I do not talk to deads cause I have a faith that my words are not reaching them. If I ever feel like telling my dad something, I do dua for Allah to pass my message to him.
That's an interesting thought. I vaguely remember reading somewhere that are salams are conveyed to the dead. Anyone know anything about that???
^If that's the case, then it would make sense to convey other messages through dua as well.
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Sending salaam or dua is not the same as talking to them.
Sending salaam or dua is not the same as talking to them.
Yes, I already know that Diwanay. But sending a message (salam/dua) is some form of communication.....even though it's not a two-way. I found the idea interesting.
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no :aq: i’ve always considered it weird. i don’t understand how people can talk to the deceased cuz they certainly can’t hear anything. i turn to the living. if they can’t help me, then it’s a direct hotline to Allah…whether i do it during prayer or just have a conversation with him in my head.
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assalam u alaikum ya ahl-al qabur isnt that wat u say when u pass by a grave yard
Nobody here suggested or even recommended that we try to get “help” from the dead or pray to them. I don’t know where you’re getting this idea from. The person who mentioned the idea of sending messages to the dead was TLK…and by “messages” I don’t think he meant supplicating to the dead for help. I think he meant asking Allah to send a message to the deceased loved ones. I don’t know if that happens…but Allah can do anything (nothing is impossible for Him).
Yes, I already know that Diwanay. But sending a message (salam/dua) is some form of communication.....even though it's not a two-way. I found the idea interesting.
Still it is not the same as talking to dead...:p
Still it is not the same as talking to dead...:p
Whatever Diwana. You can talk to anyone and anything....the dead, yourself, a brick wall, your imaginary friend. Talk all you want, get all your feelings out...doesn't mean that there will be a response from the other end.
And we call them ‘paagal’, No? 
Not necessarily. That’s oversimplifying things. People talk out loud to organize their thoughts, or to rehearse their words. And during stressful times, it’s not unusual for people to vent their feelings to someone (dead or alive) that’s not there. A person might talk to a deceased parent (not as a supplication) but as comfort…an outpouring of the heart.
I don’t think it’s abnormal unless it’s a frequent occurrence and gets in the way of your responsibilities and social interactions with others. It takes a lot more than just talking to yourself or talking to someone that’s not there to diagnose someone as crazy or pagal in the clinical sense.
Not necessarily. That's oversimplifying things. People talk out loud to organize their thoughts, or to rehearse their words. And during stressful times, it's not unusual for people to vent their feelings to someone (dead or alive) that's not there. A person might talk to a deceased parent (not as a supplication) but as comfort....an outpouring of the heart.
I don't think it's abnormal unless it's a frequent occurrence and gets in the way of your responsibilities and social interactions with others. It takes a lot more than just talking to yourself or talking to someone that's not there to diagnose someone as crazy or pagal in the clinical sense.
You mentioned about talking to dead people, walls and 'imaginary friends'. Simplifying or not. Temporary or consistent. That is 'Paagal Pun'. Period. You don't talk to things or dead individuals that is what I am emphasizing on.
Now you are 'philosiphying' above statement of yours.
Now, in pychology, it is considered normal to talk about things having feelings. Like in joke, poetry or being witty/emotional.
Example: When upset one may say...."Wherever I go there is rain. The rain must be following me!"
Nobody here suggested or even recommended that we try to get "help" from the dead or pray to them. I don't know where you're getting this idea from. The person who mentioned the idea of sending messages to the dead was TLK....and by "messages" I don't think he meant supplicating to the dead for help. I think he meant asking Allah to send a message to the deceased loved ones. I don't know if that happens...but Allah can do anything (nothing is impossible for Him).
there are only 2 reasons you talk to a dead person: A) you're crazy and you think that person's ghost or whatever is listening to you/is not dead B) you're looking for catharsis. in A), you need serious help. like medication help. B) you're on the verge of going into A and you need to talk to a real person.
OP said she talks to the dea ebcause it makes her feel lighter. why not talk to a real person. that's the help i'm talking about. i never mentioned anything about supplicating to a dead person because i am knowledgeable enough about my deen to know that's shirk. :)
there are only 2 reasons you talk to a dead person: A) you're crazy and you think that person's ghost or whatever is listening to you/is not dead B) you're looking for catharsis. in A), you need serious help. like medication help. B) you're on the verge of going into A and you need to talk to a real person.
Khumar....so far, I haven't talked to a dead person. Still, I don't find the idea all that unusual unless it's done to an extreme.
The "talking" doesn't necessarily mean that the person thinks that the dead can hear or that there are ghosts. It could just be a reflection that you miss the person and wish they were there. For example....let's say someone's mother passed away.....and they say, "Oh Ammi I wish you were here....and I wish you could see this." I don't think that's crazy. I see that as human nature.
Now once again...if it's done to an EXTREME....then it would be a greater cause for concern.
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^ Like in the movies they talk to a picture of dead person with a garland? Stop watching movies... :D
You mentioned about talking to dead people, walls and 'imaginary friends'. Simplifying or not. Temporary or consistent. That is 'Paagal Pun'. Period. You don't talk to things or dead individuals that is what I am emphasizing on.
Now you are 'philosiphying' above statement of yours.
Now, in pychology, it is considered normal to talk about things having feelings. Like in joke, poetry or being witty/emotional.
Example: When upset one may say...."Wherever I go there is rain. The rain must be following me!"
Diwana, I was just responding to your comment ,"Still it's not the same as talking to dead." I was only trying to point out talking (whether directly or indirectly) is a still considered communication....although it's not always mutual or reciprocated. That's what I meant.....and that's why I gave those examples before you made the pagal comment.
^ Like in the movies they talk to a picture of dead person with a garland? Stop watching movies... :D
Why only confine it to Hindus?
Like also in Pakistani dramas where a character has a lost a loved one and says out loud that "I wish you were here....I wish you could see this. Look at what you've left behind." The character is in an emotional state....and such "talking" only lasts a while......he/she is usually not depicted as a clinically crazy person. And there's not a garland in sight.
Stop being so tunnel visioned.
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Guys if you want to talk to the dead, Peer sahab can help you with that: http://www.paklinks.com/gs/video-gallery/424096-peer-haq-badshah-sarkar-will-cure-you.html
Why only confine it to Hindus?
Like also in Pakistani dramas where a character has a lost a loved one and says out loud that "I wish you were here....I wish you could see this. Look at what you've left behind." The character is in an emotional state....and such "talking" only lasts a while......he/she is usually not depicted as a clinically crazy person. And there's not a garland in sight.
Stop being so tunnel visioned.
Tunnel vision?
Where did I mention Indian? Placing garland on picture is not uncommon in Pakistan also.
It is shown in Pakistani Movies too when woman talks to dead "munnay Ke Abba'.
Regardless, the normal statement could be" Wish he/she was here to see this" Again here the person is not 'talking to' the dead.
You have conveniently forgot the other items like walls and imaginary friends you mentioned above. :)
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sighs no point in saying anything. it's like banging my head against a wall.
True. Might as well talk the wall…