So we have grown up with this mentality that you can’t keep dogs at home otherwise angels wouldn’t visit your house. I never thought about it untill i moved to the west where i am in absolute love with Alaskan Malamute. Now my question is that is keeping dogs haram ? Do we have any authentic hadeeth ? The reason i am asking this now is because the other day I saw “Ghamdi’s” video clip in which he referred to some quranic ayat and said that dogs aren’t haram, which made me thinking that how come only one scholar is saying not haram and others are ?
I have only heard from other scholars. And found the following to recall what I have heard:
So it seems, it is permissible if the dog is kept for a purpose such as hunting, guarding property or livestock, etc. But if the dog has no purpose, then Allahu A’lam.
I dont understand. How taking care of an animal - feeding it, providing safety would count as a bad deed? Better than getting euthanized or living stray. Some parts of Islam just doesn’t make sense to me. Sorry
you can provide same things to a pig, would that means that it should be allowed in Islam ?
I believe it has more to do with un-hygienic nature of the dogs back in the days. Dogs has potential of spreading lots of diseases. The only reason that dogs are safe now is because of medical science (vaccinations etc) but before that it wasn’t the case. Thats the only possible reason i could think of of dogs being non-permissible.
What if I have a pig farm? I am not eating pork but providing shelter and food to pig is haram and would count as bad deed? don’t think so. Pig is a living being too and we are asked to show kindness towards all the creatures
Yeah I mean just look at any developing nation in the 21st century including Pakistan to see how badly most stray dogs are treated and how dirty they are. So imagine back in the day how dirty the dogs must have been so yes the Hadith absolutely made sense back in the day. Dogs are now treated better than humans in Westernized nations and are well groomed, vacinated and very clean. They’re one of the smartest most loyal creatures, humans could learn a lot from them. Remember Hadiths are day to day guidelines on how to be best Muslim in the context of the Quran, developed by a human being in the 500s AD. I know some take Hadiths as rule of law but it is not word of G-d, that’s the Quran.
After Quran, Hadeet is the most important source of information. The quran tells you to offer prayer but its hadeeth/sunna which tells you how to. There are lots of things which are part of religion and are solely based on hadeeth because from Quran we got the hint to do that, we never got the way to do it and hadeeth’s showed us the way.
Yeah I know, not trying to say Hadiths aren’t important. I know they play a major role in our religion and some even use it as the basis of law (i.e. Sharia law). Just offering another perspective that they were rulings and guidelines on how to be a proper Muslim, developed by a human being based on that time period using the Quran as the context. But they are not direct words of Allah. Allah is all knowing, not a human being so just keep in mind the context of some Hadiths, based on the 500 ADs era. For that era, a lot of the rulings make sense including not keeping a dog around (dogs were really dirty and infested with ticks and fleas and people needed to have a clean area to pray), polygamy (was a time of war, men were dying at war leaving behind widows, and women were not financially independent, and are trying to spread a new religion so creating more offspring from multiple wives also helps accomplish that), etc
In my personal opinion, its the dog’s saliva that is considered haram so if it touches your clothes, the clothes become naapaak too. But if you just pet him or something or make him stay outside your house, it should be ok. But its an opinion only.
Yeah he’s the perfect human being, and we should emulate and respect him but hes still a human being. Thats not meant in a disrespectful way, its a fact. And last time I checked, we don’t worship human beings. And plus Hadiths were written down by others, not him directly. All I’m saying is the context of Hadiths needs to be taken into account to truly understand them. And the context is society during the era of 500 AD.
Jews aren’t the only ones who do that..done out of respect. You love posting nonsense on threads while not contributing anything to the discussion right?
Where did I say you should worship the Prophet? And yea hadith are written by sahaba’s etc. and I don’t believe there is any mistake in hadith regarding the dog because multiple different sources reported it.
Even the Quran was compiled by humans, you think it was tampered with too?
I was going to till I noticed what you did. Well you did not deny being one. It don’t matter if you are one; you are welcome here, just don’t try to pass off as a muslim and post nonsense in the name of islam
Nah I’m not saying anything has been tampered with or that it is wrong. I’m saying that the guidelines will need to be relatable to people’s experiences of that era and the current state of affairs otherwise it would not be applicable to society and the concepts would never catch on and a new religion would not spread. I was just saying need to understand historical context to truly understand Hadiths.
Lol what? Feel free to contribute to discussion in a civil manner and point out anything that I said was wrong or factually incorrect rather than passing off ridiculous judgements about my religion and calling me a nonmuslim. You do know there is a Hadith about only Allah being able to judge? Look it up.
So what makes me more confused is Dogs are not ‘Haram’ .. yes? Because all the Harams are already mentioned in Quran and Dog wasn’t one of them … Dog is ‘Najis’ or ‘Napak’ … but not haram so comparing pigs with dogs doesn’t make sense… plus … saying dog’s saliva is napak and not the animal is just bunch of nonsense .. Its like saying I love you but not your kiss … :-o …