Re: Does Pakistani journalist deserve freedom of press?
haha.. you win the contest for spending more time in the West. now sue me for libel :p
with respect for your 32 years though, your completely off on this count. see the above link and the relevant passage about needing to prove falsity of statements in matters of public interest. given that falsity of a statement about the intentions of people cannot be proven, you cant apply do libel here.
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given that
you need to prove that the statement is false in order to prove libel, I dont see how you can prove that the intention wasnt malafide. At most you can say that there is no evidence to support malafide intent, which is not the same thing, and does not mean that the statement is false.
but its US law not pakistan :)
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True, the US has a richer history as far as laws go, and their laws have evolved to protect their freedoms of expressions.
However the Pakistani law has the same criteria too, the statement has to be proven false before it can be regarded as defamation.
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Yea, does that means what Salman Rushdie wrote, what those cartoons of Prophet (SAW) got published, all was right?
Not a matter for me to jusge what he wrote. However was making riots better?
would it not have been better to use the freedom you had been given to counter his claims or just brush it aside like any intelligent person would have.
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and if it is proven false, u are only stuck with a rs50K bill?
dude this is fantastic news. I cant tell you any more than that at this time.
it will be big though 
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Gone are the days when you could make fool of people by suppressing freedom of press. The world has moved on and the dictator and his supporters who would like to suppress the freedom of press now might need it them self one day. Remember that.
We are ushering in the days where one could make fool of people by using freedom of press as a slogan.
You build credibility by understanding and showing both sides of the picture. NEWS media, even if they depict the truth from one side and hide the truth from the other, it becomes propaganda and does not remain objective NEWS anymore (classic example: FOX).
-Has government banned airing of programs showing comments and allegations against Musharraf and government? If they have done such a thing, then that is completely wrong.
-Has the press showing both sides of the picture to the viewers? If it has not, then it has done wrong and actually propagated propaganda.
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It's hard to be neutral when musharraf is clearly wrong.
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Free press and free judiciary is scam in Pakistan. Only fear rulez.
Jiye Mutahhidda :k:
May Allah grant lives of all haq-parast guppies to Peer Sahab. If it was not for him, Mohajirs would have been pochaa-lagaaying in Punjabi houses. A messiah has been targeted by evil media. They do since the beginning, but the INNOCENT will prevail. We have only one God-gifted leader in Pakistan. May Pakistani awake and embrass the true statue of freedom of speech, our Altaf Bhai.
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/world/4861775.html
Musharraf gets tough on media in Pakistan
The Pakistani president gives the government more powers to shut down TV channels
By SALMAN MASOOD
New York Times
ISLAMABAD, PAKISTAN — In an apparent move to curb media coverage of the continuing political crisis over his suspension of the country’s chief justice, President Pervez Musharraf issued a decree on Monday that gives the government more powers to shut down independent television channels.
The decree allows a government regulatory agency to make new regulations on its own, to seize broadcast or distribution equipment and seal the premises of organizations that are operating illegally or against regulations. It also allows the agency to revoke broadcast licenses.
Even before the decree was issued, several news channels said their transmissions were disrupted across much of the country over the weekend. GEO, the foremost independent channel, said its transmissions across most of Pakistan had been blocked since Sunday. The channel produces one of the country’s leading political talk shows. Two other channels also reported heavy interference with their transmissions.
All of Pakistan’s independent television channels are transmitted by cable companies, and journalists blamed the government for pressuring the cable companies to block or interfere with transmissions.
“The country is passing through a critical scenario. If no talk shows are allowed, if no discussion is allowed then what is the use of a news channel?” said Shahid Masood, host of a popular GEO talk show. “We are not a party in this dispute. We are just messengers. Why are you shooting the messengers?”
Government officials deny the claims of interference. Muhammad Saleem, head of public relations at the government agency that regulates the media, the Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority, claimed that the government had nothing to do with the stopping of transmission of news channels. “There is a dispute between the cable operators and media channels,” Saleem said. “We have no hand in this.”
The moves against the leading television channels and Monday’s decree appear to be the president’s latest tactics in containing the political fallout from the suspension of the chief justice, Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, who has not shied away from challenging the government. The chief justice’s dismissal has added to growing calls for change after seven and a half years of military rule by Musharraf, who seized power in a coup.
The news media have given prominent coverage to the chief justice’s speeches and to the lawyers, judges and opposition political parties who have rallied behind him in his refusal to accept dismissal.
In an interview on Monday, Imran Aslam, president of GEO TV, called the government’s claims that the transmission blockage was due to disagreements between television channels and cable operators “convenient, to put it mildly.”
