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come on...it,s serious talk here..
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I am ghost of Haq 
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believe in allah and you will be fine.... we shouldnt put too much pressure on our little brains
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we need to train our brain before ae try to solve these issue.
a orentel(from china) scintest did a huge research on an antity which is more like energy presense in universe....on earth.... that entity could be write in front of you looking at you.
Sadly you and me can't even understand those equations/terminology due our little knowledge of physica and math.
so brother those issues are morescince/physics then religion.
Its a jinn telling you. so belieave it or i will haunt you.
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Thanks SLAVE OF ALLAH bhaii and i think one more thing and for all of u above also that SATAN Is a JINN so how can u not believe that jinns exist.SATAN is jinn and makes us do whatever he wants and we follow him blindly and MAY ALLAH guide us all ameen..so what u think jinn are all around us and they make waswasa in our heart.
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All elements that make up a human body can be found in the ground (earth).
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You clearly said that "my goal in life is to learn Elm E Rijal...which is a shia doctrine. And you also said "I believe all Imams were Shia"...
Do you want me to quote from your posts....?
If you are not Shia then I apologize. But only for that. I believe your skewed understanding of the Quran is infact Anti-Quran. Becuase you base your translation and understanding from an abstract learning.
Your views don't jive with any mainstream views. You deny hadeeth.
What else can we call your doctrine then? Anti-Hadeeth, Anti Quran and Pro Shia. So if you are thinking of converting...just be clear about it...
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Well i said all imam was shia its mean tht i dont belive them.See wht they did see the tafasir.yea i had mentioned tht my goal of life see the Books and tafaseer u will easily understand tht.the whole words tht translating the ayaat were not muslim concept.most of the concept hve been drived from bible.i m yet another time mentioning here neither i m sunni nor i m shia.i m just a muslim who belive in Allah and belive in Only holly quran and i always say to guppies and friends bhai do read arabic language if u want to study and understand quran.see all my post main kabhi kisi ke concept ka mazaq nahi urata i just mention the exact meanning and understaning of quran.Main tu sirf yea kahta hoo ke Quran hazart e insaan ke islah k liye aya tha.Koi chistani mafoom lay kar nahi aya.Why most of scientist dindt accept the islam because of riwayaat and misconneption which is spread by our Ulllema.See the words of Albert Einstein Stephen William Hawking Darwin.All belive tht there is 1 Ila who is controlling all universe and our mind cant imagine the powers of God and All universe hve been made for humans
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So satan comes and say something with his voice?if u say no then u hve to understand the meanning of satan and jinn ibliees.No body hve seen either of them but do make stories see ur self u hve both powers.Do good things and do bad thing ?Agar yea kahoo ke iblees jinno main sa tha tu Allah nay sajday ka hookoom Malaika ko dia tha Iblees ko nahi agar is nay mana kar dia tu is ka matlab hai ke Woh humhari hi ek power hai jo humhe boraay kaam ke taraf lay jaty hai.warna bahkayee iblees aur hisaab hoo insaan se tu Akhiraat ka concept ke koi means nahi rakhtay.
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Sure ! See the jinns like you have seen them before.
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zara doobara explain karo
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Main Amaal ke hisaab ke baat kar rha tha ke agar insaaan koi makhlooq bahkaty hai aur woh is ke Bahkanay se ghalaat kam karta hai tu is main Insaan becharay ka kia kasoor.is se hisaab kitaab hona hi nahi chiye.Is se rooze akhraat main Jahnoom main daal daina insaaf hi nahi.Agar Iblees Ek sifaat hai Yani Malaika tu insaan se hisaab kitaab ke baat theek hai.Yani ke jo sajda kaha gaya tha Malaika ko woh bhi kar rahi hai aur Iblees bhi yani insaan ke hi sifaat hi main se woh ek Malaika hai.is nay insaan ke ataat karnay se inkaar kia tu woh inkaar karnay waloo main se hoo gaya.Is liye is ko
Kaana minal Jinne kaha gaya yani woh jinoo main se tha yani insaan ke choopy hoye sifet hai jo ke os ko booray kamoo ke taraf raagyeeb karty hai.
Quran nay Iblees aur shaitaan dono ko differenciate kia hai.Ibeeles Malaika hai yani ke qoowaat aur shaitaan woh jo insaan ke shakaal main bahkata hai yani woh shakaas Jis per iblees e Maada Ghalib Ajaye.Jaisay ke Bush Aur dosray sahib e Iktadaar Leader jo ke Allah ke qawaneen se Sarkashi baratay hai Jaisy Firoon
Abb iblees Ko malaika hi kaha hai abb insaat ke sifaat app ke samnay jaab bhi app koi ghalaat kaam karty hai App ke dono sifaat app se mukhatib hooty hai.Iblleese Maada App ko borayee ke taraf raqib karta hai.(daikhain 18/50,7/11).Bus itna samjh lain ke Iblees insaan ke ek Khaaslaat hi hai
Jahaan taak Jinnat ke baat quran nay in ke liye min Qabli ka lafaz dia hai Yani Hazaraat insaan se pahlay Allah nay ek Makhlooq paida ke Jo aag se Banayee hoye thi.is main haararaat bardaht karnay ke taqqaaat thi.Jis ke Qayaamaat Barpa Hoo chuki hai.abb app ko jinn kahi nazar nahi ayee ga.Allah nay is ka koi naam nahi rakha is liye is makhlooq ko jinn hi kaha.Jahaan Jinnat ka zikar aya hai woh reff yea hai(55/15, 15/27, 27/17)
Agar Jaisay ke Hum is makhlooq ke tasveer khainchtay hai tu Allah quran main is ko zaroor mention kar daita.
