Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
Ofcourse we still need him! We are two pacers short, you bunch of Shoaib hatin’ God damn sheep!
Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
Yes it would be nicer to have him around still but now he knows that this team is trying to live without him.
Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
Man, was that a slap on my face or what!? Oh well, a chapair has never felt so good :).
Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
haha I edited my post afterreading your other post :D. You can do it if you wish.
But I wish I could have felt same joy but Taufeeq proved me right.
Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
It’s ok. It ended well, so everything is good. Now if only Shoaib Akhtar can be made captain 
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Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
Seriously, I don’t “Hate” Shoaib. He is a great bowler, and when playing full he is a real treat to watch. He should play a game only when he is fully fit and not leave a game without finishing it. He should stop focussing on 165km/hr, but target the batsmen and stumps.
Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
who is shoaib actor.well dont know abt him but pakistan and myself shahid afridi for sure.
Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
afridi should be made captain of pakistan team
Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
Enough of Shoaib bashing for one day., this time if I flip, you ^ you all be responsible for collateral damage, I mean it, :-|:k:
Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
We need Shoaib Akhtar because he's the best Pakistani bowler. His bowling has been absolutely consistent even against the likes of Hayden, Martyn and co. and that's why he has been among the top 5 rated bowlers in the world.
Not to forget that having Akhtar in team will make Sami a much better bowler because of too many factors to list here.
Calling for his head is the exact same short-term memory issue (that plagues some Pakistan cricket fans) which resulted in people badmouthing Younis Khan when he was the most successful Pakistan batsman in Australia and had a 100 in the match before that.
Shoaib Akhtar is an absolutely vital member of Pakistan team. A test bowling attack of Shoaib, Sami, Kaneria and Shabbir (or Gul) with Afridi as the backup bowler should win a few games for Pakistan.
Having said that, the one thing that Akhtar has to do is to stay match fit. If he can't play three tests in a series without limping away after a while during the series, let alone during a match, then he should not be there in the team. In that regards, it has been a good decision by Akhtar to hold back and make sure of his fitness before making a comeback.
Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
This is what all Pakistan cricket fans ask for. 
Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
Unfortunately, most comments I read about him go along the lines that doubts his commitment as a team player. It has become cute to call him Shoaib Actor or to say that Pakistan team will be weaker when he comes back or that he is not needed at all.
These comments are what I find ridiculous.
The only commitment Shoaib Akhtar lacks is to his fitness, and that's one area the whole Pakistan team management should work on to improve. Such a course of action is required because Pakistan team needs a bowler of his calibre.
Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
Why does Pakistan side become weaker when he comes back? Because it is very likely that Pakistan will be playing with 10 players as he breaks down frequently.
Why is he called "Actor"? Cuz many a times he was "injured" later to be found clubbing/skiing. People can then only question his commitment.
Why after Shoaib was out of team, everyone saw a very spirited and fighting team? I wonder.
Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
Pakistan got thrashed by Australia. It would have happened that way, whether Shoaib Akhtar played or not. Inzamam made a total of 3-4 in both innings of the only test match he played over there. Razzaq felt sick (made 4 runs from an 84 ball inning) missed test match and then came back in the ODI series, just like Inzamam.
At least Shoaib Akhtar played and tried more than that yet, all the 'shirking away' claims were levelled against him.
I have seen very spirited and well-knit team even when he is playing. Don't forget the test match Pakistan won in NZL last year, when they gave 170 run lead in the first innings and yet came back to win the test by 7 wickets. Akhtar completely shattered the famed opening partnership of Australian team.
I agree with you that he needs to stay fit. It's just that the vitriol and anger directed towards him is as unjust as was the case when Younis Khan was the target.
Fact is, a lot of Pakistani fans need reasons behind their team's defeats. They can't handle the simple fact that their team lost because it was outplayed. There always has to be a reason, whether the match is fixed or whether there's infighting in team or something else. We always need scapegoats because we can't swallow our pride.
Had this match gone bad, Sami and Inzamam would been raked through burning coals and there would be a public outcry about bringing Akthar back.
It's the same with Indian fans. They like to find excuses at all costs, whehter it's the unjust Bucknor or their team's mental strength or what not. It's hardly ever the opposing team that gets praise for a well deserved victory.
To make long story short, our culture demands scapegoat over every failure. Shoaib Akthar with his outspoken nature gives a perfect opportunity - to the PCB members, the team management and the fans.
Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
We need Shaoib,,, people who think otherwise are delusional. Without Shaoiby we will have to battle India to drawn series, with him we can win series. The man is a straight up match winner no question about it.......
Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
If it were limited to one series, I would have no problems at all with him … it goes much much beyond “one” series. Anyway, I’ll stop Shoaib bashing for now as he is not even part of the ODI team
Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
^ Well yeah you should because we have been to this road before (many a times) :D
** deepblue** You have made some valid points there. We as a nation do tend to look for scapegoats and Shoaib has got some unwarranted critcism as a result. But to be honest, I am fed up with Shoaib's bashing plus Younis bashing (yeah even before his heroics before this series) so I would rather stop it for now resisting the temptation to argue with some of the points you raise. Because it will create another endless cycle with regular shoaib bashers and defenders :D
Re: Do we need Shoaib Actor?/ Not a certainty for the Indian tour.
If only I could replace “Remember the Alamo” with “Remember the Calcutta”. Really. Anyway, Sami looked good in this test match; my only concern is that he might not be able to keep it up and start throwing pies again .