are we supposed to beleive the way it happened from the jews point of view, is denying it a crime, as it is in certain european countries.
whats your personal views on the holocaust, and was it as significant as its made out. why isnt the plight of muslims made out this way.?
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.. dont think Jewish veterans and suvivors wud quite see it that way nadz....Islam teaches us tolerance..... do unto others what you as you would have do unto you...
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I believe it's not a hoax but it's certainly ratcheted up more than the massacres of Muslims.
At least thats my personall view... Afterall the Jews lost but he zionists gained from it.
I feel sorry for the Jews but i feel more sorry for the Muslims.
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Faris hun... I second your last line..jo Musalmaanon pe zulem hue hai for centuries... Allah swt Ummat ko himmat aur taqwa dein ke intefaaq se Islam ko mazboot banaie and Islam ka naam har jege pe mehfooz rakke ameen
I believe it's not a hoax but it's certainly ratcheted up more than the massacres of Muslims.
At least thats my personall view... Afterall the Jews lost but he zionists gained from it.
I feel sorry for the Jews but i feel more sorry for the Muslims.
Doesnt make any sense
Holocaust was a crime that occurred against Jewish people in Europe in which of the 7 million Jews in Europe....6 million were killed.
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sorry, whats the difference between a jew and a zionist? I have heard the phrase before, but dont know much on it.
what is astonsihing`about the jews is that they have gone from oppressed to oppressor, while muslims have gone from bad to worse, if they can stand up abnd be united, and theres less of them , why cant we, the 2 billion muslims. why cant we end our own torture.
whose to blame for the muslim plight..jews? america? THE WEST? other muslims?
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.. nadz... in my very humble opinion.... we ( Muslims) are our own worst enemy........and kaafirs/ non believers simply exploit us....
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Poppies your spot on.
Mr Mercenary 2k
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Doesnt make any sense
Holocaust was a crime that occurred against Jewish people in Europe in which of the 7 million Jews in Europe....6 million were killed.
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The Jews have a long and well known history. But lets get one thing straight here, Jews were massacred almost exclusively on two occasions in thier history.
First time was 70AD by the Romans and to be honest had i been alive back then i would have supported the Jews... they were then massacred by Hitler in the last century.
However since the Exodus and even in the Crusades the Jews suffered but no where in history is there an example even close to that of the massacres that take place against Muslims.
Muslims or so called Muslims did not spare the lives of Imam Hussain and the 72 at Karbala... and since before and after whole tribes and fammilies have been massacred some by fellow Mulsims and some by kaafirs.
Muslims i believe sufered more and sacrificed more than any other faith... i dare any one to challenge that.
I have vast smpathy for the true majority of Jewish people, but they like the Muslims are exploited by the elite few.
The Jews have zionists like we are plagued with Wahabies.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLZ…
So you are saying that 72 people being killed in Karabala is a greater crime than 6 million being killed in the Holocaust or 1 million being killed by Romans in 70 AD?
hahahahahahaha 
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^ I’m saying that if we didn’t spare 72 at Karbala including the founding sons of the faith then who has been spared among us…
You choose to interpet my words like a halfwit… i dont understand where you learned maths…
If you kill a million or so every thousand years or so… or you kill hundred every day which total comes to more.
72 is not far off a hundred and imagine that rate on a daily basis 
Now tell me are two big massacres gonna create more deaths or are one small massacre every day going to total more.
Besides none of the Jews today can blame Muslims for thier plight, but many Muslims can blame Jews.
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^ I’m saying that if we didn’t spare 72 at Karbala including the founding sons of the faith then who has been spared among us…
You choose to interpet my words like a halfwit… i dont understand where you learned maths…
If you kill a million or so every thousand years or so… or you kill hundred every day which total comes to more.
72 is not far off a hundred and imagine that rate on a daily basis
Now tell me are two big massacres gonna create more deaths or are one small massacre every day going to total more.
Besides none of the Jews today can blame Muslims for thier plight, but many Muslims **can blame Jews./**QUOTE]
whats the isrealis view on the palestinians…
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Most Isrealis want a joint two part solution but the senior zionists want total control over the land and will gladly exterminate the palestinains to get it… :no:
As for Palestinains they are angry becuase they are getting the stick from Jews for things they did not do.
