February 12, 2006, 5:57am
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Nahin yaar…
I just like to follow the stronger Dalaail…
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^ Lajawab has a point.
Ive learned Hanafis do have the stronger daleel. I'll get back to you soon inshAllah.
But both are correct.