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Senseless killing…will never solve the prob
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What a shameful act. So many innocent people died again including women and children.
I am just wondering if USA even care and do they even try to verify their target. Why cant they be extra careful in selecting the targets.
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Women and children died? Do you have a link Decent
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While these GHERATMAND discussing Davis(who only killed 2), 40+precious live lost du to Drone madness, and our media still mentioning them 40 terrorist killed...shame on All Who facilitae and operate
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They were Tribal elder, dont be so stone heart
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Here you go 
RAWALPINDI: Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani strongly condemned the predator strike carried out on Thursday in North Waziristan Agency resulting in loss of innocent lives.
He said it is highly regrettable that a jirga of peaceful citizens including elders of the area was carelessly and callously targeted with complete disregard to human life, said a ISPR press release issued here.
“In complete violation of human rights, such acts of violence take us away from our objective of elimination of terrorism. It is imperative to understand that this critical objective cannot be sacrificed for temporary tactical gains. Security of people of Pakistan, in any case, stands above all," he added.
COAS said “Pakistan Army condoles with the families whose dear and near ones have been martyred in this senseless attack. Pakistan Army shares the grief of people of Waziristan. Troops on ground have been ordered to render all possible assistance to bereaved families.”
“Pakistan Army wishes to assure brave people of Waziristan that we shall do our best and utmost to protect their life, honour and dignity at all costs. Pakistan Army is fighting the terrorists and not its brethren in tribal areas.” Gen Kayani added
The COAS said that Pakistan Army has already launched a protest in the strongest possible terms, adding that it has been highlighted clearly that such aggression against people of Pakistan is unjustified and intolerable under any circumstances.
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"a lot" being the operational word here.
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They were Tribal elder, dont be so stone heart
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^ thanks. from there:
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One missile was fired at a car carrying suspected militants. Local tribesmen say the drones then fired another three missiles at their meeting, or jirga.
Our correspondent says the vehicle was moving close to the site where the jirga was being held in the open. The missiles hit the vehicle as well as the jirga.
According to the tribesmen, they meeting was being held to discuss a local land dispute over the ownership of chromite deposits in the area. They say that no militants were present at the time.
Officials said the drones were targeting militants linked to Taliban commander Hafiz Gul Bahadur. One of his commanders, identified as Sharabat Khan, was in the vehicle hit in the attack and was killed, one local official told the BBC.
But most of the dead were tribal people - elders, local traders and members of the tribal police.
The official said 15 bodies had been found intact and identified by local people before being buried. Some of the dead were carried across the border into Afghanistan from where they had come.
Other bodies were blown to pieces, making a body count difficult to determine. There is no way of independently confirming casualty details as the media is denied access to the area.
It is the second drone strike in the area in as many days. On Wednesday a missile strike killed five suspected militants in Datta Khel.
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So early reports were wrong. The justified kill of the TTP militant was a separate hit. This is criminally stupid.
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Seriously the pak army should retaliate and kill 40 US military and say oops it was an accident, teach the yanks a lesson.
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**Hafiz Gul Bahadur is a leader of a TTP faction. **Good riddance if its his crew thats been targeted.
Hafiz gul bahadur and maulvi nazir are pro-pakistan and anti-america
Hakeemullah mehsud and his company are anti-pakistan and pro-america
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Hafiz gul bahadur and maulvi nazir are pro-pakistan and anti-america
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Lets not get carried away. These guys have opened their guns on Pakistan but have figured that they can't survive a pakistani flush and US hammer on the other side with drones droning away above their heads, hence they have tactically decided to hold back.
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well but the thing remains that either our ISI provides them intelligence or they are cool with all this therefore they shouldnt do this dramay baazi now…
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Its high time that our military develop the guts to own up the drone attacks (even the botched ones), because either they are providing surveillance for them or the cia is identifying the targets and they cant stop them, in both cases it is the responsibility of the military to protect its people but if they cant do that they should shut up and not cause confusions in the mind of people as to where they stand in this matter.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/18/world/asia/18pakistan.html?_r=1
C.I.A. Drones Kill Civilians in Pakistan
By SALMAN MASOOD and PIR ZUBAIR SHAH
Published: March 17, 2011
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Several missiles fired from American drone aircraft on Thursday struck a meeting of local people in northwest Pakistan who had gathered with Taliban mediators to settle a dispute over a chromite mine. The attack, a Pakistani intelligence official said, killed 26 of 32 people present, some of them Taliban fighters, but the majority elders and local people not attached to the militants.
