do you believe in the holocaust..

So what scale was it?

There were 7 Million Jews in Europe in 1939 and in 1945, there were 1 Million.

Poland had 3 Million Jews in 1939 and in 1945 there were less than 3,000.

France, Denmark, Russia and other occupied countries saw their Jewish population wiped out.

Only England, Jews saved by Raoul Wallenberg, and Russia (those areas which the germans did not capture) saw the Jews survive and they numbered 1 million.

So I ask again....what are you disputing?

I am pointing out your biased nature.

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I am clearly disputing the numbers… :chai:

Theres no way hitler killed off that many… even with gas chambers and all… even half that numbers too high.

Not that i deny it’s not a bad thing… i wont deny it’s evil.

But i wont be an idiot and listen to all this spoon fed Zionist **** about so called facts and figures.

Besides they have massacred about that many people themselves… over the last four decades of illegal Isreali wars.

What proof do you have that Hitler didn’t kill that many?

I have meticulous German record keeping, census records, graves, gold teeth, pairs of shoes, bodies, etc…that confirm that 6 Million were killed.

Even Noam Chomsky, Finkelstein, and Geroge Galloway acknowledge that 6 Million Jews were killed.

See the problem with people like you is that you have 2 Dimensional Thinking.

To you acknowledging Jewish suffering means you are taking away from the Palestinians.

So the more you acknowledge Jewish suffering, the less concerned you are about the Palestinians.

That is an absolute nonsensical line of thinking but sadly many Pakistanis and Muslims suffer from that.

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^ Look unlike you i have seen no proof… Okay the day i see conclusive proof maybe i will change my thinking. :chai:

Untill then i will go by what i see, and what i see is zionists using the Holocaust as an excuse to persecute others… surely if they suffered so much…

They would think twice before waging illegal wars and playing the victim card.

If Isreal fought back against Saddam Hussien i would support them because Saddam fired missiles on them from Soviet built Scud launchers back in 1991.

But what excuse do they have for thier recent actions on ordinary people…

I never saw the holocaust but i saw first hand Isreali troops using white phosphorous.

It’s justified for you to see Pakistani’s as narrow minded but the truth is none of them have seen the museums at Auswitchz, but daily they see the Palestinian suffereing and they think…

Heck why would they do this to another race?

What do you say to that… Mr

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I don’t know why ppl here are trying to JUSTIFY the freaking holocaust!!! :smack:

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I’m not justifying it i’m just saying it shouldn’t be taken for gospel while other things go on without question.

If theres one thing i dont do it’s double standards. :nono:

If you deny the holocaust and don't believe that 6 million jews were massacred, instead justify the killing then please don't complain about nobody giving a rat's ass about Muslims suffering around the world.

worst jewish lie ever
60,00,000 killed

not 60,00,001 and not 59,99,999.

jhoot bhi aisa jo ser cherh ker bolay.

White sodomites killed 30 million of one another during WW2 and instead of being accountable for the judo-christian terrorism, they go on and produce holocaust crap so that no one questions them about their atrocities but makes the rest of the world to act defensive and then they expect from the rest of the world to believe in their crap at gun point.
very funny

:shireen:

muslims are suffering in few places cause they lack unity.
denying holocaust crap has nothing to do with it.

I say you should become Ahmedinijad’s Speech Writer

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^ :hmmm: I woundn’t mind that… i’ll take it as a compliment for to be a speechwriter for such a great political figure… is surely an achievment for anyone. :champ:

Seriously though i will only go by what i see and believe to be true.

I have yet to see conclusive proof of 9/11 which happened right before my eyes but has been explained in a most pathetic way… there are so many unanswered questions and grey areas on that recent event and it’s not just me asking the question but thousands of Americans as well…

Can i even begin to believe what happened sixty years ago…? If it happened that way then it’s really very sad… but the way the zionists are profiting from it is almost tantamount to creating the same thing on another people.

