Drone attacks just and legal: White House

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Shame on all the Pakistanis here who fall all over each other in defending this murderous US policy.
Learn something from a true American patriot herself.

[She spoke out on behalf of you cowards. :cadet:]

A frail woman but braver than a hunky man.

You go gurl ! :clap: :lifey: :clap:

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No, not really, but I support elimination of jihadi terrorists. And when did Arabs, Uzbeks, Chechen & Afghans became Pakistanis?

Btw, if these people really want to fight they should go back and fight their own corrupt govts.

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If my relatives were involved in terrorism I'd have no sympathy for them either.

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What if they just happen to live in the area?

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As if the drone has the capability of killing only the "bad" guys whereas for good guys, it becomes a bed of roses.

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This is the woman who was thrown out from Brennan's press conference regarding drones today:

@medeabenjami

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What if there was a terrorist and a dumb one at that and his family lived with him,
and a drone blew his 3-year old daughter up to smithereens along with him and the rest of his family.

What would it be from the point of view of the ‘terrorist’s daughter’ ?

Would it be [the obscenely-termed] collateral damage or cold-blooded wanton murder of a child ?

Or would you say, as [honourable-NOT] Ms. Albright said about the half million dead Iraqi children because of US sanctions, “the price is worth it !”.

The terrorists’ sins are acknowledged, but the mahaan imperial power’s heinous and multi-fold crimes are not.
They are somehow glorified under the cover of ‘war on terror’.

They are brushed aside by intellectual bankrupts as “What do you expect ? This is war and sh*t happens in war”. Go figure.

Albright reference:

http://blogs.denverpost.com/eletters/2012/04/21/question-madeleine-albright-iraqi-children/17519/

Posted April 21, 2012, 5:01 pm MT
**Question for Madeleine Albright: What about Iraqi children?
By DP Opinion **
Re: “Pinning down Madeleine Albright; Brooches at DAM give insight to her political moods,” April 15 Arts & Culture story.
So, Madeleine Albright wore a bluebird pin with a bluebird flying downward in sorrow after a plane carrying civilians was shot down by Cubans in 1996. That’s so sensitive and thoughtful of her. Which pin did she wear to mourn the half-million children who died in Iraq as a direct result of U.S.-imposed sanctions during her tenure as secretary of state?
On “60 Minutes,” in May 1996, when Lesley Stahl interviewed Albright, Stahl stated with reference to the sanctions in Iraq: “We have heard that a half-million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?” Albright replied: “I think this is a very hard choice, but the price — we think the price is worth it.” Does she have a pin for each of those children?
Rashna B. Singh, *Colorado Springs *
*This letter was published in the April 22 edition. *

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For them everything is legal :mad:

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What-if scenarios go both ways. What if terrorists did not attack the US on 9/11? What if Saddam Hussian did not invade Kuwait? What if Taliban just handed over Osama to face justice? What if ISI/PA wasn't playing double game?

Again, its war...war that was started by jihadi terrorists. So, cry me a river.

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Actually, from what I have read, drones are fairly accurate & they don’t just go and attack any place for no reason at all. They’re usually watching what is going on the ground before taking out the target & vast majority of those killed are in fact militants. That is not to say there is no collateral damage, but drones are accurate to large degree in taking out terrorists.

ISLAMABAD – Pakistani factions are leading citizens to inaccurately believe American drone strikes within the country are killing more civilians than militants, according to an on-the-ground Associated Press investigation.

Pakistani right-wing political groups, clerics, and militants themselves have fueled the perception that drone attacks usually kill more civilians than fighters.

AP reporters spoke to about 80 villagers at sites in North Waziristan, a sanctuary for militants and the location of 10 recent attacks. The villagers told a reporter that of 194 casualties, at least 138 were militants.

While the villagers reported that 70 percent of casualties have been militants, the widespread perception of civilian deaths have fueled anti-American sentiment.

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Take it easy you two. Shamaraz has a point there. He is mot justifying killing of innocents, but dont you admit that northern regions of Pakistan are sanctuary to all the bad elements. And Pakistan govt alone would've have done a squat. I am not supporting drone attacks, but someone had to take the bad elements out. Its unfportunate that its happening this way, but blame goes to our own spineless govt.

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Well there is no proper documentation of the drone victims which fuels speculations, when ever a drone attack takes place we see tickers flashing on our tv screens 5 militants killed. Hardly ever do we come to know about their identities, if the government/military can establish within minutes that militants were killed how come they couldnt tell us accurately the identities of the people killed and the proportion of innocents versus militants?

If it is so effective why has the government not try to properly market it and own it and remove people’s confusion regarding them?

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Did it ever occur to you, that why didn't Pakistan NEVER see any suicide attacks or other crap from "that bad neighborhood aka northern region" before the US invaded Afghanistan? I think it is pretty evident that uncle Sam has a huge role in keeping that region unstable, for a number of reasons.

And please, I hope I won't get the "the bad guys and bad stuff had been brewing there for the last 30 years and now it has erupted" line of logic.

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This is valid and logical. Not everything Uncle Sam says is holy and something to have faith on it.

Drones are inflicting more harm than any good.

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Ok, daddy. :)

[We always knew that Khan was your favourite son. j/k :)]

He may not be justifying the killing of innocents but he is not condemning it either.

Whereas on the other hand, everybody, including me, have and do condemn killing done by the terrorists.

Besides, are we to judge the actions of the all-powerful, champion of the human rights by the standards set by the evil terrorists ? Pathetic !

Also, how many times over and for how long will the 9/11 attacks be avenged. Till the 2nd coming of Messiah ?

And after sucking the American taxpayers dry for the last 10 years, tanking the economy and usurping their civil liberties,
why are Americans still not safe and terrorism has still not subsided ?

All important questions that should be addressed honestly.

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Its because Afghanis were still in Afghanistan and not in Pakistan.

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ummm. Yes they were in Pakistan too. So many refugees came to Karachi and settled there during Afghan-Russia war. The pashtoon belt in KPK (NWFP) has families divided across the borders and travel from one side to the other has been a usual routine. There was no "real" checkpost at that border. In fact, there were no Pakistani military presence in that side of border until war on terror started.

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Legal or not, drones are a great tool. Keep it up Uncle Sam.
Pound them from up and down.. and left and right.

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I say bomb the whole damn country including Faisalabad while you are at it and claim it collateral damage.

--- Self-hating Pakistani

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Actually in Faisalabad, IB/ISI did a great job by cleaning the shyt holes (madrisasas) in early 2006. Pretty much cleared now, trust me i am from there.
Faisalabad master plan is designed in such a way, that it's easy to control whatever comes in or goes out.

Better spend your energies on gay areas like FATA.