Does not praying make someone a Kafir?

I’m pretty much just a Friday Muslim, I know that’s bad and Prayer makes me feel good, I feel light and distressed when I’ve prayed, it’s a million times better than smoking ganja, I feel guilty but I’m lazy, encourage me, give me some advice.

I’ve heard a person who abndons prayer becomes a Kafir, is that so? :eek:

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its one of the Pillars of Islam. You tell us.

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Yes it does. u have no business in morque anymore

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read Quran e pak dude and before you read it , make dua to Allah to guide you to the right path. And yeah read it with meanings.

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What hadith is that from? Please quote.

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^ u kiddin?

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I am not. There is no mention of 'five pillars of Islam' in the Quran.

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depends why you aren't praying - if you accept you are required to pray and would prefer to be someone who keeps up with your prayers but for various reasons you don't (e.g. laziness) then you are a sinful Muslim but not a kafir according to the majority view and, in my opinion, the view with the strongest evidence...

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you become a kaffir when you reject.

Prayer is a ritual enjoined on the believers. You may cease to be a Momin if you neglect prayer, you'll still be a Muslim.

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Not praying doesn't make you kaafir, God forbid. Before Islam was spread Allah sent his messangers to guide people to the right path no matter if they were christains or jews. Being a muslim means having faith in one God and all his prophets, books and having a faith in the day of judgement. Allah wants you to pray to make you a better Muslim...to guide you to the right path. Prayer is for your own self and it's the only way to be close to Allah. If you don't pray, you're just harming yourself. Just force yourself to do it even if you don't feel like praying just pray still. If you're busy and don't find time then just make a qazza and pray all of them together. You have so many choices in Islam. That's what I did to make myself a regular namazi, I forced myself and then I was regular in a couple of days. Didn't take that long. So just do that.

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**Praying in Islam is very important. It should come as the first priority in our daily lives. Allah Almighty created His servants to worship Him only. True believers should perform prayers regularly.

We were not born into this world other than the purpose of worshipping and obeying the commands of Allah (swt) and following the Sunnats (ways) of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (saw). Of course we can work, relax, go places, amuse ourselves (within limits) etc. But we should also spend some time learning and practicing our Deen. If we don’t even learn/practice what our beautiful religion teaches us, then how can we call ourselves Muslims?
A Muslim name only suits a true Muslim.**

Let me present some Noble Verses from the Noble Quran regarding this issue:

***"What led you into Hell-Fire? They will say; 'We were not of those who prayed;' (The Noble Quran, 74:42-43)"

"So woe to the worshippers who are neglectful of their Prayers, those who (want but) to be seen (of men). (The Noble Quran, 107:4-6)"

"Enjoin prayer on thy people, and be constant therein. We ask thee not to provide sustenance: We provide it for thee. But the (fruit of) the Hereafter is for Righteousness. (The Noble Quran, 20:132)"

"The hypocrites--they think they are over-reaching Allah but He will over-reach them: When they stand up to Prayer, they stand without earnestness, to be seen of men, but little do they hold Allah in remembrance. (The Noble Quran, 4:142)"

"Their eyes will be cast down--ignominy will cover them; seeing that they had been summoned aforetime to bow in adoration, while they were whole (and had refused). (The Noble Quran, 68:43)"

"So he gave nothing in charity, nor did he pray! (The Noble Quran, 75:31)"

"And when it is said to them, 'Prostrate yourselves!' they do not so. Ah woe, that Day, to the rejecters of Truth! (The Noble Quran, 77:48-49)" ***

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Is there a mention in Quran of Namaz(5 times a day) Being an obligation ?

If you have any difficulty, let me know I will find it for you :slight_smile:

Please bear in mind the following definations for future reference..

Kafir = a person who deny the existance of Allah(one Almighty God)
Mushriq = a person who worship other beings along with one God
Non-muslim = a person who is simply not a Muslim ( not the follower of religion Islam)

Please bear in mind that you(or anyone else) can not become kafir, if you do not fulfill the above mentioned criteria

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Thanks "Not GU!LTY" for posting the verses from the noble quraan.

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Guys, pls keep your Quran vs Hadeeth discussion in its own thread. Do not mess up every discussion, with the same arguments. All such posts should be removed and merged with that thread.

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Is this standard Muslim belief? If it is, does anyone ever question why or have the answer to why? Is God narcissistic? Is it to amuse him? Or does it fulfill and make him complete to create creatures solely to worship him? Or is he testing his powers to determine his ability to create creatures that have decision-making processes that love him? Seriously, I don’t get how something as powerful as the entity that created it all would create such complex and thinking creatures as humans to exist soley to worship him. To me that is more like a rock star/groupie relationship than a loving God/human relationship. Unless there is a different answer I am not thinking of, it sounds as if we are assigning such human qualitites as narcissism, pride and necessitousness to the Almighty.

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^ certainly God doesn't benefit from or have any need of our worship...

Worship in Islam is a pretty comprehensive term and doesn't just mean prostrating on a prayer mat 24/7... to worship God also has the meaning of getting to know Him and doing what he loves, such as being charitable, promoting justice, earning an honest living, keeping good relations with people etc... for example, the verse

"O mankind! We created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other. Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you." (Qur'an 49:13)

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Now that makes a lot of sense. If ‘worship’ is interpreted as living a righteous life and aspiring to the characteristics you list, then the “sole purpose of living is to worship God” makes a lot more sense than the 24/7 on a mat scenario.

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actually the word I read wasn't righteous but he who is of best conduct...

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These are all good. There are many people who take this and similar discussions to mean that they **only **need to focus on haqooq-ul-ibaad (rights of other people), and that they can ignore ***haqooq-Allah ***(rights of our creator).

IMV, both are important.

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Maybe I am not kafir..because I do believe in God. Perhaps my ideas are different than yours....I think thats ok. We share belief in Allah.

Forgive my catholicism. Yet I believe in God.

Forgive Muslims. They believe in one God.

Forgive Jews. They believe in one God.