where are they…while these hawis parast..money maker…greedy run from Pakistan ..as thier is “lack” of facilities…“low pay”…and other dramai baazia !!!how much of these thousands of doctors..who run from Pakistan ..and thier deen imman is running..and making dollars and pounds …how many of them have met Congressmen …how many of them ..have met Republicans to urge US policy makers to condemn ..the Martial Law…how many of them ..protested the MASTERS to whom they lick thier feet for per month dollars …they consider them the pressure guages ..and where is thier throtle opener..which opened at onvce when Bush invite these 3rd class citizens..to annual breakfast…and they run as slaves run ..to Bush Breakfast…and in such tough times..they are just doing lip service ..and busy making thier money as 3rd class citizens…why not they urging boycott..protest etc..just because MASTERS will be unhappy..as MASTERS support Mushy…in war against islam !!!the 3rd class citizens..of John Hopkins ..and Harvard…are busy making thier money…they consider them as polich changers but they like money..not thier country..why Article 6 of Constitution not applied to such greedy and un thankful people…
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while there is Martial Law...lock on expression on speech...tv are off air...lawyers are brutally being tortured ..5000 are inside jail....and US is very free...all freedoms are available...why the hawis parst doctors..not using it for thier country.....bah
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The people working abroad are helping Pakistanis in lot of ways, perhaps more than they could if they remained in Pakistan. Many of them sponsor 5-10 families back home. And every now an dthen they come back and teach their expertise to doctors in Pakistan.
The overseas Pakistanis send 8-10 BILLION DOLLARS every year. Without this contribution Pakistan will be a lot poorer.
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They are after all Pakistani, apathy, indifference and all rules.
How many Pakistanis in Pakistan held their political parties accountable in the last 8 years, how many went to party conferences and demonstrated for changes in the leadership of their parties.
IN Pakistan there are barely any volunteer groups cleaning up neighbourhoods, too dirty of a job for mummy daddy people. while in US college students volunteer their clubs and groups to take part in highway cleanup.
Why do you expect that the people who left Pakistan after growing up there will become activists all of a sudden.
although since your post is based on lack of knowledge, I will share some with you.
http://pakalert.net/alerts/alert036.asp
and..
http://www.chicagomuslims.com/events_display.asp?ID=9828
RALLY for Pakistan
- Friday, November 9, 2007 **
3:30 pm
Outside of Pakistan Consulate
333 N Michigan Ave
Chicago, IL 60601
btw this is the third rally, 2 have already taken place.
and
and
and
http://www.hdf.com/hdf/newasp/
These are just the ones that contacted me. I am sure there are others.
btw did you check with your hero, the bhagora UET professor who went to Ohio State and see what he is doing, and how many marches, demonstrations he has been or how many letters he has written ![]()
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while there is Martial Law...lock on expression on speech...tv are off air...lawyers are brutally being tortured ..5000 are inside jail....and US is very free...all freedoms are available...why the hawis parst doctors..not using it for thier country.....bah
Chanda if you know nothing about Pakistani lobby groups in US then dont announce it by opening your mouth :)
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where are they....while these hawis parast..money maker....greedy run from Pakistan ..as thier is "lack" of facilities..."low pay"....and other dramai baazia !!!!!how much of these thousands of doctors..who run from Pakistan ..and thier deen imman is running..and making dollars and pounds .....how many of them have met Congressmen ...how many of them ..have met Republicans to urge US policy makers to condemn ..the Martial Law....how many of them ..protested the MASTERS to whom they lick thier feet for per month dollars .....they consider them the pressure guages ..and where is thier throtle opener..which opened at onvce when Bush invite these 3rd class citizens..to annual breakfast....and they run as slaves run ..to Bush Breakfast....and in such tough times..they are just doing lip service ..and busy making thier money as 3rd class citizens....why not they urging boycott..protest etc..just because MASTERS will be unhappy..as MASTERS support Mushy...in war against islam !!!!the 3rd class citizens..of John Hopkins ..and Harvard.....are busy making thier money...they consider them as polich changers but they like money..not thier country..why Article 6 of Constitution not applied to such greedy and un thankful people...
Mr. Divine-light Sahib,
Is their anyting immoral or illegal or un-islamic for these doctors to practice in USA? People might hear what you have to say, if you say that in a normal respectful tone. Over here, you are accusing a group of people and making them even worse then dogs.
As far as I remember, during the earthquakes of 2005, Hundreds of doctors from USA of Pakistani origin went back and stay their for quite a while to tend to the injured.
In US, if you have money (which doctors have aplenty), you are first-class citizen. If you don't have money, then thats a separate thing.
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why you pointing again and again the figure at the man who is a legend of the whole islamic world*..the greatest computer scientist ..the Pakistan ever produced...*who worked such dedicately to his Department of Electrical Engineering..UET,LAhore....and made it to the top most in Pakistan..and Genius like Muhammad Sabieh Anwar ..Muhammad Abu Bakr...Dr. Naeem Ayyaz(Post doc of Purdue in the same field of Biomedical informatics algorithms)..and hundreds of his students are doctoral students ..and presently doing thier doctrates at Georgia Tech...Florida..and Stanford etc...
do you the status of this man ..namely..Dr Shahid Hussain Bhukhari....his value and his patriotism....i have given 2 times on GS ..but both times is removed by the MODs.....whats the comaprison with the greedy runners doctors with the** unparallel genius** of the world in the field of Parallel and distributed Computing....!!!!!!!
his 25 years....and what he did for Pakistan....how many ...generations ...will be able to pay back this debt..nobody knows...!!!!!!!
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http://ravi.lums.edu.pk/sabieh/tipu_urdu_sabieh.pdf
the whole essay is excellent but specially first page and last page(page no. 9)..and last persian verses of Iqbal..with its urdu translantion..but its only for **MEN …not everyone ** !!!
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why you pointing again and again the figure at the man who is a legend of the whole islamic world*..the greatest computer scientist ..the Pakistan ever produced...*who worked such dedicately to his Department of Electrical Engineering..UET,LAhore....and made it to the top most in Pakistan..and Genius like Muhammad Sabieh Anwar ..Muhammad Abu Bakr...Dr. Naeem Ayyaz(Post doc of Purdue in the same field of Biomedical informatics algorithms)..and hundreds of his students are doctoral students ..and presently doing thier doctrates at Georgia Tech...Florida..and Stanford etc...
do you the status of this man ..namely..Dr Shahid Hussain Bhukhari....his value and his patriotism....i have given 2 times on GS ..but both times is removed by the MODs.....whats the comaprison with the greedy runners doctors with the** unparallel genius** of the world in the field of Parallel and distributed Computing....!!!!!!!
his 25 years....and what he did for Pakistan....how many ...generations ...will be able to pay back this debt..nobody knows...!!!!!!!
because to you everyone who is in the west is a sellout third class citizen a traitor to his motherlans whose only focus is making dollars.
and it now appears that your hero is in the west..and by the same extrapoltion.. he is a traitor, a greedy dollar chasing ghaddar who would rather be a third class citizen in US then a first class citizen in Pakistan.
I am only restating your own statements, do u now find them ugly? ;)
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Can someone edit his posts or at least close this thread? It is SO offensive!
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^^ Freedom of speech PCG! freedom. They can say whatever they want here.
Our there Pakistani doctors are already "under watch" of Americans. Do you want them to lose their "naturalized citizenship status"?
They ought to work for the getting more money to Pakistan and not less.
And let the politics be for the politicians. Can you imagine if BB as a naturalized citizen was leading a jaloos against President Bush. She would be kicked out the next day.
It is only in Pakistan that people can spread anarchy in the name of God, Allah, constitution, or Osma bin laden. Only in Pakistan.
