Dua - Tumhare haan , Hamaare haan

[muqawwee123]

I was having chit chat with a cousin and issue was latest occasion of Qurbani. Who has bought what and where they have placed their animals.

Ammi told that Dada has ordered that don’t take meat from newly converted to ahl e Tashee She told that a Shah lady, who came to visit our phuppi’s house recently said ’ If you people are Wahabi, I’ll not have food in your house’. Phuppi handled the situation by saying ’ We are Sunnis.. Not Wahabis’.

This Wahabi tagline was resounded when our Dadi passed away and we didn’t feed Mulla log with meetha for 10 Jumaraats and didn’t do any Chaleeswan daawat. All due to Dada’s orders :k:

While having these conversation, it was asr time, I asked Cousin where he goes for namaz. He said Peer sahib wali masjid. I normally go to Devbandi masjid, which is at equal distance from our home to that of Peer sahib wali masjid. I do go to pray in peer sahib wali masjid as I don’t have issues with maslak, etc and there are some childhood memories with that masjid and mazar as well. So, I asked cousin lets go to peer sahib wali masjid today.

At the end of the namaz, they started reading ‘La ilaha Illalaah’ in course, which is not a common practice in Devbandi masajid. Though, I’m not used to it, as in Karachi, most of the masjids don’t have this practice, but I thought Allah ka naam hai so I also started reading this , as I have been doing in past. Then came dua stage. After dua, they touched their hands with face (sign of end of dua) and I was standing to find everyone was sitting. This reminded me something, but before I could find out, my chacha said in my ear ‘yahan teen duaen hoti hain’. After third dua, my chacha said loudly (that could have been heard by two rows at least) ‘Hamare haan teen duaen hoti hain… tumhare haan ki tarah ek nahin’

That was quite awkward, but I replied in same tone ‘hamare haan ki ik hi bohut hai’

So, leaving aside this ‘hamare haan, tumhare haan’, I was thinking where this practice came from? Is it a Sufi tradition which is followed by Barelvi school of thought? or its just an area specific (rural Sindh) thing?

Any thoughts and experience for three duas?

[KKF]

Re: Dua - Tumhare haan , Hamaare haan

innovations, innovations and innovations...i would never go to any Masjid that has different ways/traditions which i have either to follow or pick a fight or be commented upon my ways/tradition. i would rather not compromise.

[muqawwee123]

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@hareem01 @psyah

Can you identify the Sufi order with this practice?

[muqawwee123]

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innovations, innovations and innovations...i would never go to any Masjid that has different ways/traditions which i have either to follow or pick a fight or be commented upon my ways/tradition. i would rather not compromise.

I would love to go at such places to know about others. This was first instance, when I replied and that was to my own chacha (who is very frank person). I normally, don't respond to things like 'shalwar zur ooper karo', 'sir pe topi kiyun nahin' things.

[KKF]

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I would love to go at such places to know about others. This was first instance, when I replied and that was to my own chacha (who is very frank person). I normally, don't respond to things like 'shalwar zur ooper karo', 'sir pe topi kiyun nahin' things.

achchhaa jii ...

...vaise, du'aa infiraadii 'amal hai...ijtimaa'ii nahiiN...yahaN North American masaajid meN [unlike in our cuntries] namaaz ke ba'd imaam uTh jaataa hai aur log apni apni alaihda du'aa maangte haiN...sirf jum'a ke din ijtimaa'ii du'aa hotii hai kiuN k jum'a kii apnii ek alag maqsad hai...ya'nii ijtimaa'-e-maqaamii Hazraat.

[muqawwee123]

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Normally, in Karachi, i also leave after farz namaz (salam) and don't participate in dua. There is another theory which says 'Namaz itself is a dua'.

[hareem01]

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@muqawwee123

@hareem01 @psyah

Can you identify the Sufi order with this practice?

Don’t know that but du’a mangnay main kya harj hai? Jitni marzi du’a maangain.

