One's religion and dogma is not from free will but from the moment of birth it is intrenched into them. Of course the GOOD BOOK of whatever faith is presented as the word and exact word from the world above from the moment you born and listen to your parents you will be leave it as so Obviously then, you would have the same argument for the BIBLE should you have been born into a Roman Catholic family( Perhaps even a priest ). And the same argument for the Torah. and the same for Scientology!
i agree with you.
but it seems religion is going to be around because a majority of humans feel like they need it in their lives.
moreso in current "materialistic" times. people will need it to find a meaning in their lives.
and then there's a category of those who will use religion to justify their actions.
as far as wife beating is concerned any woman that gets beaten up and doesnt do anything about it deserves it. its partly the fault of women in that society for letting this happen.
^oh thats very easy just look at the nature of some of the women in this world..lol.Allah also thinks they are 'naakusul akul' he knows better than us about women, who are we to question his judgment.
as far as wife beating is concerned any woman that gets beaten up and doesnt do anything about it deserves it. its partly the fault of women in that society for letting this happen.
It's not that simple, since it presumes that such beatings aren't culturally sanctioned.
In that case, a women simply doesn't have an option to strike bake or even act on her own interest. This is where systemic abuse becomes extraordinarily harmful and problematic.
Gabriel spoke to Mohammed 1400 years ago, about 2000 years ago GOD and Jesus etc, etc, and don't forget Moses, why did he not speak 10, 000, or 20,000 and why not now to civilization when he is most needed? Is HE sleeping or not there? man made sounds plausible don't you think in this point?
Here we go again...why did he? Why didn't he? Is it really relevant?
Why don't I have four arms?
It's okay if that's the result of a random process...that we can accept as-is, but heaven's forbid if God was responsible!
true. i made that statement keeping in mind the cultures i have been exposed to. but most women who are part of societies where beating them is considered normal wouldn't even consider it a violation of their rights anyways (not to such an extent anyways). For these societies , again isnt it something everyone (including women) participate in? as long as there are a few women that act the way somebody wants them to, they will serve as a standard which others will be measured against. if woman A is afraid of what society might think then she is setting a precedent for woman B who will thus be afraid of what woman A might think.
in some cases u dont even know your rights are being violated till someone comes and shakes u by the shoulders.
When teenage schools boys are turned into fundamental extremists it encumbant upon all to question and no where did ALLAH command never question. A wise man questions a fool easily believes is what my dad use to tell me as a child and still does for that matter.
Does that mean I get to question you when teenage marines massacre civlians in the name freedom, democracy, pluralism, and all the other goodness of western civlization?
Heres what Allah is telling us in quran about woman, please read for yourself and ponder to understand.
“Men are responsible for women for that which God has granted them over women and for what they spend from their funds. The righteous women are those who obey and maintain their discretion for what God Has accepted. And for those women from whom you fear ill-treatment (Nushuz) you shall: a) advise them, then b) abstain from their sleeping quarters, then c) BEAT THEM (IDRIBUHUN). If they obey you, do not continue. God is The Almighty above.” (4/34)
Although (BEAT) is a correct translation of (IDRIB), there are FIVE other meanings of the same word that are used by the Quran:
“Do you not see how God has SITED (DARAB) the example of a good word like a good tree…” (14/24)
“Oh you who believe, if you DEPART (DARABTUM) in God’s cause…” (4/94)
“And We BLOCKED (DARABNA) upon their ears in the cave for many years” (18/11)
“…and let them PLACE (YADRIBNA) their covers upon their bosoms…” (24/31)
“…and let them not STRIKE (YADRIBNA) with their feet…” (24/31)
“…the Angels BEAT (YADRIBOON) their faces and backsides…” (47/27)
"And if ye fear a permanent breach between them, appoint an arbiter from his folk and an arbiter from her folk. If they desire amendment GOD will make them of one mind. GOD is ever Knower, Aware." (Quran 4:35)
"If a wife fears ill-treatment (nushuz) or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best..." (Quran 4:128)
^Truthfinder I agree to you it is quite confusing with so many meanings of one word.