I am going through this in my head and it makes perfect sense to me… I was in Lebanon in 2006. I was in the West bank some time earlier and when i remmber the Oslo accords what a different world it was…

All this i have seen with my own eyes and i have seen the countless transgressions by the zionist state in the last 20 years… i am not going to believe a word from them until first they respect international law and human decency.

If they do not then i willcontinue to doubt the holocaust even more becuase it’s on them to prove they were treated bad, not on me to believe them and give them a carte blanche to go around exterminating others.

Muslims are also guilty of crimes too… i accept that without doubt.

I am from among the most persecuted and we were tormented by fellow Muslims… but for all my openess i am always suprised by many things.

For example if i was to merely suggest that the murderers of Imam Hussien were Kaffir… many a Saudi would declare me a criminal.

And if i were to deny the holocaust the Isreali would lock me up as a criminal too.

Then in desperation when someone like me resists both extremes i am the villian…

What utter…****!

But this my friend is the world we live in.

Peace to you.

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^^ in other words...u dont know ****

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^ your not showing much more knowldege yourself Amigo :champ:

That makes two of us :omg:

Well the other day I was thinking that holocaust is real but aint 6 million number too high.:hmmm: Where can you bury so many human beings. Like if they killed 2 or 3 million but its media which can easily exaggerate the numbers.

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^ Exactly my point.

Besides not all the victims were Jewish! Communists, socialists and other political and religous groups were sent to the same concentration camps.

But somehow we only hear about the Jews. :konfused:

Surely the Jews make up only a fraction of the 6 million, or are there many more millions of dead… who totalled more than jews but are not mentioned :5:?

Surely there was this quote floating in my mind from a fellow who said.

“First they came for the communists and i did not speak out for i was not a communist…”
and then it ends with “they came for me and there was no one to speak out for me”

Why the Jews have hijacked the whole bandwagon?

If a holocaust denier can be imprisoned then i say we are much better.

We do not imprison those who deny the finality of Prophet Muhammad Sallalaho Alyhi Wassalam we only kill those who make fun of him.

So it’s on the Jews to prove thier case… i am yet to be convinced.

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mr mercenary2k and his support for zionists. nothing new there :hehe:

hey post up those “meticulous german record keeping” that you go on about. we’d love to see!

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^ Germans were so meticulous at record keeping they lost half thier supplies and half thier weapons during operation Barbarossa. :omg:

Worse the resistance in france tampered with thier logistics so much that on D-Day the poor jerries were in chaos. :smack:

So Mercenary2k, pray tell me of these meticulous records and prove that they were not tampered at any point by the zionists :5:

I believe that people were rounded up based on their religion, ethnicity, political views and illnesses and put in camps and forced to work. They were treated like no human being should ever be treated in those camps, often they were killed. However I don’t believe that people were systematically killed in gas chambers.

After WWII it was claimed that there were 22 camps which had gas chambers in them. After the Americans however were given the chance to investigate and examine the camps, they were able to rule out 16 of them and it was 6 camps with gas chambers from then on. That being in Poland. Maybe even more “gas chambers” can be ruled out, however the gas chambers in Poland have not been made available for experts to investigate. So yeah…

The soap being made out of humans has been proven to be wrong. The lamps made out of human skin has been proven to be wrong. The shrunken heads BS has been proven to be wrong. Yet the majority still believes in such myths…Why don’t they let experts from around the world investigate the gas chambers in Poland?

About the numbers, after the WWII it was claimed that in Auschwitz alone 4.7 million people were killed. However in 1989 the Auschwitz State Museum released a new number which was 1.5 Million. If you go to the website of the US holocaust memorial museum the number of Jews who died in Auschwitz is 960,000.

And the camp in Auschwitz was the largest. Yet people keep using the six million number for overall deaths of Jews for some reason…

If I would say that publicly here in Germany, they could put me in jail. LOL

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^so to cut it all short around 60,70 jews were killed in all since they are decreasing the figures after evey 10,15 years by leaps and bounds so its certain that in 2020 they would admit that only 60 jews died in while ww2 and not 6 freakin million.