look boy dont start with me…i can prove that he is a gustakh aur logo ko gumrah karta hai woh and there was nothing wrong with wat i said and watever i said was the truth…
Re: DR ZAKIR NAIK AT DUBAI AIRPORT EXPO ON 27 & 28th AUGUST
isnt he the guy that said something bad about Imam Hussain ![]()
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Knew i’d find this discussion soon as I clicked on the thread
JOSH MALIHABA’DI —(Shabbir Hasan Khan 1894 - 1982 popularly known as Josh)
Tareekh dey rahi hai yeh awaaz dam ba dam
Dasht-e-sabat-o-Azm hai Dast-e-Bala-o-Gam
Sabr-e-Maseeh wa juraa’t suqrat ki qasam
Is rah mea hai sirf ek insaan ka qadam
Jis kee rago’n mein Aatish-e-Badr-o-Hunain Hai
Us soorma ka isme girami Hussain Hai
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Jo Saheb-e-Mizaj-e-Naboowat tha wo Hussain
Jo waris-e-zameer-e-Risalat tha wo Hussain
Jo Khalwati-e-Shahid-e-Qudrat tha wo Hussain
Jis kaa wojood fakhr-e-mashiat tha wo Hussain
Sanchay main dhalney key liye Kainaat ko
Jo tolta tha Nok-e-Mazaa’ par hayat ko
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Jo Ek nishan-e-Tashna dhani tha wo Hussain
Geeti pey Arsh kee jo nishani tha wo Hussain
Jo Khuld ka Ameer-e-Jawani tha wo Hussain
Jo Ek san-e-jadeed ka bani tha wo Hussain
Jis ka Lahu Talatum-e-pinhaa’n liye huway
Har boond mein tha Nooh ka Toofan liye huway
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Jo Karwan-e-Azm ka Rehbar tha wo Hussain
Khud Apney khoon kaa jo shanawar tha wo Hussain
Ek Deen-e-Tazaa ka jo payambar tha wo Hussain
Jo Karbala ka dawar-e-Mehshar tha wo Hussain
Jis kee nazar pey Shewa-e-Haq ka madar tha
Jo Rooh-e-Inqilab ka parwardigar tha
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Ha’n ab bhi jo manara-e-Azmat Hai wo Hussain
Jis kee nigah marg-e-Adawat Hai wo Hussain
Ab bhi jo Mehwa-e-Dars-e-Mohabbat Hai wo Hussain
Aadam kee jo daleel-e-Sharafat hai wo Hussain
Wahid jo ek namoona hai zibh-e-Azeem Ka
Allah rey intekhab Khuda-e-Hakeem ka
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Ha’n wo Hussain Jis kaa abad Aashna Sabat
Kehta Hai Gaah Gaah Hakeemoo sey bhi yeh baat
Yaney duroon-e-pardaa-e-Sad Rang-e-Kainaat
Ek Karsaz Zehn hai, Ek zee Shaoor zaat
Sijdoo’n sey khainchta hai jo masjood kee taraf
Tanhaa jo ek ishara hai maabood kee taraf
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Taaqat see shaei ko khaak mein jis ney mila diya
Taqtaa Ullatt key qasr-e-huqoomat ko dha diya
Jis ney hawa mein ruab-e-Imarat Urhaa diya
Thokar sey jis ney afsar-e-Shahi Gira diya
**Is tarha jis sey Zulm Siyah Faam ho gaya
Lafz-e-yazeed dakhil-e-Dushnam ho gaya**
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Pani sey teen roz huway jis key lab na tar
Teg-o-Tabr ko sompp diya jis ney ghar ka ghar
Jo mar gaya Zameer kee Izzat key nam par
Zilaat key Aastaan pey Jukaya magar na sar
Lee jis ney saans rishtey-e-Shahi ko Tor kar
Jis ney Kalai maut kee rakh dee maroar kar
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**Har chand ahl-e-joer ney chaha yeh barhaa
Ho jaey mehaw yaad-e-Shaheedaan-e-Karbala
Baqi rahey na naam zameen par Hussain kaa
Laikin Kisi ka zoar Azizo Na Chal saka
Abbas-e-Namwar key lahu sey dhula huwa
Ab bhi Hussainiat ka alam hai khula huwa
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Yeh subh-e-Inqilab kee jo aaj kal hai zoe
Yeh jo machal rahi hai Saba, Phatt rahi hai poe
Yeh jo Chirag-e-Zulm kee tharaa rahi hai loe
Dar parda yeh Hussain kee Anfaas kee hai roe
Haq key Chiray huway hain jo yeh Saaz Dosto
Yeh bhi isee jari kee hai Awaaz Dosto **
**yazid ibne muavia was a Taabi. he was mujahid gud administrator, alim and orator of great standing. his succession was accepted by most of sahaba and most of the muslims accepted his bayath including majority of banu hashim. specially the family of hazrat hasan (RA) who even did not supported the kharooj of Hazrat Hussain. **
**hazrat imam ghazali and other scholars have mentioned that it could not be proved from authentic and independent sources that yazid ibn muavia order the killings of hazrat hussain and his matrydom was a tragic accident. so dr. zakir naik has not said sth new. **
**newayz whether he was guilty or not is known to allah who is the better judge. now it is very irrelevant to discuss about the incident of karbala (as it was not the first event as the sahaba had differnce in the earliest era like hazrat saad bin ubada and hazrat abu bakar , hazrat aisha and hazrat ali… so we cant make judgement as it is the prerogative of allah). we are not accountable for the acts of hazrat hussain and yazid. **
what we are required to do is to lead our life according to quran and sunnah. may allah show all of us right path.