Conclusion:
Arabic is a confusing langauge. Some other langauge should have been chosen for the word of God, so we could have crystal clear direction in front of us. Would have been a lot easier for the people to follow, and God would be happy as well because more people would understand what God really is saying to them.
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When teenage schools boys are turned into fundamental extremists it encumbant upon all to question and no where did ALLAH command never question. A wise man questions a fool easily believes is what my dad use to tell me as a child and still does for that matter.
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I've recently discovered that you're an agakhani. You're not a Muslim. The fault you see, is in your agakhanism not in Islam. You don't know rats about Islam. Islam is a way of life. Keep in mind that a religion is only a religion when it is prefect and Islam is perfect. As for your saying that we do not raise questions, that's a lie. Obviously we do. We do question the acts that we were commanded to do and we do have answers for that but one must bear in mind that there are somethings which are beyond explanation not because there isn't a reason for it, but it is because its beyond the human intellect. Here's a proof from the Qur'an:-
Surah al Baqarah:-
And recall when your Lord said to the Angels, I am about to place a vice-generate in the earth, they said, "will You place such who will spread disorder and shed blood'? And We praise You commending You and sanctify You; He told, 'I know what you know not'.
And Allah the Exalted taught the names of all things to Adam. Then presenting all shines before the Angels said, "Tell the names of these, if you are truthful."
They said 'Sanctity to You", We know nothing, but what You Taught us, no doubt, You alone are the Knower and the Wise.
He "said, "O Adam tell them the names of all shines, when Adam had informed them of the names of all, He told, had I not told you that I know all the hidden things of the beavers and earth, and I know whatever you disclose and whatever you hide.
And recall, when We ordered the angels to prostrate before Adam, then all prostrated save Iblis. He refused, boasted, and became disbeliever.
Thus the angels put forth the question 'Why?' with the reasoning that they are more deserving for that rank.
Allah Taalah demonstrated to them by making Hazrat Adam aleihi salam recite names of things which the angels did not know. Thus the superiority of Hazrat Adam aleihi salam was established and the 'Why?' answered. Thereafter did Allah Taalah order them to bow before Adam Aleihi salam. All complied except Iblees.
(answered with the help of some posts at yaNabi.com)
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Arabic is a confusing langauge. Some other langauge should have been chosen for the word of God, so we could have crystal clear direction in front of us. Would have been a lot easier for the people to follow, and God would be happy as well because more people would understand what God really is saying to them.
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I also dont know arabic and had same thoughts as you do. But I found my answer and which now I want to share with you.
Had We sent this as a Qur'an (in the language) other than Arabic, they would have said: "Why are not its verses explained in detail? What! (a Book) not in Arabic and (a Messenger an Arab?" Say: "It is a Guide and a Healing to those who believe; and for those who believe not, there is a deafness in their ears, and it is blindness in their (eyes): They are (as it were) being called from a place far distant!" (quran 41:44)
Allah's Book is unlike any other book on earth as it is subject to His system and His laws which state that only HE can make it understood if HE desires to do so (not the language or qualifications or expertise of the reader).
Allah's Book is unlike any other book on earth as it is subject to His system and His laws which state that only HE can make it understood if HE desires to do so (not the language or qualifications or expertise of the reader).
cheers!
So over n over again it means that choices are being made ,God has made the choices for whome to believe in not to believe in. Then how we are going to be accountable for that on the judgement day that we didnt understand the messege even though he already made a choice for us not to believe in.And we still gonna be punished for that *
*what kinda justice is that?
dude you have no clue do you...ever try reading the Quran? Allah swt answers this question straight up. i cant remember it at the top of my head, i'll post when i can.
well there is lots of things to discuss here but i only say about the verse that you missed one big thing inthere which is like this"Men are in charge of women,because Allah has made the one of them to excel the other,and because they spend of theire property(for the support of women).so good women are the "obedient",guarding in secret that which Allah has guarded.As for those from whome you fear rebellion,admonish them and banish them to beds apart....................for sure we all knows that we cant explaine anything in quran without any fiqh or knowladge but according to the verse there are some conditions which most of us dont know.such as the verse explaine how the women can be .this verse also cover those womens who are commiting sin bravely and openly.
