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Re: Do you ever wonder, where God is?

Thanks US Resident. Certainly, I agree with you that honour killings occur within the context of the larger Muslim culture rather than being precepts of Islam itself. But then, the question of exactly what defines " Islam " is a hot topic of debate amongst muslims themselves, isn't it? From an outsider's perspective, muslim is as muslim does. Tring to distance "real" Islam from muslim cultural practices is a clever tactic, but really in the end it is just an empty gesture - those individuals who commit these atrocities, just like the jihadist murderers who kill innocents with bombs, surely believe that their interpretation of muslim doctrines legitimates (indeed, requires) their actions.

So exactly what difference does it make? None at all. Muslim is as muslim does.

I don't understand the western cultural parallels you chose. Sure, I'm not happy about the rate of teenage pregnancies in some western countries. However, this rate tends to be primarily associated with socio-economic and other demographic factors in those countries, not religious ones. There are many western & other countries who have very low rates of teenage pregnancy.

Your insulting (and ignorant) allusion to western women "giving everyone a free ride" exposes your prejudices; actually, western women have the freedom to choose the partners they want in western societies - they don't need to give anyone a free ride at all. Whereas in muslim countries women have precious little choice, they will be stuck with a controlling domineering husband who believes that it's his god-given right to control his wife. I have some experience of this actually, I have visited muslim countries and spoken to people there, I have seen these things in practice.

I am not a Christian and I detest Christian hypocrisy as much as I detest it in Islam, so your Christian references miss the mark completely. And yes, I believe that we should indeed pin the blame for the shortcomings of christian clerics on christianity as a whole; in the sense that so-called "ordinary christian people" should accept the criticism that their faith is being hijacked by these wicked people, and therefore it's incumbent on " ordinary christians " to acknowledge these things and to purge them from their midst. And to their credit, they do acknowledge these things, and they are attempting to eradicate these things and to hold the perpetrators accountable; which is a damn sight more than muslims do about the (far more serious) crimes committed by muslims - again, we're talking about the murder of innocent people legitimated by muslim cultural values and doctrines.

Do you deny that respected muslim clerics support, promote and encourage acts of "Jihad" (my translation - MURDER) against westerners?

Which religion besides Islam contains the contemptible concepts of fatwa and jihad? You can argue all you like about the semantics of these words. The fatwa I'm talking about is the kind issued against Salman Rushdie for publishing a book deemed blasphemous - apparently it's ok to kill people who offend your religious sensibilities - very civilised behaviour.

Why don't you try answering my questions instead of defending yourself by attacking the west? What's the point of that? We are not suicide bombing buses, schools, restaurants in muslim countries. We are not issuing fatwas against muslim cartoonists or authors for saying insulting things. What gives muslims the right to behave in such an abominable way ?

The arrogance and cowardice of the muslim world is apparent in its refusal to acknowledge the evil in its midst.

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