Maverick although I m not qualified enough to take part in this discussion, but the only thing I know and have grown up listening and even believing that that guy Yazid was a bloody bigot who ordered the murder of family of the holy prophet, which included one infant too. Ur showering of praises on this kind of personality is not in good taste and it may hurt sentiments of millions.
Re: DR ZAKIR NAIK AT DUBAI AIRPORT EXPO ON 27 & 28th AUGUST
Maverick- with ur sense of judgement and understanding of the word justice…why dont u say in the same breath that Nimrood was a very strong leader who managed his finances really well…Firoun had very good political & ppl mngt skills…forgive me for saying this but u seem to not know the diff b/w filth and purity…
by da way was not he taabi is that worth laughing.
for rest of the thingd there is difference of opinion… iagree.
well said
did i deny it ?
comparison of hazrat hussain and yazid ib mauvia could not bring ne gud to us. both are imp figure of islamic history.
Dr. Zakir Naik has presented an opinion and his opinion is not new. in history many scholars have that view.
u cant stop an alim from saying sth provided same is backed by knowledge and ratinale.
like the shia’s have a very different definition and “opinion” about the sahaba… and we tolerate
brother jazbatti
as a general principle we alway compare “like to like case”.
namrood and firoun were kafir and even they claimed that they are god.
here we are talking about two muslims “hazrat hussain and yazid ibn Muavia” both were learned person and had great knowledge of shariah and practicing muslims.
so khuda kay liyay dont make yazid that controversial … he was muslim after all and was the nephew of “mother of believer”.
bhaee u need to read the post carefully before u reply (just kidding!)
Then did the cat got his tongue when Sayyida Zainab, Imam Ali’s daughter, gave her khutbah in Yazid’s (LA) court?
Why would the comparison not bring any good? One killed another. Comparison is bound to happen.
A so-called “Taabi” killed a Sahabi of Rasoolallah and a member of Ahlul Bayt. He then enslaved and abused women of Rasoolallah’s family and brought them in his court in front of other "taabi"s.
If you call Yazid a “taabi” then you should also call Abu Jahl a “Sahabi”.
All such opinions of these NASIBI scholars go down the drain when one compares who Imam Hussain was, and who Yazid was.
May be this is why you are afraid of comparisons between them, because the comparison clearly shows the low character of such scholars who defended Yazid’s killing of Ahlul Bayt.
Re: DR ZAKIR NAIK AT DUBAI AIRPORT EXPO ON 27 & 28th AUGUST
Did yazid punsih the people who were resposible for the killings at Kerbala? If he was not himself involved? And then why he sent forces against Ibn’ Zubair and his forces later stoned Kaba?
Re: DR ZAKIR NAIK AT DUBAI AIRPORT EXPO ON 27 & 28th AUGUST
maverick u are either a nasibi or have been duped by nasibi propoganda , dr naik maybe an expert in debating with yahood nasara ( and may God bless him for that if his intentions ar sincere) but he is clearly ignorant of sunni hadith and history.
Good point raised by brother Mostar95 , I will wait for your answer. Plus dr naik conveniently forgot the pillaging of medina by syrian army of yazid and as mentioned by mostar95 the siege of makkah.Are these all arguments of “shias” ?
Your problem is the same with many other sunnis in the past in their munazirat or debates with 12ers they go to any extreme and adopt any method fair or foul to win.In this way they stoop to the level of the same rafidas whom they detest so much.
Re: DR ZAKIR NAIK AT DUBAI AIRPORT EXPO ON 27 & 28th AUGUST
wow i missed that who ever told u yazid was a mujadid ? same people who said that muawiyah was from ashra-e-mubashira ( roll eyes)
man u guys are so messed up ! and the 12ers feed of this
let me set you straight the ijma of ahle sunnah scholars is that in all his wars ali b alitalib was right and all those who opposed him were wrong.Plus this is not merely a historical issue but a RELIGIOUS one. As all laws in Shariah pertaining to dealing with muslim rebels come from the Quran and EXAMPLE OF ALI B ABITALIB.
She is no doubt the wife of Prophet and our mother, but muslims had the option to support either mother or what was Haqq and Ali was on Haqq at that time.( refer to sahih muslim and hadith of ammar in the mosque of kufa)