Drugs...tell me something about them

What are the tell tale signs of someone being on drugs?

If any of you guys have ever been involved in drugs i would HUGELY HUGELY appreciate your thoughts and feelings on the topic - pm me if you must and i promise it will remian confidential :slight_smile:

Thank you in advance…

It really depends what drugs the person is on .... Do you think they've just been burning the weed or is it something harder?

There're quite a few tell tale signs e.g. mood swings, selling personal possessions, stoned eyes - and then there's the physical evidence - have you seen tin foil/sterile wipes/spoons etc lying around? Even if you have, you should always remain wary and not jump to conclusions as alot of these signs are evident in ALL teenagers (presuming that the person you're talking about is a teen).

Really need more detail before I could tell you anything else.

Well my sweetpea of a brother hangs around with soon-to-be convicted drug dealers and the other day he went off on a rant saying he's going to kill me, stab the family, and god knows what other awful thing..

I told him he need HELP, n said psychopath to him and he was like I'm ****ED UP and what you going to do...

AND AND.. he said i deal crack cocaine, and if you don't give me money i'll go rob someone, doesn't take much to smash an iron bar accross a persons face and blah blah...

AND AND AND...he said he TOO was arrested for drugs and that his friend got him out on bail, how much is true i don't know. How much are lies i don't know...

And he was bleating on and on and on...

I can smell smoke from him sometimes, he NEVER EVER talks at home, comes home at 1am in the morning goes bed, gets up at 12 and hes out...

Sounds like a typical teenager to me - desperately trying to fit in with the 'in' crowd, looking for attention off his family etc etc .... I remember my brothers used to be the same - always threatening to kill the family over silly little things, such as what to watch on the telly. They soon grew out of it. In all honesty, I don't think he's doing drugs YET. And even if he is doing them, I'm fairly sure he's at the very early stages so it'd be a whole lot easier to get him off 'em. Either way, you should be concerned. Keep a very very very close eye on him and do whatever you possibly can to stop him hanging out with these 'mates'. You've GOT TO get your parents to put their foot down.

I feel for you girl.

SS - Sisooo thanks :)

I told a friend of mine and she was in SHOCK because it was so stirkingly familiar to what her brother did/does and he IS on drugs. And the fact that my bro is CLAIMING he DOES do all this was gnawing away at me too..

I do try to keep a tab on him but you know how it is, i'm trundle of to uni and have to commute, by the time i get home its evening and hes never home...

Mum is mum - she cries and gives him a rollocking but that doesn't work. Dad is dad - me and my other bros n sis **** it of him grin but my little bro did the unbelieveable and stood upto him and we were all taken aback so now even Dads authority doesn't seem to have the same impact it used to..

It's all messed up really. And when it's happening it's REALLY hard to figure out JUST where to start dealing with it all from...

hmm...DD...why don;t u take your brother down to a rehabilitation centre....and show him some real life drug addicts?...tht should knock some sense into him....good luck

bring him to me

i'll sort him out

cooldude ~ he’d have to LISTEN to me for me to be able to do that, he’d probably punch me :crying:

eemo ~ address? n time :slight_smile:

OK I know this might sound rough coming from a stranger - but he needs something bad to happen to him in order for him to change - he needs to witness how drugs wreck lives and how being in with the crowd isn't all that. He's at that age where using drugs (and even being hooked on them), mugging people, stabbing people etc is all glorified. Maybe you've done all you can as a family, and now you need to sit back and be there for him when he falls (which he most definitely will).

SS ~ Thats what i believe, but it seems wrong to give up yet there is nothing more we can do.

He will learn the HARD way and i know that, i just wish there was something i could do to prevent that but i guess i am helpless...

put him in some boarding school ... ??

I never said you should give up on him. Giving up would mean washing your hands of him - throwing him out onto the streets. What I'm asking you to do is a whole lot harder. As a family, I think you guys have just about done all you can (besides packing him off to Pakistan and getting him married off - but I wouldn't recommend that :) )

OK, I've got a couple of things you could try here - but be warned I'm still a trainee myself so it's probably best to get professional help. Also, it's really hard to describe what to do over the net - have u got a mobile? PM me ur number and I'll try calling you (as long as your on orange :) ) - it'd make life a whole lot simpler. Also, I don't really know enough about your brother. I need to know if he's definitely using, how old he is etc.

What I want you to do is a mix between motivational interviewing and task centred practice. What you need to do is take him out somewhere - away from any interruptions and try listening to him rather than talking to him. Telling him to change won't make any difference - he's probably at the stage where he's fed up of being told how the company he keeps and the things he does are so wrong. What you need to do is strike up a conversation and LISTEN to what he has to say. Try signposting and ask him about why he does the things he does - how he feels once he's committed a crime etc. Whenever he makes a comment about how drugs/the company he keeps have had an adverse effect on his life, really pick up on this - ask him how he felt etc. Also, ask him about happier times in his life - what made him happy at those times. And that's about it - an extremely condensed form of MI. I know it might be tempting for you to talk but the key here is for you to talk as little as possible - even if there're loads of awkward silences - treat these as his thinking space.

I know I'm asking allot of you - especially as you've not actually had any professional training - and in all honesty, I'm not even sure if it'll work (as he might not want to open up 2 you cuz ur his sister). Remember, you're not there to tell him what to do - you're there to help him contemplate how these positive changes would benefit him. It might sound extremely hippyfied and stuff but I've witnessed it work - it's amazing when done properly. The only negative side to it is that the person must have a desire to change - otherwise they'll never admit to having a problem in the first place.

Lemme know if you need ANY help.

I had thought Sobi was a cocaine addict herself but good to read that she is advising against it. Its good to see a supplier changing to a preacher…

I have got a couple of questions before I suggest anything
Ducky, how old is your brother? Why do You think he is doing drugs? For how long has he been acting ā€˜weird’? What measures have you taken so far? Why do you think you and your family have failed to get him on the right track?

Ok enough questions for now…I’m glad that you are trying to help him out. Hang in there…I’m sure he will be thankful to you for not giving up on him unlike what Sobi suggested and I quote

ā€œ ** you need to sit back and be there for him when he falls (which he most definitely will) **ā€ :hoonh: :wink:

Boss, there’s more money in social work than there is in dealing :slight_smile: I can still get my hands on the gear if you need me to :slight_smile:

Anyway, I still stand by what I said. I’ve worked with/seen enough druggies in my life to know that they won’t change unless they’re ready to. It seems fairly obvious that Ducky and her family have tried talking to him, but he’s not ready to listen. They just need to give it time. And the ā€˜falling’ bit is inevitable with all drug users.

I never actually said that she should give up on him. What I said was, and I quote:

… Giving up would mean washing your hands of him - throwing him out onto the streets. What I’m asking you to do is a whole lot harder. As a family, I think you guys have just about done all you can …