ای سی پی نے دعویٰ کیا ہے کہ جائزہ رپورٹ اسٹیک ہولڈرز کی جانب سے موصول ہونے والی سفارشات کی سمری ہے۔ ECP ‘disowns’ damning post-election report
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So all second generation burgers are in fact foreigners. Are we going to let them come in and tell us that the elections weren't fair?
I was referring to EU observers, who are minute in numbers, and spend a mere few days/weeks in Pakistan, and pronounce the elections as fair, and folks start quoting them as gospel, while disregarding tons of publicly available evidence.
The most ridiculous aspect is that the whole country is yelling that the elections were rigged (yes, the whole country, including the election commission, Supreme court, PMLN, PPP and all others who are NOT PTI members) yet still we sit here and debate whether the elections were 'rigged' or not, and ask for 'proofs'.
I guess Gullu Butt didnt destroy any cars after all. He got bailed, so there must have been a 'lack of evidence'. Story of Pakistan!
I was referring to EU observers, who are minute in numbers, and spend a mere few days/weeks in Pakistan, and pronounce the elections as fair, and folks start quoting them as gospel, while disregarding tons of publicly available evidence.
The most ridiculous aspect is that the whole country is yelling that the elections were rigged (yes, the whole country, including the election commission, Supreme court, PMLN, PPP and all others who are NOT PTI members) yet still we sit here and debate whether the elections were 'rigged' or not, and ask for 'proofs'.
I guess Gullu Butt didnt destroy any cars after all. He got bailed, so there must have been a 'lack of evidence'. Story of Pakistan!
I believe in evidence not opinions. This has been my case consistently with everything. You guys have provided no direct evidence to support long term rigging.
90% of the people here have no election observing or monitoring experience. They weren't there in Pakistan at that.
And with Gullu Butt there is evidence. Everybody has seen the pictures, the videos it was live on TV. That is evidence that stands up in court.
When we have witnesses, testimonies and the rest for election rigging I will happily believe it. But I care little for the opinion of people who don't know the difference between election observation and election monitoring.
So u didnt see n are still complainning its ok. Its in ur mind no righing i cant do anything.
Like I said look it and as I said to Silaaj. When I see actual evidence I will believe it. Till then its an accusation.
Unlike the Pakistan awaam I want concrete facts before I believe any retarded story that they print in the media. Its been 40 days roughly since I have asked for concrete evidence.
Nobody has put any forward. Your videos are inherently stupid as they provide on accusations and no evidence. The Pakistani media is one based on ratings and not hard facts.
Definition correction..burgers are the supposedly westernized Pakistanis in Pakistan who may or may not have had a stint abroad for education or travel. 2nd gen are foreigners not burgers :-)
That is indeed true and you are correct. However those who are burgers by and large are influenced by western society due to their ability to access it. When older they get their western education and do infact become foreign nationals by either settling down abroad or marrying abroad.
Its usually because those are the ones that can afford to and do assimilate well into foreign society as they are well to do.
Like I said look it and as I said to Silaaj. When I see actual evidence I will believe it. Till then its an accusation.
Unlike the Pakistan awaam I want concrete facts before I believe any retarded story that they print in the media. Its been 40 days roughly since I have asked for concrete evidence.
Nobody has put any forward. Your videos are inherently stupid as they provide on accusations and no evidence. The Pakistani media is one based on ratings and not hard facts.
Are the videos and reports of certain seats opened are not enough. Its in ur mind you are just not able to accept it.
now ECP says that it was not their report it was actually collection of reports from other observers ! LOL
eik sai barh ker eik namona majood hai Pakistan main.
Look at the handout by 'ECP' (read PML(N) )
"Responding to the distorted comments and reports emanating from various quarters since yesterday pertaining to the Post Election Review Report 2013, the Election Commission feels compelled **
*to suggest to all such quarters that it is high time they should switch their focus from witch-hunting mode *
**to truthful analysis based on intellectual honesty and concrete electoral reforms based on sound
knowledge of electoral processes, rather than creating a furor on a daily basis to mislead and confuse **
**the nation. "
Seems to be written by Mushahid Ullah Khan or Pervaiz Rasheed instead of ECP. Lagta hai ECP ki theek thaak class hoie hai report release kerney k baad.
