I desperately need some help. My 8 year old daughter is the victim of her chachi’s black magic. My daughter has been suffering for the last 6 months. I have had her checked by doctors and ALL results are negative. I have asked a number of amils and they have all said that she has black magic on her. None have been able to remove the black magic.
She gets sudden splitting headaches, chest pains as if there is a weight on her chest and really severe stomach pains. She wakes up in the middle of the night scared - says she sees “things” approaching her. The “things” disppears when she starts reciting surah nas.
Please please please - for the sake of Allah - if anyone knows an honest amil who doesnt charge money and does not do black magic - please let me know. I was told by someone that there is a really good amil in Karachi in Sharifabad. He is opposite the women’s hospital near a paan shop. This person doesn’t have his phone number or any other details - they just went to him once and, by Allah’s grace, his work was done. I don’t live in Pakistan but if anyone of you can help me I would be eternally greatful.
Play Surah Bakara in the house all the times. Read ayat al Kursi...pray the three qull 3 times and blow on your hands and wipe hands on the child 3x each night before going to sleep.. Make dua to allah...Youtube "Ruqiyah" and play that in your house all the time
Jazak Allah for your replies and duas - it means a lot to me.
I constantly play Ruqiyah in the house and pray on water and give it to her - lots of people have said "read this" read that" and Alhumdhulillah it gets better but doesn't go away completely. I've noticed she is usually well when we are not at home but the moment we walk in through the door - she starts getting her symptoms. I know for sure it's not psychological.
I don't know what doctors you've been to, but they obviously aren't very good. Your daughter is displaying classic symptoms of panic/anxiety attacks. They are relieved when she focuses on something else and calms her breathing, like reciting poetry to reciting religious scripture. Please, don't take her to a witch doctor. Take her to a good pediatrician. Her condition is very treatable. This is no black magic. Please, do the right thing!
First of all - Jazak Allah Khair to all of you for getting back. I admire and respect the response from the well-wishers on this forum.
Believe me, my decision to see an amil was not an easy one. I have seen my daughter suffer for the last 6 months. She has even been hospitalised and ALL her test results have been negative - blood, urine, x-rays. I live in the UK and the area I live in has one of the best hospitals in the country and the team of local GPs are very good.
The paediatricians themselves cant seem to agree what is wrong with her - they seem to be playing the guessing game and, consequently, giving her a cocktail of steroids, painkillers and antibiotics which I am totally against for such a small child.
The doctors I have seen are very good - I have consulted different doctors to get different opinions. I’m sorry, but I disagree that my daughter is displaying classic symptoms of anxiety/panic attacks. Classic symptoms are:
The symptoms of a panic attack can be very frightening and distressing. Symptoms tend to occur very suddenly, without warning and often for no apparent reason.
As well as overwhelming feelings of anxiety, a panic attack can also cause the following symptoms:
a sensation that your heart is beating irregularly (palpitations)
Jazak Allah for your replies and duas - it means a lot to me.
I constantly play Ruqiyah in the house and pray on water and give it to her - lots of people have said "read this" read that" and Alhumdhulillah it gets better but doesn't go away completely.** I've noticed she is usually well when we are not at home but the moment we walk in through the door - she starts getting her symptoms.** I know for sure it's not psychological.
Is there something in the house that is bothering her. Did she get frightened seeing something or somebody. I am just thinking if you could stay at an alternate place for sometime and then decide. I have heard that once you start going to these guys there is no going back. Please be doubly sure before you start anything.
I guess some people don't know that black magic does not mean the victim will suffer some unnatural symptoms or disease. Just because what the child experiences can be defined as symptoms of an obscurely defined disorder, does not mean the disorder is fully comprehended and therefore controlled. On the other hand, not everything that cannot be defined medically means its black magic. Either way, having her listen to the quran is a good idea either way. Even if she has a medical condition, listening to the quran can help cure her, as in the quran there is a cure for everything. So please don't advise to not listen to the quran out of ignorance; and yes always seek medical opinion as well. Most conditions are indeed medical, but there are rare cases of black magic.
