Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

^ several reasons:

1) Pakistan is not the US.
2) AQK aquired the technology by nefarious means from Europe.
3) He sold it to rogue nations such as Libya, N.Korea
4) Pakistan was hiding these transactions unlike the US - obvious pangs of guilt here, trying to protect aid
5) Finally, given the nebulous nexus between the govt, isi, khan labs and terrorist outfits, suspicions that AQK is capable of selling such weapons to terorrist orgs such as Al Qaeda, Hizbolla and LeT are not far fetched.

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

  1. So? The law is the law as they say in the US.
  2. The CIA allowed it to happen and told the Dutch to back off. Read the news.
  3. So has the US.
  4. Don't ask don't tell. You should know how apt that is.
  5. Right and you were whining on about conspiracy theories. You are truly pathetic verizon.

  6. Don't you have an thread to reply to in Pak1? You know the one where South Koreas are culturally different than Pakistan and thus their economic policies are different?

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

  1. Both Pakistan and US are countries on this planet.
  2. AQ Khan is a scientist and like all scientists he has the right to work wherever he wanted to.
  3. Rouge nations often get weapons and technology from US.
  4. These transactions were just kept secret.
  5. Where are these organizations? Even if they exist somewhere, they must be using ThinkPad and Nokia to communicate.

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

^ Irrelevant unconnected ramblings.

The question was whether AQK is a criminal - and the answer is a resounding Yes on all these grounds. Which is amplified by his own government's actions on him when it hit the fan.

Problem is, many losers like you think he is a hero and so the saga continues.

verizon? that's my dsl, so what?

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

If AQ Khan is a criminal then so is Einstein.

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yawn you want to go point by point again or would you rather go off topic?

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

^ I'll just let you and umer duke it out. Between Einstein and Freud, you two have a lot to discuss

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

Aww you don't want to discuss how the south korean formation of the face helps their economic policies? Or rather discuss how the law is only applicable to the US?

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

^ ? er what? either you've given up holding the marbles intact or confusing threads...either case, it's such a bore. Please stop embarassing yourself so kiddo

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

This coming from a man who said: Pakistanis are very different from Koreans in terms of culture, ethics and ability to change

Now back on topic, how is AQ Khan a criminal? Selling arms technology is a legitmate business. The US does it. The EU does. The Chinese do it. Heck Russia does it.

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

Just so you don't get away with lying - that was in response to your nonsensical comparison of Pakistan to Asian Tigers.

As to why AQK is a criminal - I have given you the reasons before in this very thread, so use your scroll wheel button mouse or whatever other American technology you use

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

No dumbass. Re-read the thread where you use neo-classical bull**** and apply it to the developing countries. I showed you that the Asian tigers did the exact opposite and you went all racist talking about their society.

Economics doesn't give a damn about skin color even though you do.

Yeah and i refuted them and you ignored my post. So re-read it and answer my points.

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

^ Calling names is the last refuge of the loser. Get used to losing and in time develop some grace at it.

Guess I have to teach you one more time. Here it is -

  1. Pakistan and Asian tigers are different
  2. Developed countries do not give a hoot about religious laws
  3. Cave mentality and pettiness such as what you're showing has no place in soiety

Since you keep wiggling away from the topic, guess you have conceded and come to terms about AQK. Good

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

yawn Taunts get you no-where.

How is anything you said anything on the subject? I responded to your post on all your accusations - a post which you are repeatedly ignoring.

Now please tell me since is selling arms technology illegal?

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

I think giving weapons to Saddam was a great thing for peace in the world!

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

CM, DD - for some reason you keep comparing Pakistan with other countries, and that is an unnacceptable arguement. US can do a lot of things that Pakistan cannot. Difference between developed and underdeveloped for one thing.

Similarly, the reasons US arms certain regimes are mostly of a positive intent whereas AQK did it for nefarious reasons.

The acts by AQK and Pakistan are like murder. The acts by the US are like that of a judge awarding capital punishment. You can see both as killing but some application of common sense will let you readily see the difference.

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

I am enlightened by your pity argument that you have no idea what you are saying when you post your arguments.

Ethics are ethics and rules should be same for all. We have not seen any negative impact of the great AQ Khan act but we have seen result of Saddam weaponization!

What was the positive intent there?
War with Iran? or Killings of people with gas? or positive economy for US?

Can you please make to the point argument, besides just saying whatever you want to say…

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

I don't think you're enlightened at all, since you say you don't see any -ve impact from AQK's crimes.

Until you understand the fundamental difference between Pakistan and other countries especially democracies, the truth will remain unpalatable to you. Don't you think it is embarassment for a nation to have to disown its own government's actions and resort to blaming individuals? The only other alternative being AQK acted on his own w.o the govt's knowledge, In either case the govt comes of as incapable of controlling such technology, which goes back to the starting position that Pakistan and USA should not be compared.

And where are the ethics in the said disowning? what rules did you apply for stealing?

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

I was hoping you would follow up with the positive things you mentioned before.

There is no problem with the deal whoever did and however it was done secrete or open.

Its not stealing or unethical if its good for the nation at large What great AQK did.

Read my post..... I said I was enlightened that you have no idea what you say in posts.

Still waiting to hear the "positive intents" you mentined.

Re: Dr Khan-patriot or criminal

This funny jammies is like Gog's and Mog's, every night he goes to bed wipping, crying, trying to find ways how to put up a negative picture about Pakistan and finally gets an idea, post it here on GS and goes to bed. Next day gets up, comes to GS thinking he may have convinced few but to his surprise people get back to him even stronger and he starts over.

Hey here's a hint for you how to be successfull. Repeat after me and the people here on GS will be your witness...here we go. "La ilaha illallah Muhammadur Rasulallah"