The Jews should learn thier lesson and stick up for the weak against imperialism but they are a stooge to imperial desires… Just like many Muslims.
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You can chose to be ignorant and deny it but the facts are there. Yes more than 4 million jews died. But the thing I liked about Hitler was that he didn't kill all jews because he can let the future generations know how cruel and greedy the jews are.
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^ Theres no doubting the Jews bring a lot on themselves but please can we not stoop to thier level and support massacres 
I would rather the Jewish nation was beaten in a fair fight… and by the looks of it thats gonna happen again soon.
Isreal is not the false power it once was… the entire arab world failed back in the 50’s and 60’s but then come 2006 and i witnessed first hand the destruction of the Isreali millatary by the Hezbolah and by the JRA anf other valiant defenders of Lebanon who put paid to the false myth of Zionist supremacy.
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Yes it happened and I believe it had taken place.
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I find that a lot of Muslims are keen on Holocaust denial because the Holocaust was the main driver for Israel's creation. There is a feeling that if Israel's creation is shown to be based on a falsehood, then it is a victory for Muslims.
That is a falsehood. Even if the world began to believe that Israel was created from a myth, that would not bring peace in the Middle East closer; it would not make Israel "go away".
In fact, Holocaust denial is self-harming to Muslims in the west. In Europe, the Jews, despite having European values and trying to fit in to European society in all ways, were scapegoated for problems because they were "different".
Muslims in Europe are far more "different" than Jews ever were. Muslims in Europe are, through demographics, changing the future of Europe, its politics, its social values in a way that Jews never could. We already see Europe pushing back against the growing influence of its Muslim community. Burqa bans, hijab bans, minaret bans.
The most likely target of any future Holocaust in Europe will be its Muslim community. Supporting Holocaust denial erodes Europe's guilt about persecution of minorities, and brings such a scenario closer and closer.
sorry, whats the difference between a jew and a zionist? I have heard the phrase before, but dont know much on it.
Jews are people who follow the religion Judaism, or who are from the ethnic group that follows that religion.
Zionism is the political/religious belief that Jews should form and run a nation in Palestine, which they historically did until defeated by the Romans and scattered throughout the Roman Empire.
Until the 1940s, most Jews rejected Zionism and believed that Jews had made immense progress into settling into European society. They believed that the historical discrimination they had suffered in Europe was almost over.
The Holocaust gave immense influence to the Zionist minority, and enabled them to easily convince most Jews to struggle to establish Israel. Now, a majority of Jews express Zionist views, as well as a number of Protestant Christian churches, particularly in the USA. (They believe that Jews are God's misguided but chosen people, and God wants them to live in Palestine).
However, there are many Jews in the world who reject Zionism, including both secular Jews who view Zionism and Israel's actions as unjust, as well as religious Jews (the Naturei Kartnei group) who view that the Jewish expulsion from Palestinian was a manifestation of God's wrath and that Jews have no right to return there until God forgives them and sends the Messiah to lead them all back.
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Holocaust was real and funded by the Zionists. Hitler was just a tool. 6 millions Jews might of died but who knows the real facts and figures when they deny any further investigation to take place? Don't forget the non-Jews who died including gypsies, christians and others. Also don't forget the 50 million in total who died in world war 2. Also don't forget the Zionist driving force which led Stalin to massacre 20 million. Nobody dare question Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I wonder where the tears are for them? What about the 80 million black slaves America murdered? Where's the cry for them? But hey these are just numbers to us.
Zionists got what they wanted, they got their state and raped America after raping Europe. Results are seen today.
Holocaust was real and funded by the Zionists. Hitler was just a tool.
lolz.. one more joke of the day.. everyone is tool in your world, everyone is doing conspiracy against you and your kind..
just funny.. isn't internet/tv/phone ..is also conspiracy in your world?
why you even bother to use ...
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Of course we believe in it. We can read about it, hear the stories from concentration camp guard, survivors, and soldiers who saw it. Jews were not the only community that suffered, gypsies, the handicapped, homosexuals all suffered. But Jews were the largest group targeted.
People need to stop associating Zionists with Jews. I know it seems wrong, considering Israel is a Jewish state, but the Jews certainly did NOT orchestrate the murder of so many of their own. In America I know of more Christians who are Zionists than Jews. And don't forget, there are more Christians than Jews.