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The gangs in Pakistan are fairly different from the gangs of NYC. Gangs in North America have very morbid traditions, and you DO get killed/family gets killed if you try to leave. They'll just make it look like an accident.
The gangs in Pakistan are fairly different from the gangs of NYC. Gangs in North America have very morbid traditions, and you DO get killed/family gets killed if you try to leave. They'll just make it look like an accident.
gangs in NYC? that's a new one.
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Not all kids in the UK/US are like this. Those that are however, deserve a good slap!
The answer isn't to send the wayward child to Pakistan - as one poster suggested. Believe it or not, drugs, alcohol and violence is all but apparent in Pakistan also.
To the OP - I hope things improve soon. You will be in my prayers.
Market forces should not be an excuse for animal like actions. Individuals make decisions to act like animals.
lol, blaming economics haha.
lol blaming culture, how basic can you get?
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How is sending him to Pakistan a solution? All sorts of crap goes on there too.
Don't give up on him. He needs a lot of love and support. Perhaps he can go into some sort of counselling or group that deals with this kind of thing. There are Anti-Gang support groups out there run by people who used to members of gangs. Maybe they will be able to get through to him since they lived the lifestyle and are familiar with it?? Perhaps you can contact a gang intervention group and ask them for advice? You should search online for support groups in your State. I just googled it out of interest and there are definitely support groups out there. I hope he gets through this.
Dear God, This child might be the Anit-Christ. At 16 hes able to do all this what would happen at age 30? May God save him.
Possibly. Hope he hasnt a third eye somwhre
(waisey sincerely sorry bout other thread earlier bro i misunderstud your meaning) :thumbs up:
I'm so sorry to hear about your situation.
I read your story and it reminded me of something. A few years back, when I graduated from college, a bunch of my friends signed up with temping agencies to find work. One of my friends got assigned to this school for troubled kids (juvenile offenders, gang members, kids who were into drugs and alcohol, etc.). It was a boarding school set in an isolated wooded area in the state complete with horses, cows and other farm animals. There were licensed mental health professionals, doctors, social workers, etc. there who were trained to work with kids to help them clean up their acts and get out of their individual bad situations. From what my friend described during his time there, they had a pretty decent success rate.
I don't know where your cousin lives, but perhaps this may be one option for him? There could be schools or similar programs in your state or a neighboring state that would be willing to accept him.
Just a thought. Good luck.
My brother who was the apple of everyones eye turned out very similar to your cousin, we just could not figure out where we went wrong. Everything you mentioned he was into, stealing, drugs, drinks, fights, arrested several times, cautioned etc etc.
We did everything we could, sent him to college (that didnt last long) got sacked for being constantly late, (his work was 5mins walk from home), off he was sent to Pakistan, got caught by the police for having cannibis on him while he was there (paid them off) anyway although he was in Pak for about 2 years he was still immature when he returned.
Not quite sure when it turned for him, but thank GOD he turned a leaf, started working, in fact started to do well at his job, got his driving licence, started driving (legally, once all his points had finished)
Hes also started doing namaz. I think someone mentioned before mothers duas are very powerful, and this is test, keep praying for him and continue to support him, he will InshaAllah come back.
You will all be in my prayers, this is a very tough and painful time for the whole family.
tbqh, If he is making money of selling drugs then good on him. As long as he isnt consuming then we should all be happy. There is a demand for a product in the market and he provides a service to the community. Good on him.
tbqh, If he is making money of selling drugs then good on him. As long as he isnt consuming then we should all be happy. There is a demand for a product in the market and he provides a service to the community. Good on him.
Yes and pimps are also a blessing.
Yes and pimps are also a blessing.
well, whats wrong with the sale of labor?
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Don't blame the pimps, as long as there is demand there will be supply. Somebody has to take care of the world's married population.
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please guys don't turn this into a joke thread. it's a serious problem. thanks
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i think it's wrong to continually use "black people" as a way to associate him to the "gang" scene. this is how streotypes and racism are perpetuated...
^ So true. The first gang that started in Chicago back in the early 80s had nothing to do with African Americans & I am sure many people when think of Chicago gangs always get an African American image in mind.
To the OP. I hope they find the kid & he someday somehow turns around InshaAllah & hope Allah helps his family to go through all this with less pain as possible.
No offence intended but the parents are to be blamed for this. I have seen it through my own eyes when fathers are too busy working extra hours just so they can provide "everything" to their kids & with moms it comes down to understanding the language where the kids are growing up. Most mothers can understand or speak English properly but they still wouldn't know all the urban terms of gangs/drugs & other considerably bad things. Most parents think that their family is fine being religious & cultural & assume that kids will automatically follow their path.
We don't pay attention to kids when they are a tender age & really learning things & then when they enter their teenage years the real trouble begins. That's when we try to instill good moral values in them & by then its too late.
As far as the cousin not telling anyone part is concerned. I think she did what most of us might have done. She warned the family but didn't say much because maybe she thought about how it might actually come against her as in "oh why is she talking about our kid like that. Just because he has done some bad things doesn't mean he will do other bad things too." I have seen that happening with my own eyes.
For some reason we love our siblings & kids so much that no matter what bad things they do we always pray to Allah that things would turn around & also believe in ourself that since he/she is part of our family he is not as bad or is not capable of doing that much damage.
My thoughts & prayers are with the family & I think would be parents or parents who have really young kids should learn something from this.
Living in Western countries its not just about teaching our kids about Islam or about our Pakistani roots. Its also about bridging the gap a kid might feel when going out to school or hanging out with neighbors.
hmmm…i think you are mixing karachi with chicago. whereas chicago on the other hand has a long history of gangs, guns and voilence.
even in 1920s and 1930s chicago had don like Al Capone 
Lol. I am not talking about Italian Mafia here.
I am talking about gangs that have more to do with me not being a Hispanic or African American or Assyrian or even an African American Muslim in some cases & going in the wrong block at the wrong time & getting killed just because of my race. Just to join these gangs you have to take hard core beating to prove you can be a part of it. Girls who wanna be a part of this have to go through being raped by senior gang bangers just so they can prove they are worthy of being in the brotherhood. You start with selling weeds & sometimes shattering windows of stores that are not owned by the same race people & then you end up killing people. I can go & on but I'll stop.
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you guys must be going through such a horrible time. i hope that kid sees sense and is able to change for good!