Does Allah exist?

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@AllahkaBanda

yes, because this is an Attribute of Allah Ta’ala. I showed you logically that there has to be an eternal – infinite regression isn’t possible. Using our common sense we know that we didn’t create ourselves, neither we have been around forever, nor did we come from nothing. Hence, a being who has been around forever created us and rest of the creation. Now this being has to be intelligent and must posses will; otherwise, the delay in our creation cannot be explained. Therefore, we call this Eternal Allah Ta’ala.

Sorry, I didn’t understand the infinite regression you mentioned. Can you please explain it in a different way?

@AllahkaBanda

from top of my head this can be refuted in three ways

1 – If universe has been around forever then it means it would have taken us infinite amount of time to get here. In other words, it means we would never have got here. Have you seen yourself lately!?

I don’t understand ths point either. What do you mean by t would have taken us infinite amount of time to get here?

@AllahkaBanda

2 – We know that we have not been here forever. Which means that at some point in time, something happened in universe, some changes took place and those changes gave us birth. Look at this logically: If no changes took place then we would never have been born as universe would have remained as it was for infinite. However, we are here, which means changes were must! But here is the problem:
a) If universe always had what it takes to bring about those changes then what took it so long? What’s up with the delay? Why did we only come recently?
b) Since universe is the only thing which has been around forever and if it didn’t have what it takes to bring about those changes where did it get it from?

Right, assuming that unverse hasn’t always been there and has been created, I agree with your questions. What/who made it so? It’s the answer that we don’t know.

@AllahkaBanda

3 – The big bang theory proves that our universe had beginning. This has become a fact in world of science now!

My friend, while I applaud your efforts for bringing the logic of science in this arguments, but be careful, are you going to pick and choose your science? for example, science also talks of human evolution and that monkeys and human shared a common ancestor. Would you believe in that?
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@AllahkaBanda

We know that the creation has a beginning and an end. Hence, universe had a beginning and will end by the Will of Allah.

@AllahkaBanda

this statement and next blunder of yours show that you are an agnostic for the heck of it. You know nothing about science or scientific facts and yet to claim to follow them. Scientific facts are based upon research, empirical observations, and testable evidence. Yes, there is some common sense involved but you’re mixing science with philosophy.

Just a red herring. While I appreciate your interest in my knohow of scientific facts, the topic is not about me.

@AllahkaBanda

already explained 5 times…it is hardly my fault if you don’t understand my arguments

right, because your argurment didnt make any sense to me at all.

@AllahkaBanda

utter rubbish and typical blunder, which normally comes from creationists, but guess what this time around an agnostic is the criminal. Are you sure you are an agnostic and you follow science for everything? What is our universe? Here is the definition form Wikipedia:
The Universe is defined as everything that physically exists: the entirety of space and time, all forms of matter, energy and momentum, and the physical laws and constants that govern them. However, the term Universe may be used in slightly different contextual senses, denoting such concepts as the cosmos, the world or Nature.
Off course, we are here talking about the cosmological definition of universe, because the time, space, laws are metaphysical concept which are used to describe relationships between objects and such. Now having that definition, the big bang is a moment in time when the universe (cosmological) started to expand from its previous state of singularity and science describes this is beginning of cosmological universe. It didn’t “burst” or “explode”, nor was it a single atom. We don’t know what singularity is! The Big bang theory isn’t a really theory anymore and a theory is not mere speculation and it is based on many facts and empirical evidences presented by physicists and scientists in the field of cosmology. So please try to get your facts straight if you say that you heavily relay on science!

Right, I am unsure what you’re going on about. I am not doubting the big bang there. And I am sorry for calling the “singularity” a single atom. I am no physcist and I should have read wikipedia before posting just like you do. My bad. What I was trying to convey which you obviously didn’t understand was that there where did that single atom or singularity came from? I don’t know, it could be Allah, or it could be something else.

Since you to like to take science into consideration, which I honestly admire in relgious folks, again what about other theories, which would disapprove Allah’s existence, like theory of evolution? Or is the evlolution theory bogus and you only belive in bang theory because it kinda fits with your existing belief systems?
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@AllahkaBanda

backup what? Have you actually shown that my statements are bogus assumptions? Please do that first instead of repeatedly making this claim.

do you even know the definition of agnosticism? Let me tell you that you are not an agnostic! Agnosticism is to believe that there is no proof in favour or against any higher being or creator! You are a deist, who believe that there a higher/spiritual being or creator, but we are not suppose to follow any particular religion – something along these lines. Please read about these two beliefs at Deism and Agnosticism

Ok, you got me, I am a Deist who was pretending to be a agnostic. My friend, I dont care about labels, call me deist, agnostic, kaffir, sunni, shia etc By strict definition I honestly do not want to be agnostic. I would like to believe there is a higher being and we afterall have a purpose/reason to be here.