Do you think God answers your payers?

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Dua shapes your personality.
sit back and think at what stage of life what you were praying for.

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He sure does. And its our instincts that tell us whether our prayers are heard or it was pure chance. Its silly to assume every thing happens by chance only, though.

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My replies are within your questions in red text …

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First let me answer you to what you wrote: "Chance of happening something is always 50/50" and then you wrote about prayer being answered by God.

When you really look at the chances of happening something in real life, it is NOT ALWAYS 100%.

Hence, no one is sure if the prayer would really be heard or not, but when it happens, it is 100% reality that prayer WAS HEARD.

Now if prayer was not performed, and what was not even asked does really happen, that is purely 100% by chance.

Got it.

Beat that now. :D

The point is that logic can be played reversed. :)

No. Action does not always = equal result. You should know that. :)

I am sorry humble here means being aware of not having the power to make something happen, despite all the best efforts.

The process of asking someone higher who has the power of making something happen means that the person is humble. It also makes the person even more humble and realistic.

God likes human to acknowledge this fact that the person in all power may not be able to get what that person desires.

Yes, God will do whatever he wants, but that should not make the person pray since result is not in the person's control.

Now, prayer can make God grant what is asked for and out of no or negligible chance, something may happen.

I already mentioned the prayer should not stop the person struggle for something.

It is the balance between prayer and doing something to get something which is advised.

Just a related short story here:

A man was on a small boat in the middle of an ocean. His boat had a leak.

Another man came to his boat and said, jump in my boat before you drown.

First man refused and said " My God will save me, I have prayed for help".

Another man came to help this man, the man again and first man again refused.

After this first man refused another (third) person he drowned and went up the sky. He complained to God, I prayed to you for help then why you didn't help me?

God said to him, I sent three men to you for help and you refused!

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Read more: Difference Between Probability and Chance | Difference Between

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So, its head I win & tail you lose, eh? Let us extend this beyond that. I see people talking about lottery, or probability of winning lottery. Let says I pray to win lottery, and I win (yay! :D) would it be b/c of chance or would be b/c God answered my prayers (keeping in mind that God apparently does not like gambling)?

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No. Action does not always = equal result. You should know that.
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Action always =s result. Otherwise, no action=no result. Let me give you "illogical" example. Lets say I fired a gun, but gun jams & does not fire. It is still an action=result (not expected result), but still a result. So, its one or the other (praying to win lottery...I will either win or not. It can't be both).

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I am sorry humble here means being aware of not having the power to make something happen, despite all the best efforts.

The process of asking someone higher who has the power of making something happen means that the person is humble. It also makes the person even more humble and realistic.
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Being able to recognize limits of human power does not necessarily make you humble, it just makes you recognize those limits. And, neither does humbleness empowers you to overcome those limits. So, humbleness is just a positive virtue & nothing more.

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Yes, God will do whatever he wants, but that should not make the person pray since result is not in the person's control.

Now, prayer can make God grant what is asked for and out of no or negligible chance, something may happen.

I already mentioned the prayer should not stop the person struggle for something.
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Again, if God will do whatever he wants (meaning you can't change his mind with your payers one way or the other) than what is the point of praying? Isn't that kind of makes praying redundant?

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lol That was the whole point and I was merely joking there just to show the argument based on ‘chance’ can be reversed to make your point invalid. :smiley:

About lottery, if one prays and wins. Yes this could be from God as well. Why not?

**God may still grant you something which he does not like.
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God gives power to evil people, God provides means to people to brew wine, God gave free will to hman being, God let Shaitaan go loose (till end of his freedom)…etc. etc.

And yes God may not like lottery or gambling, he may grant the wish…two plausible reasons can be cited:

1- Test the person what this person would do after winning.

2- Punish the person for knowingly asking something wrong.

You must be aware of those several examples that actually winning a lottery brings misery to winners?

Simple google search will tell you.

You said Action always= equal result. Big difference. Why did you change?