[muqawwee123]

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@hareem01

Don’t know that but du’a mangnay main kya harj hai? Jitni marzi du’a maangain.

No harj. I was just confused with three layers. Today, I got chance to offer maghrib there and they did one round of dua

[mahool]

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I think three duwas are only tradtion in Pir Sb Masjid... I did not see three duwas in brelvi mosques in Karachi and other place outside Pakistan...

BTW... If Dada was Deobandi.. How did chacha become Brelvi?

[muqawwee123]

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I think three duwas are only tradtion in Pir Sb Masjid... I did not see three duwas in brelvi mosques in Karachi and other place outside Pakistan...

BTW... If Dada was Deobandi.. How did chacha become Brelvi?

Dada didn't put any religious restriction on his children. Dadi was Barelvi follower and used to viist mazar and did Giyarhween Shareef. That generation had lot of tolerance in religious matters unlike today's generation which only knows 'my way or highway'.

[KKF]

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[quote=“muqawwee123, post:658, topic:324728”]

Dada didn’t put any religious restriction on his children. Dadi was Barelvi follower and used to viist mazar and did Giyarhween Shareef. That generation had lot of tolerance in religious matters unlike today’s generation which only knows ‘my way or highway’./QUOTE]lolz…it should rather be:

“the RIGHT way or the WRONG way!”

[muqawwee123]

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@KKF

Dada didn’t put any religious restriction on his children. Dadi was Barelvi follower and used to viist mazar and did Giyarhween Shareef. That generation had lot of tolerance in religious matters unlike today’s generation which only knows ‘my way or highway’./QUOTE]lolz…it should rather be:

“the RIGHT way or the WRONG way!”

This is what the actual ‘Intolerance’. My way is always right way.. Your way is always wrong way.

[KKF]

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This is what the actual 'Intolerance'. My way is always right way.. Your way is always wrong way.

yeh to bas ek reminder hai...asl sawaal jawaab to Allah ke Huzoor hogaa...is baat ko le kar laRaaii jhagRaa, maar peeT, qatl o Ghaarat garii karnaa to sire se hii Khilaaf-e-ta'leemaat-e-Islamii hai. jo aisaa kare vo yaqeenan gunehgaar Thahre.

saHeeH baat bataa denaa ham sab par farz hai baaqii uskii marzii taa k Allah ke Huzoor hujjat tamaam ho jaave.

[muqawwee123]

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I think three duwas are only tradtion in Pir Sb Masjid... I did not see three duwas in brelvi mosques in Karachi and other place outside Pakistan...

BTW... If Dada was Deobandi.. How did chacha become Brelvi?

Interesting to note that the division of Deobandi / Barelvi in our area was witnessed by my Dada. He has witnessed the parting ways of two molvis of same masjid on issue of 'Nabi Noor hai ya Bashar hai' and that was last years of British rule in India.

One of mazar near our home relates to a Pir from naqshbandi order and that pir was alive in our childhood. We don't have his memories, but Dadi told that 'iske qabze main jinnat the'. She was, howver, skeptical of his acts and probably thought that greed element was involved in his peeri/ mureedi. Interestingly, during our visit to Islamabad, we met family friends (my phuppa's relatives from Balakot) and there an elderly lady was mureed of this Naqshbandi pir from a remote area of rural Sindh. This pir got huge following in KPK's area and there are local followers as well, but somehow my Dadi never liked that Pir.

[Tahurra]

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Dada didn't put any religious restriction on his children. Dadi was Barelvi follower and used to viist mazar and did Giyarhween Shareef. That generation had lot of tolerance in religious matters unlike today's generation which only knows 'my way or highway'.

ap ky dada samjhty hongay kay deen amal karny se pehlta hy, tanqeed karny se nahi, ikhtelaf ki bunyad per kisi ko musalman kafir kehdena apni apni masjadein.alag kardeina, aisa tu kuch bhi deen mein nahi.