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*Originally posted by ahmadarsalan: *
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Originally posted by teaser:
Imagine if it was allowed people would have taken pics of Prophets and started praying in front of those pics
Thats whay Holy Prophet requested ppl not to make his potriat quote:
Originally posted by Matsui:
Message: Do not idolize people and things as you would god.
Misinterpreted scripture: Drawing and sketching is haraam. Because apparently anytime you draw someone's fa e, you will automatically worship them.
Oh plz ......for heavans sake we muslims have enough faith not to do this sort of thing at leat me BTW who is this saying by any way and plz explain how can u '' automaticly'' worship any one with out your own will
Book 32, Number 4144:
rvikz
Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) ordered Umar ibn al-Khattab who was in al-Batha' at the time of the conquest (of Makkah) to visit the Ka'bah and obliterate all images in it. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) did not enter it until all the images were obliterated.[Sunan Abu Dawud]
rvikz yar u tell me what type of images were ther in arabia at tht time mostly idols.
Out of every one here who solely believe tht makeing images is '' Haram'' even when Allah Almightys own nam is Artist how many of u do not watch TV. it is alos a type of making images. ''TV'' I bet no body is in favour of missing the Saturady night movie of Tom Cruse
i dont no i came across this saying once of may b some Angle from Allah Almighty to Holy Prophet PBUH, when one one of his wives complained tht the honey he PBUH eats from some other wives house smells like somw flower or some thing. So holy Prophet PBUH stopped eating tht . So the wahai from Allah came saying tht ,O Mohamd PBUH do not, not do some thing tht u dont like tht is halal so if u dont do it it will b made faraz 4 the other ppl not to do aswell.
To prove thth drawing is ''really'' haram can an body quote from quran any Ayyah saying tht drawing is haram, other than mkaing drawing and praying t them. And saying it can not b kept as a hobby or job...........plz.....:)
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no religen can exist without visible symbols or images and rituals
you cant sterlize the religen too much
to the point of nothingness.
Muhammad incorporated the Kaba's paganistic roots into Islam to give the Muslims a sense of identity, legitimacy, and uniqueness. He also wanted to ease the Arab's strain of moving from paganism to Islam, by continuing the practices of their fathers.
There were 360 idols around the Kaba. The pilgrimages to the Kaba were all pagan pilgrimages, the ritual processions around the Kaba were part of pagan beliefs and custom, the white robes worn by the pilgrims were from pagan faiths, the veneration of the Kaba and black stone are derived from pagan rituals and beliefs. Pagans called out the names of their pagan gods as they circled the Kaba, today, Muslims call out Allah's name. Pagans ran between the nearby hills, Muhammad authorized Muslims to do that in the Quran, and probably ran between the hills himself.
The chief pagan god worshipped there was Hubal, who could be called the god of Mecca and of the Kaba. Hubal is not mentioned in the Quran. The goddesses al-Lat, al-Uzza, and Manat were also worshipped there and are mentioned in the Quran.
It is thought that the Kaba was originally set up for astral worship. Golden suns and moons are repeatedly mentioned as the votive gifts. Some pagans regarded the Kaba as a temple devoted to the sun, moon, and 5 planets.