You bought one ticket with small amount of money, but won the whole lottery.

Here, action does not equal the result.

You said **it can’t be both. **

How about it can be neither?

You know even a coin may not give you head or tail result.

So in that case chance is not really 50/50.

Try throwing a coin on sand. The coin may land on sand vertically.

Neither head, nor tail. :slight_smile:

I think recognizing the limit is being humble. You don’t think so?

Agree, the humbleness is a positive virtue. But I made a point earlier that praying to higher authority facilitates that positive virtue.

The point here is that **no one claims to be able to change God’s wish by prayer.
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Prayer being heard means God was indifferent to the person’s need but granted the wish when asked.

If God does not want to give, no one can change his mind, no amount of prayer can do so.

Now coming to your original post and question again:

If a person feels that his or her prayer is heard by God.

**How can you prove it is not heard by God but merely a chance?
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Shoddy article at best … For me concerning this topic … God does not take chances … He leaves nothing to probability so each Choice He makes is definite … Which means in order to be heard for a du’a … It is not a matter of random chance, but a matter that is known through the tadbir of Allah (SWT), where He has already granted the du’a to people before they have asked for it in His Wisdom, but they play out the sequence that brings them towards His intended outcome.

The chance is therefore only apparent.

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people are full of arrogance here. You lot speak with such authority regarding what gods does as if you have a direct line with god and he consult with you before making decisions. Even prophet Mohammad did not try to up ever question.
Who knows what Duua does but it is a tool in desperate time.

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Peace bebo

If you want references then ask for references … There is no need to say that I sound arrogant … :frowning:

The crux of my statement stems from this phrase

Nothing Happens without the will of Allah Almighty :: Muftisays Blogs

That nothing happens without the Will of Allah …

That follows that both the acceptance of the du’a and the act of making the du’a by the person are both in the realms of the remit of His Permission.

There are many references to show that Allah (SWT) does not do things without purpose.

One reference here …is about purpose and there is a link to du’a

Surat At-Talaq [65:3] - The Noble Qur’an - ??? ???

And another …

Fate and Divine Decree || Imam Reza (A.S.) Network

So how can “chance” be true and “purposeful occurrence” also be true?

And if we are to take the intent of what was said earlier … That chance is whether or not we would have our du’a accepted … Well the answer is that it does not matter … The fact that we asked … The One Who Deseves to be asked is what is important … A du’a would then be granted either to test us or encourage us … And likewise not be granted to test us or enable us to continue seeking it from Him … Point being the chance is meaningless when we view the situation as true slaves. Slaves who are neither disappointed or amazed when their requests are granted, because it only concerns them that they need to obey regardless.

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You guys should watch the movie Bruce All Mighty.

I THINK God answers some prayers, but simply can't answer every prayer. Some things are just they way they are.

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Entertaining the concept of God on an American comedy??? I have avoided that title ... The shirk idea is just too sickening ... Nah, I'll stick to Islamic references to formulate my idea of Deity.

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Jeez, lighten up! Your such a bore u could bore the dead to death. :rolleyes:

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Have watched that movie, enjoyed it. :)

Now to your comment.

If a so called 'God' can't answer all prayers, then that person must NOT be God.

One of many concepts as well as attributes of God is very simple:

God CAN do anything, unless he does not WANT or WISH to.

(I know the the argument about stone and God making it so big...yadaa yadaa. Answer can be given to that either)

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god has answered my prayer that diwana and only diwana's answer shall reign supreme on this thread.

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There is a believer in you. ;)

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Thats what meant. God CAN but won't.

As in the movie you recall how one day everyone wakes up to find they have ALL won the lottery...

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Some correction again:

God CAN but MAY NOT. :)

Anyhow I do recall of that movie. Everyone became winner with little money, but I suspect what you are up to. ;)

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movies are haram...

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I dont only think but have a very strong belief and faith!! He definitely answers my prayers!! :@: