i've never said that i don't know anything about islam, where have i said that? i've always said that i've studied it, i'm learning it still and trying to understand it, why would my questions be educational, especially online, i already have been studying the religion offline with somebody but these tiny issues do pop up in my mind and are ones that did bother me before but looking at my past threads and even this one, they are tiny issues that i kind of made mountains out of in my mind.
whatever difficult issues i'm dealing with in my life are none of your business and yet you keep assuming stuff about me. whether i revert or not is also only my own business.
I think what queer meant was that your questions and concerns don't feel like they are for the purpose of "learning" but more to make us (muslims) feel stuck. We answered your question and said "yes we respect other religions and we greet them" and you then asked "but quran says this...so why do you do this". It just seems like you want us to admit something, like "yes Islam promotes hate" or something. Regardless, I don't know your intentions and you haven't outright offended Islamic views so I suggest you take up these issues with someone who has Islamic knowledge. There are countless websites you can join and ask questions. Sunnipath.com is just one and it has a lot of Islamic scholors disscussing topics and will have answers for you from Quran and Hadith
^the muslim guy that i studied with does have a phd in islamic studies but i just needed somebody to clarify my understanding and my interpretation of the verses that i had difficulty with, he was the only one that i had to rely on, this is just to check his understanding with other muslims and since you said that sunnipath.com is a reliable forum with highly educated islamic scholars that know islam inside and out, i think i’ll trust you and just get my clarifications done there. thanks :k:
the muslim guy that i studied with does have a phd in islamic studies
here we go again.......
its not like you are asking some tricky stuff that need a phd to reply, you just are never happy with the real answers and keep coming back with the same old stuff.
I think what queer meant was that your questions and concerns don't feel like they are for the purpose of "learning" but more to make us (muslims) feel stuck.
Regardless, I don't know your intentions and you haven't outright offended Islamic views s
Those two statements sound contradictory to me. Its unfair to assume someone has malafide intentions when you don't know their intentions.
Those two statements sound contradictory to me. Its unfair to assume someone has malafide intentions when you don't know their intentions.
Did your eyes happen to miss the part where it says** "I THINK"** and "DON'T FEEL" - i.e personal thoughts. At the end I stated that since I am unaware of her intentions I suggested where she can seek answers.
Forget her intentions, you're intentions appear clear as glass to me!
saying "merry Christmas", "happy Diwali", "happy Hanakah" to promote peace and harmony, integrating into the larger society, islamically allowed or not?
depending on which interpretation I go by, the answer is different
It's not allowed, because by greeting them, you're approving of their festivals.
If anyone wants proof from scholars, I'll look for them.
[note]This thread is about 'Do we greet nonmuslim on their festival, so plz stik on the topic and if you guyz would like to share information on this topic then plz share it with references.[/note]
that’s what i’ve been told and have understood as being the case, why is there a conflict on how some see this issue?
and yes can you provide sources from scholars too please and if you could also the quranic verses
but the prophet in this hadith was talking about just a good morning or a salaam, promoting peace/harmony in that way, that’s what it looks like to me, but i’m asking about specifically religious festivals here.
I already wrote earlier there are different opinions about greeting or accepting invitation. Here i’ll quote two more hadith.
Book ‘Wedlock, Marriage (Nikaah)’ of Sahih Bukhari Hadith No. 108 and 179.
**Narrated Nafi’: Abdullah bin 'Umar said, "Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Accept the marriage invitation if you are invited to it.’ " Ibn 'Umar used to accept the invitation whether to a wedding banquet or to any other party, even when he was fasting. **
**Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah’s Apostle said, “If anyone of you is invites to a wedding banquet, he must go for it (accept the invitation) .”
**In both hadiths our Prophet ordered us to accept invitation but did not specify a limit as to whom invitation we should accept. We can tell u what we know as per our limited knowledge. Better u ask a profession Scholar who can guide u better.
I personally greet my non-muslim friends and wish them on their religious holidays. One of my best friend from India, always congrats and wishes me well in Muslim holidays. And i do same for him. We extend our hands for friendship based on mutual respect and understanding. We might not agree with each other on other stances but we do come together as human beings and friends who care of each other.!
I can't say much about the ruling but yes I do wish people Merry Christmas and Happy Diwali and Happy Hanukah. It is a gesture of goodwill and doesn't denounce your faith. I don't think there is any ruling against that in Islam and like my husband says, if you don't want to participate in the festivities by even greeting someone, then please don't take advantage of Christmas Sales either.
we cant wish them because their festivals are realted to false GOD if we wish them directly or indirectly we are approving their false GOD
said, ‘Accept the marriage invitation if you are invited to it.’ " Ibn 'Umar used to accept the invitation whether to a wedding banquet or to any other party, even when he was fasting. **