I’m sorry your daughter and you are suffering. I’m a parent. I understand what you must be going through. But your daughter is not possessed by demons or evil spirits. She doesn’t have a spell cast on her by a witch or a warlock. No witch doctor can do anything for you.
You seem like a smart woman, please don’t let superstition overrule your good judgement and rationality. You have a healthy, beautiful child. Children often experience things like this. It’s just growing pains. She is not in the control of any dark or evil forces. What she has is very treatable and is most like transient. Don’t let fear take over you.
You sound like you've had an above average education, I sincerely hope you make a better decision and change your mind about contacting an amil.
There are such things as sincere amils....they may be few and far in between....but they do exist; speaking from experience. The genuine ones don't charge you a dime and they prescribe recitation of certain surahs and tasbeehs to combat the magic....and neither do they tell every single person that contacts them that they're afflicted by jadu.....the genuine ones will even tell you that there's no magic/nazar/jinnat on you and won't charge you regardless. Not all of them are frauds. Education doesn't protect from jadu...nor does it prevent people from dabbling in the sick stuff.
Magic exists....hence the sending down of surah Falak n Naas. It can affect the educated and the jahil alike. It's not like the OP immediately jumped to the conclusion that it's jadu. She considered and explored other possibilities first. Yes, there ARE people out there that blame every problem in their life on nazar and jadu....it's easier for them to do this than to accept responsibility for their own actions or lack thereof. But that doesn't mean magic does not exist. I get annoyed by people who play the jadu card for every trouble, but i also get irritated by the condescending attitude that one shouldn't even consider that as a possibility among others just because they're educated. To clarify, I'm not saying that it can't be a medical or a psychological problem....it very well can be....but i wouldn't say that it absolutely cannot be jadu.
There are such things as sincere amils....they may be few and far in between....but they do exist; speaking from experience. The genuine ones don't charge you a dime and they prescribe recitation of certain surahs and tasbeehs to combat the magic....and neither do they tell every single person that contacts them that they're afflicted by jadu.....the genuine ones will even tell you that there's no magic/nazar/jinnat on you and won't charge you regardless. Not all of them are frauds. Education doesn't protect from jadu...nor does it prevent people from dabbling in the sick stuff.
Magic exists....hence the sending down of surah Falak n Naas. It can affect the educated and the jahil alike. It's not like the OP immediately jumped to the conclusion that it's jadu. She considered and explored other possibilities first. Yes, there ARE people out there that blame every problem in their life on nazar and jadu....it's easier for them to do this than to accept responsibility for their own actions or lack thereof. But that doesn't mean magic does not exist. I get annoyed by people who play the jadu card for every trouble, but i also get irritated by the condescending attitude that one shouldn't even consider that as a possibility among others just because they're educated. To clarify, I'm not saying that it can't be a medical or a psychological problem....it very well can be....but i wouldn't say that it absolutely cannot be jadu.
Zahida, I've sent you a PM.
Hi RV, did I say magic doesn't exist? As a Muslim, I'm in agreeance on that point.
But also as a Muslim, I don't believe that outside of the surahs mentioned, that there's a permissible cure from magic.
An alim who professes to know secret/exclusive prayers that help cures - where is he getting the privileged info? (Obviously not from Quran and sunnah)
^Based on what I've read there are degrees in magic...with sifli being like the most severe. Just like a doctor will base frequency/dosage of a medicine on the severity of the ilness...an amil will do the same. The recitations and tasbeehs themselves are no secret...they are found in the Quran/hadith...so open and easily accessible to everyone that it can't be called a secret and a genuine amil won't make such claims. But he might guide a person....as in suggest them to recite this surah or tasbeeh regularly for x number of days....maybe this is based on the severity if the magic.
I read that the Prophet SAWS had been afflicted for 6 months with magic. He had no clue what was wrong with him until he was informed by the angels. I'm just guessing here....but this seems to imply that determining whether or not there is jadu/jinnat on someone is knowlege of the ghaib and some of Allah's servants are blessed with that ability. As for why an amil might suggest k recite this or that surah x number of times.....it could be that in his experience with patients...a certain frequency was found to be effective. Maybe when he checked the patients the symptoms had cleared and over time it led to an observation that reciting a surah a certain number of times was helpful. He didn't suggest anything "outside" of the surahs. Now some people wonder about the validity of reciting a tasbeeh/surah x number of times...and in a program a mufti said that the Prophet saws had suggested recite such n such 33 or 34 times and also that someone was using counters during dhikr and he SAWS didn't object to the recitation of a tasbeeh x number of times.
It's said that using a jinn to determine if a person has jadu on them is not allowed. Some amils may use a jinn for his own gains and some use it to solely to help people. I don't know if there is any leeway in this...haven't come across it....but that's one way of going about it. A raqi might perform ruqya where he may have the patient listen to a recitation of the Quran which might produce symptoms indicating that black magic was done. It's said that black magic can't be done without a jinn, so the raqi will try to banish the jinn from the person. This is another method. Maybe the latter is more halal, I don't know. There was a black magic segment on Utho Jago Pakistan and the panel if imams needed the name of the caller's mother to find out if there was black magic on them. It's said that asking for the mother's name is an indication that a jinn is being used. Again, I don't know if there is any leeway at all in this...if there is a difference in opinion from the scholars...I've heard one mufti say that if the jinn wants to help of his own accord and is not being forced, it's okay. Allah knows best.
I have wondered why it is that it takes us a longer time to be cured from magic whereas it was faster for the Prophet SAWS and when I asked a Quran teacher who has studied the hadith and rules/regulations....she said that maybe it's because our iman is much weaker than the Prophet SAWS.
Recently I story heard of a girl, who was playing in her yard, magharab time. Suddenly she fell and fainted. She was addmitted specialist children's hospital. All tests were negative. Doctors did not know wat to treat her for. She was fed with tube and she screamed all the time. She was in special ward for months.
Our family friend who's hafiz heard about her and decided to visit her. He said when he entered her room she started to throw things at him and continued screaming. He started to recite quranic ayats bt she continued. After sometimes she slowed and than stopped. He visited her few times a week and continued reading during his visit. After few weeks she started to eat food and eventually got better.
Now she is totally normal and out of hospital.
We r always told not to let kids out during magharab time.
We even learnt a lesson about it as well. Few years ago we went to picinic at a dam. Totally isolated dam in middle of jungle. We didnt realise time and stayed there till late. Once we returned hme my nephew would cry and cry. My teenage brother would sleep in mums room saying something is following him.
To cut long story short we talked to hafiz and he told mum to read ayats f r om quran ever morning and evening. Told bro to pray 5 times a day. He with my nephew are fine nw.
I’m so sorry to hear that. May Allah protect you and your family from all evils. I don’t know about any 'amil in Karachi. But please watch this video if you have time. Its quite beneficial.
It is reported from Abu Huraira that Prophet Muhamamd said: "Do not make your housese as graveyards. Satan runs away from the house in which Surah Baqarah is recited. [Book 4, Hadith No. 1707]
It is also said that whoever recite this Tasbeeh (dhikar) hundred times a day, it will be a protectin for him from the devil throughout the day.
"There is none worthy of worship but Allah alone, Who has no partner, His is the dominion and His is the praise, and he is Able to do all things."
There is another Dua which is as under:-
“I seek refuge in the Perfect Words of Allah -which neither the upright nor the corrupt may overcome - from the evil of what He created, of what He made, and of what He scattered, from the evil of what descends from the heavens, and of what rises up to them, from the evil of what He scattered in the earth and of what emerges from it, from the evil trials of night and day, and from the evil of every night visitor, except the night visitor who comes with good. O Merciful One”.
Also recommened to read Ayat-Al-Kursi (From Surah Baqarah) every night before going to bed, will also protect throughout night from evils.
*References: * Ahmad 3/419, with an authentic chain of narration, and Ibn As-Sunni (no. 637). Al-Arna’ut, graded its chain authentic in his checking of Al-'Aqidah At-Tahawiyyah p. 133. See also Majma’uz-Zawa’id, 10/127, Book. Book Name: Hasan-Al-Muslim by Dr. Said bin Ali Al-Kahtani