"Don't be such a mullah"

what do u think ONLY Mullahs or Ulemas of Islam can do this, everyone can read a Nikah or read Janaza, I dont see here now any big problem that I go around and search for some1 to pray for us!!!

friends of my uncle are sunnis and shias, they dont hate us :hehe:
it´s only MULLAHS who hate us :wink:

Are we talking about mullahs or ulema?:konfused:
I agree with Deggas it all comes back to which side are we on.
And i know alot of people who are not mullah but donot think ahmedi are rite. Take me for example.
Another thing, i see the point that sticking women up on the billboards is not the biggest problem we have but neither does it help in any problem.
Don’t you think its a game of “who is more wrong, you or me?”

Another thing i wanted to ask

The Mullahs were not as strong in the days of the spread of Islam. If some of our great Sufis of India (who take credit for us being muslims today) were around these days, they would have been pronounced “kafirs” by the mullahs of today because of their teachings!! (eg fusion of music within religion etc.)<<
isn’t it they only wrote poems or read the poems? They didn’t exactly used music? i could be wrong so waiting for your reply.

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Another thing i wanted to ask

The Mullahs were not as strong in the days of the spread of Islam. If some of our great Sufis of India (who take credit for us being muslims today) were around these days, they would have been pronounced "kafirs" by the mullahs of today because of their teachings!! (eg fusion of music within religion etc.)<<
isn't it they only wrote poems or read the poems? They didn't exactly used music? i could be wrong so waiting for your reply.
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There were many sufis - As far as I know, some encouraged music too. The point was that they settled in with the hindus and spread the word whilst living in with them and their teachings were a fusion of hindu culture and islam- a kind of evolutionary islam that is discouraged in these days of fundamentalism.

thats true that rigidity is not the best method to use but in my knowledge music is haram so how can you use haram to invite to islam.However i do think that hating people who listen to music is not good cuz islam doesn't teach to hate. The sole point is Allah's pleasure.

We all do one thing wrong or another. Nobody is perfect. One listens to music, the other one doens't listne to music, but gossips, we look at the 'big' mistakes in our eyes and seem to forget the 'little' things that are just as important!

Question isn't that good Mullahs exist.

Question is WHEN will the good Mullahs gain more recognition than the bad Mullahs.

Seems to me the answer lies in promoting the good and refuting the bad.

Seems to me the bad have the unfair advantage over the good today, but it doesn't necessarily have to remain so, as long as the good outweigh the bad.

Means the good need to take a tougher stance on discouraging the bad and praising the good.

The good need to fight to be heard.

And that is what is worth fighting for.

Its what matters most.

And the fight doesn't have to be violent. One can sit down and refuse to give ones authorization to the bad decrees. Ignore them, but ignore them loudly and gracefully.

Begining with the words, "No, I disagree." And the reason I disagree is because ........

Though admit truthfully life is probobly easier being one of the silent majority. Certainly if under threat of death.

But if the silent majority are truly the majority, only takes a few voices to be heard.

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welll......to all those who dont like mullahs......and definately majority oft them is mirzai.......i would like to suggest that plz from now on dont invite any mullah when ur are marrying......when u want to pray janazah of ur loved one.....and ast many other instances.......i agree with nadia that silent majority of ulema are very tolerent....
and for that kid caled basic force.......kiddo try kalling some mirzai muslim infront of me...........i can stand any thing but cant stnd the mirai junk............
think why muslim all over the globe hate mirza........
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You can stand any thing other than Mirzais then stand me. I am not marzai. I am also not Muslim. I do not believe in oneness of God due to non-existence of scientific or or logical evidence. I also do not "believe" in prophethood of Muhammad (PBUH) due to same reasons.

You are a "polite" Mullah and my views are considerably different than yours. Are you ready to tolerate me....???

Now I ask you where your Islam make it mendatory for common muslims to "invite" mullahs on various occasions. In fact, Mullahs themself have make it mendatory for a common muslim to "invite" them on their various social occasions for their own economic reasons. In this way, they are surely following the pattern of Hindu "Barhamans".

I know that you are "polite" in your daily life. Now tell me honestly are you ready to treat me positively after considering my "some what" different views than yours...???

You are preaching hate. If it is the Islam, then I being the non-muslim consider myself etheically more positive than your Islam. What you offer me...??? You, being a muslim are offering "hate for someone" to a non-muslim. You are offering negative ethical values to a non-muslim who is ethically more positive than you. Why should I accept your Islam...????