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^^ truth is bitter....the 3rd class citizens of AAPNA will never accept that...
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Someone's bitter about being rejected from med school?
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while there is Martial Law...lock on expression on speech...tv are off air...lawyers are brutally being tortured ..5000 are inside jail....and US is very free...all freedoms are available...why the hawis parst doctors..not using it for thier country.....bah
Thats really unfair. I have been working with number of Pakistani American organizations in the US in including in helping organize protests in Atlanta. There were plenty of protests across the US this weekend organized by Pakistanis Americans, and more to come in next coming days. Many of us have been working around the clock calling, emailing and faxing senators and congressmen.
And, the good news is that US Congress is moving in the right direction and 2 identical resolutions have been introduced in both House and the Senate condemning Mushrrafs dictatorship and oppression in Pakistan. Let see what happens in coming days...hopefully Mushrraf will be hanging from the tallest tree in Islamabad.
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I really dont get it...
DL you're ranting about these doctors who live in the west yet the hero/idol that you always go on an on about....lives here in the west. Wassup with that? Perhaps its ok for him because he's so smart and famous so that makes it ok? Or does he assist in the development of Pakistan in some way? How do you know what all these Pakistani doctors are doing here in the west for Pakistan? Do you know for a fact that they're just raking in money for their own selfish benefit?
You havent answered these questions in any sort of coherent manner.
And those of you wishing to see Mushy hanging from a tree...shame on you!! Wishing death on ANYONE is just wrong. So get the country rid of his rule but stringing him up from a tree is barbaric.
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Thats really unfair. I have been working with number of Pakistani American organizations in the US in including in helping organize protests in Atlanta....
Yeah yeah, you can organize "protests" in Atlanta against Pakistan.
But you won't dare questioning your own government's policies. The day you lead a protest about "your" "local issues", you will face the state power.
Just ask what happed to David Koresh and Branch Dravidians.
So carry on Mr. carry On!
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Yeah yeah, you can organize "protests" in Atlanta against Pakistan. But you won't dare questioning your own government's policies. The day you lead a protest about "your" "local issues", you will face the state power.
Just ask what happed to David Koresh and Branch Dravidians.
Putting Koresh and Dravidians in the same league as those who are fighting for human rights shows you're million miles away from the reality.
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Bravo! thats a passion :k:
p.s. can someone get him US visa and passport. he may come and talk on our behalf. :k:
-he is brave, informative, and energetic, and all he needs is lil support to support us ![]()
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i bet you sir....they will never go against the rented slave Musharraf..as what he did and doing nobody can do.....if 100 out of 100 of upper house will go against Mushy..his master Bush will VETO it....they are just doing "psuedo threats"....and they will never do anything serious...ony NATO...UK..and Europe..will do anything seious...like common wealth....
Someone's bitter about being rejected from med school?
come on dear PCG...my neurons can do anything except ratta..cramming..kota etc etc...:) ...are docs are doing well in Florida...:) Dr. Shabir regularly writes in Sunday Nawai Waqt..a man with some islamic web owner also...may be you know him....and i am sure..some of your closet family member is a doctor..6 months agow hen i forst time raised voice against those runners..the first one who came to defend them was...you...:)
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Dear mama …abut 60% of good doctors run annunaly…so you can imagine the vacuum behind…
only few are doing well..rest are busy serving Masters…
why they not stay in thier own country to help poor people..but these greedy run in hawis of money…
and Dr Bukhari has served for 25 years…in Pakistan..and such passion that hardly anyone can reach his level…just check the following links..you will yourself know…
Mind is a terrible thing to waste…
http://www.pakistanlink.com/Opinion/2005/Dec05/23/05.HTM
A legend lost to incompetence…
http://sst.umt.edu.pk/others/article.htm
and Dr Bukhari quits…
http://www.chowk.com/show_article.cgi?aid=00005885&channel=university%20ave