The civilian death toll appeared to be among the worst in the scores of strikes carried out recently in Pakistan’s tribal areas by the C.I.A., which runs the drones. Local residents and media reports said as many as 40 people had been killed in all, though the intelligence official disputed that.
**The Pakistani military chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, issued an unusual and unusually strong condemnation of the attack. “It is highly regrettable that a jirga of peaceful citizens, including elders of the area, was carelessly and callously targeted with complete disregard to human life,” the statement said.
But American officials on Thursday sharply disputed Pakistan’s account of the strikes and the civilian deaths, contending that all the people killed were insurgents. “These people weren’t gathering for a bake sale,” an American official said. “They were terrorists.”
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About four missiles fired from one or more drones hit the meeting, known as a jirga, of two tribes and Taliban mediators who had gathered on open ground at a market in Datta Khel, in North Waziristan, according to two residents who live nearby in Miram Shah.
The intelligence official said that of the 32 people at the meeting, 13 were Taliban fighters, 11 of whom were killed. The rest of the dead were elders and tribesmen.
“The Taliban will never gather in such a large number in broad daylight to be targeted by the drones,” according to a resident who did not want to be identified for fear of running afoul of the militants. “It has been a big mistake to target the jirga, as it will have severe consequences.”
Recently discovered chromite mines are common in the area. To keep the mines running profitably, the Taliban — as the reigning authorities in the area — often settle disputes between tribes with competing claims and levy taxes on exports and the mine operators.
The drone strikes on Thursday were the second such barrage in two days in Datta Khel, and the sixth in the tribal areas in the past week, according to The Long War Journal, a Web site that monitors the wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
After a pause in drone attacks from Jan. 23 to Feb. 20, the pace of attacks has picked up again this month.
Some analysts attributed the lull to the C.I.A.’s not wanting to upset negotiations to free Raymond A. Davis, the C.I.A. security officer who was released on Wednesday. But American intelligence officials denied that and attributed the pause in part to poor weather.
The region is under the sway of a local warlord and Taliban commander, Hafiz Gul Bahadur, who made a truce with the government as the Pakistani military pushed into South Waziristan in 2009.
But Mr. Bahadur has accepted many Taliban fighters who fled the campaign into his area, and he continues to have close ties to the Haqqani network, a militant group allied with the government and the Taliban that uses North Waziristan as its main base to launch attacks against American forces in Afghanistan.
Attacks by the American drones are immensely unpopular in Pakistan and have been a rallying point for anti-American sentiment, though in recent years they have provoked less outrage in the tribal areas, as the strikes have focused increasingly on foreign fighters loyal to Al Qaeda who have infiltrated the area, and as fewer civilians have been killed by them.
The attack on Thursday, however, threatened to turn opinion in the region against the attacks once again.
One resident said that given the large Taliban presence, average people and the militants were difficult to distinguish in the area, but that to target a jirga would lead to a backlash. “It will create resentment among the locals,” he said, “and everyone might turn into suicide bombers.”
Salman Masood reported from Islamabad, and Pir Zubair Shah from New York. Eric Schmitt contributed reporting from Washington.
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well thats the first gift of US to pakistan after the handing over of raymond davis to tell pakistan that, yes we are terrorist and idiots and we will still keep on going with our evil and stupid bul**** goals. raymond davis must have had shot down immediatly as he walked out of the court and must be sent to hell so that idiot may feel the pain of terrorism. AMERICA THE BIGGEST TERRORIST IN THE WORLD. but the time hasd come to deal with US with the language of atomic bombs.
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the problem is that the army and our government has shown to the world their weakness in the way they handled the whole davis affair, they couldnt keep one spy in jail who was responsible for chaos in the country, and they want us to believe that they will confront the americans militarily. :D its about time that the army stops playing games with the people and deal with us transparently, enough is enough the davis issue has exposed all the stake holders and where their loyalties lie. This definitely isnt the last drone, we will keep facing them for i dont know how many years, i hope a few of them misfire on our politicians and army so they can also taste what hell they are subjecting their people to for the past many years and they are indifferent to all that.
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strongly agreed :)
the problem is that the army and our government has shown to the world their weakness in the way they handled the whole davis affair, they couldnt keep one spy in jail who was responsible for chaos in the country, and they want us to believe that they will confront the americans militarily. :D its about time that the army stops playing games with the people and deal with us transparently, enough is enough the davis issue has exposed all the stake holders and where their loyalties lie. This definitely isnt the last drone, we will keep facing them for i dont know how many years, i hope a few of them misfire on our politicians and army so they can also taste what hell they are subjecting their people to for the past many years and they are indifferent to all that.