If only deep complexities and flexibilities of legal system could be explained by online dictionary's one liner definition. 95% of lawyers would lose their jobs if the air thin logic of internet sceptics is applied in legal matters. I don't think anyone should bother entertaining someone's perpetual semantic confusion.
Some people need to get off their high horses and stop thinking themselves as the the judge, jury and persecutor. These are the types of people who probably believe legal hearings should be conducted in fish markets so every Tom. Dick and Harry is in a position to give its own verdict.
By certain logic, phone hacking scandal did not take place because recordings of vast majority of phone calls were never made public. Ridiculous isn't it.
PTI, ECP and all parties that have admitted rigging have enough evidence that needs to be further investigated and verified, and a final verdict must come out of proper hearing. This disgustingly rotten and corrupt logic of 'pics or it didn't happen' excuse is one of the reason why countless victims of rape to murder don't get justice.
Further and prolonged investigation is carried by authorities to produce concrete evidence in front the of judge. Not to please the internet trolls. There is absolutely no reason and no requirement why before the hearing, any legal evidence must be made public. Such practice is avoided in the legal world at all cost. But I can understand why Pakistanis cannot seem to comprehend anything other than media trials.
There is indeed overwhelming *circumstantial evidence *(yes it is a legally recognised evidence and has far reaching implications! Dictionary may not be able to give a nice one line definition) which has been pointed out in PTI's white paper report as well ECP's report. It is not PTI's job to go to Ch. Iftikhar's house to search for evidence or confiscate his phone. This is why you have police and investigation bureaus. PTI wants these people to do their job and launch a fair and independent investigation into rigging to strengthen Pakistani democracy and restores voters' trust in the system.
Further and prolonged investigation is carried by authorities to produce concrete evidence in front the of judge. Not to please the internet trolls. There is absolutely no reason and no requirement why before the hearing, any legal evidence must be made public. Such practice is avoided in the legal world at all cost. But I can understand why Pakistanis cannot seem to comprehend anything other than media trials.
IK stated he had it and he would inform all of us. I would recommend you speak to IK about legal precedence. Educate him on the matter as he has been the one saying he has the evidence and you have stated the same.
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There is indeed overwhelming *circumstantial evidence *(yes it is a legally recognised evidence and has far reaching implications! Dictionary may not be able to give a nice one line definition) which has been pointed out in PTI's white paper report as well ECP's report. It is not PTI's job to go to Ch. Iftikhar's house to search for evidence or confiscate his phone. This is why you have police and investigation bureaus. PTI wants these people to do their job and launch a fair and independent investigation into rigging to strengthen Pakistani democracy and restores voters' trust in the system.
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The white paper provides no circumstantial evidence. If so please point it out in the document.
What I love is the fact that everybody seems to have this evidence. But nobody can produce it. The beauty of double speak. Orwell would be proud of you Jolie.
As for PTI wants to do their job then they should have followed Article 225 of the Pakistani constitution.
IK stated he had it and he would inform all of us. I would recommend you speak to IK about legal precedence. Educate him on the matter as he has been the one saying he has the evidence and you have stated the same.
The white paper provides no circumstantial evidence. If so please point it out in the document.
What I love is the fact that everybody seems to have this evidence. But nobody can produce it. The beauty of double speak. Orwell would be proud of you Jolie.
As for PTI wants to do their job then they should have followed Article 225 of the Pakistani constitution.
You do realise how silly you look when you say no one has provided any evidence? People have provided evidence, but it is who is blinded by your political prejudice that you have stubbornly refused to anything. Your acceptance or rejection of evidence makes zero difference. We have probably reached a stage where even if NS himself admits that I did order rigging, you won't believe it.
PTI white paper is full of circumstantial and other forms of evidence. You simply won't accept it.
By the way, an opened and deserted ballot box in the middle of the road would count as evidence of rigging which is exactly what happened in Ahsan Iqbal's constituency. There are videos of those burned and rumpled up ballot papers would count as one of the many forms of evidence.