Re: Does Pakistani journalist deserve freedom of press?
Chudhri Atizaz and most CJ lawyers are lucky. He and most CJ lawyers made allegation that reference has malafied intention of President Musharraf. If I was President, I would have sued Chaudhir Atizaz Ahsan and all lawyers of CJ, with libel case, demanding one billion rupees from them (as value of libel represent the position of person libel is made) asking them to prove that reference has any malafied intentions.
I would have separately sued all media channels that made same assumptions, that reference has malafied intentions.
In reference there is nothing mentioned about reasons these lawyers are claiming, and it is impossible to prove what intention a person has. Hence, they could never prove any malafied intention, even if there is any.
Haha
President should sue millions of people lining the roads along CJ's route as well.
And who is talking about assumptions, you are the person who has repeatedly on this very forum accused women covering their faces of being sinners, just coz they chose o cover their face. Shame on you.
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Bhai, I am not against freedom of press. I am against lies in the name of freedom of press. I am in support of freedom of press, but I believe that freedom of press should come with responsibility. Strong libel laws along with freedom of press, would be fine.
Freedom of press in Pakistan at present is actually, Madar Pidar Azaad freedom of press.
Can you tell me the lies the press has shown live..:) Isn't it impressive that they can show live lies...
If you have any relative in Pakistan.. just ask him to go on the road at any time (evening, morning, noon) and find 1 person who can stand by the President... just spare the presidential palace and Prime Minister House...
They say that the word of public is word of God (sorry, i don't remember the exact phrase)...
Just an honest suggestion, I will appreciate if you read the last years of Shah-e-Iran and the Ayub Khan and other dictators and you will find the same sort of ending... but some group of people really can't learn..
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and if it is proven false, u are only stuck with a rs50K bill? dude this is fantastic news. I cant tell you any more than that at this time. it will be big though :D
i torn about whether i should tell you about the possible 3 months jail time along with the 50k bill.
Re: Does Pakistani journalist deserve freedom of press?
. They are mostly bikao maal, ready to sell themselves and their right to journalism, to the highest bidder.
They are not looking for press freedom; they are looking for freedom to lie and misguide masses (for whoever pays them). Most Pakistani journalists, just like Pakistani politicians and Pakistani bureaucrats, seems corrupts rather than journalists.
if that would have been the case , then gov would have no worry
but we see , inspite of all tactics , gov fail to break the "YAKJEHATI" of journalists
don't you think, doesn't gov have tried to buy them
:D you are writing against "YakJehati" and writing for Mush
and what should we think about you
do you come into the category , which you yourself mention
i hope so not
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Time has come for our freedom...for the freedom of common man...good and bad people are every where, in every society but that is no justification to hold back freedom.
We will be free....common man would be free...you just wait and see.
Mush has done only one good thing for Pakistan, he allowed private channels, with this he sealed his own fate and that of army rule forever. Its just a matter of time.
Even if there are rotten fish in media, viewers have learned to identify them. Even channels are bound by public pressure now to show what what is true.
So time is running our...chamchas of general should go and take asylum in Uncle Sam's domain...because time has come for our freedom.
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This "do they deserve it" thing has gone on for too long now...army generals have always used this to extend their rule. "Pakistani politicians don't deserve to rule the country" "Pakistani journalists don't deserve freedom" "Civilians don't deserve this, they don't deserve that"
Heck its they the generals who don't deserve a thing! They our our servants and they should serve the nation by doing the job they take oath for period!
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No they don't deserve freedom of the press. We don't deserve food or water either. All of us who don't like the CE should be culled. Good old cleansing of the country of the evil people who want a democracy.
I mean how ****ing dumb are you? Really? This is by far the stupidest post I have seen on GS, and baby I have seen a lot.
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i torn about whether i should tell you about the possible 3 months jail time along with the 50k bill.
no bilateral extradition treaty with US :)
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oh and in order to stay on the topic, I am all for freedom of press, and I am all for responsible journalism.
both have to exist.
Re: Does Pakistani journalist deserve freedom of press?
No they don't deserve freedom of the press. We don't deserve food or water either. All of us who don't like the CE should be culled. Good old cleansing of the country of the evil people who want a democracy.
I mean how ****ing dumb are you? Really? This is by far the stupidest post I have seen on GS, and baby I have seen a lot.
This is one of those. Some are close to being this silly.
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Can you tell me the lies the press has shown live..:) Isn't it impressive that they can show live lies...
Any criticism of his dictator and Murderous Quami Movement is a lie to him, no matter how truthful it is