ibrahim i came across this article which
describes the conflicts and how to come
terms with it.
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/yahyam/page6/relations.htm
BTW how will I know you are Brahmin? do not spoil the name of the Brahmin by keep on branding yourself as one, , for by your words and deeds you can only be a sudra, since in order to be a Brahmin you need to worship Allah alone and have high morals , which obviously seem lacking from your actions and words<<
Ibrahim, you seem to get a pleasure in outcasting me!!
For your information I am a Brahmin, proud to be one and will remain one.
We never understood the phrase 'Suck Up To The Conqueror And Change Your Religion'
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Zalim: i disagree, if the message is completed and everyone can understand this message then why all of you guys are waiting for Imam Mahdi and Jesus to revive something if not Islam? Why bother, if you have everything, why cant you do something and unite the whole ummah? If the message is so clear that you have preserved its essence for the last fourteen hundred years without any rust or crust, then why Muslims are facing such an agony and despair through out the world? why cant your complete and perfect message can win you the victories like of kaisar and kasra? perhaps if anyone can answer one.
PS: I don’t disagree that message is not complete or is not perfect, infact this verse also claims that messengers can come.
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Zalim..
the reason for the coming of Imam Mahdi or Jesus are quite different to the reason why Prophet Muhammad was the final prophet.
There will always be people who do not agree with you.. same way there will always be people who will not accept the word of God.. painstakingly showed by the Uncle of the prophet himself.
The reason for the coming of Mahdi/Isa is to create the kingdom of God by getting rid of all the "disbelievers"
so that has nothing to do with the completeness of the religion or whether further prophets will be required.
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Originally posted by Andhra:
Ibrahim, you seem to get a pleasure in outcasting me!!
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Ibrahim says; What! Why would I get pleasure in slandering you? On the other hand I am sure the TRUTH is obviously CLEAR, thus judging from your words and actions and the way you slander the hindu scriptures according to your whims and fancies, speaks volumes as to your sudra soul in you. And such character can only belong to the sudra. That is why the Brahmins considered the sudra as their salves and punished them harshly for their contemptible behavior.
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For your information I am a Brahmin, proud to be one and will remain one.
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Ibrahim says : to you and the ignorant you maybe, but to me you are not and I have to insist that you are a sudra, because I know what are the requirements for a man to be considered a Brahmin .
** Now coming back to the subject of this thread, can you tell us what was wrong with the hindu scriptures, which suggests that the Final prophet will be born in Arabia and he will be the “Praised one” (Mohammed) **
Did you understand the reason as to why he is the “praised one” or still having problems?
blackzero: The reason for the coming of Mahdi/Isa is to create the kingdom of God by getting rid of all the "disbelievers"
Zalim: how?
hey … by conversion i guess..
the spanish did it at the inquisition..
If i knew.. i could call myself mahdi..
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not wouldn’t that cause problems… there have already been many claimers to the crown.
By conversion? You mean Quran in one hand and sword in another; or One man (mahdi) will go after kafirs, pressuring them to convert and the Other (Jesus) will go out killing pigs and breaking crosses; Is that your envisage?
Let me rephrase my statement; IF you have a perfect book (for which there is no doubt) and if you have the perfect essence of that book, then why you need a Mahdi for conversion; Don’t you think you have The Perfect Tool? Or you think there is a dire need for someone to come? If there is, than definitely the teaching you are talking about though pure but is no more than a “close book”, and without that person cannot be unlocked and perceived correctly.
By the way a mahdi is a person who delivers hadayat (guidance) after receiving one from Allah (and not from mulla) and any person who receives a hadayat from God for the guidance of mankind is in simple words called as a “Prophet” and nothing else; That’s why Allah has addressed all the prophets of the past as Imam Mahdi (21:73) of their time.
PS: All those who have claimed as mahdi/prophets, none has survived for long; they all died a tragic death and none of their followers exist (have any example?). But one who claimed from God still flourish and angles protect them.
Who r u to question Allah’s authority. And what is ur aukat to ask this kind of questions.
Allah is the most knowing. And he has the knowledge of every thing.
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