Abb yaad rakiye ga ke naboowaat khataam hoo gaye hai abb koi rasool aur nabi nahi ayee ga.Is liye sirf quran hi haq hai.is liye Allah nay quran ke hifazaat ke zamaydari liye.Quran Eins ka aur jinn ka lafaz aya hai.Eins shari abadi ko kahtay hai Jinn Kaahnaa Badoosh ko jo ke Village aur dihaat main rahtay hai.hazaraat Sulemaan Ke pass jo jinnat thai woh Village aur Kaahnaa badoosh aur Dosray area se ayee hoye insaan hi thai.Jo in main se sarkashi karta tha App(Suleman pbuh)in ko zanjeroo main Jakaar dia karty thai.
agar woh jinnat aisay thai jo ke Kutab e riwayaat main miltay hai
Tu makhi machar baan kar fly kion nahi kar gaye.
bataya jaata hai ke jinnat ke khooraak Hadi Goobar Aur leed hai.Lakin zara Ghoor kar lain na kahin se Hadiyaa Ghayaab hooty hai na Goobar na leed.Agar aisa hoota ke in ke Khoraak Yea chizain hai tu Qasi is ke shikayaat zaroor karty.
Qutoob e riwayat nay in ka bhut hi chistani mafoom paish kia hai
Quran nay Iblees ko Malaika kaha hai.qutab e riwayaat yea kahty hai ke woh jinn tha Zammen ke chapay chapay per sajday karta tha jis malaika ka sardaar bana dia gaya.is chistani mafoom is liye paish kia gaya ke quran is ko malaika ka zamray laa raha hai jab in se sawaal kia jata hoo ga tu Woh Ahl e iran walay Quran ke taleem tu laty hi nahi riwaatein garh Garh ko is ko Hazoor se Munsalik kar dia.
Practicall life main app ko jinn nazar nahi aye ga haan jinat daikhnay hai saudia chalay Jayeen wahaan ek Qabila Bani jin
Aur woh jinn kion hai khud jaa kar daikh liye ga ke Woh Jinnat is waja se ke Sher se door daraz Area main rahtay hai
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No doubt SATAN is a jinn in Surah Kahf ayat or sign 50(I wont write verses anymore now:) ) . Well Jinn do exist and no denial of it ahadith is proven that.
Now yes waswasa in our heart Al Nas surah the very meaning of it gives you they can create waswasa but Satan can by Jinn as well as Human i think so its in Surah 6 aya 128 or 28. I am not sure.
Jinns exist another proof when Prophet recited the Quran the Jinns as in the Quran did talk amongst themselves what a beautiful recitation this is. Anyways even doing your prayer time this is again Sahih hadeeth from Sahih Bukhari, that there is a Satan called as KANZAAB who stand upright and blows waswasa into your years.
Other observable phenonmenad during the time of Salah is that mind tends to deviate on such things, and thoughts which havent hit your mind during the time of Salah. Well other than tht Allaah knows the best.
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I used to see lot jinns when I was too young! Everyday in my dreams! Every night while passing underneath the neighbour's neem tree! We used to share tales of jinns with all our class fellows and all mohallah freinds! They all had seen jinns up early in the morning!
But all of them (jinns) disappeared when I grew up! I do not see them anymore in my nightmares!
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^You know i used to play w ith them, here we are talking from Perspective of Quran and Hadith.
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Of course Jinn exist. Allah swt speaks to man AND 'JINN' in the Quran. Thry are another creation of Allah which we cannot see. Iblis is also a powerful jinn, if we say jinn do not exist then we can say shaitaan doesn't exist.
Read Surah Jinn...a whole surah dedicated the the Jinn
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read surah jinn and u will know that jinn is not a part of u…
2 kitaabein parrh letay hain or aalim ban jaatay hain… :rollleyes:
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jee janaab suraay jin app parh lain Muhammad (pbuh)ko wahi ke zariye batay gaya tha ke ek Jin(yani khaana badosh)ke jamaat quran soon kar gaye thi.jo Allah aur Quran Aur Muhammad(pbuh)per Eman lay ayee thi.In ko elim Buhraan ke shoolay parhtay thai kion ke woh yea kah kar apni qoom ko gumrah kartay thai ke hum asmaan se Khabrain Laty hai.Phir is ka iqrar kia ke abb aisa nahi hoo sakta.Soochiye Quran nay kitna bara kaam kia Haq ayaa aur Batil Mit gaya.Aur yea bhi kah rahi hai ke Eins ke jamaat in ke pass pahna laty thi warna Humhe tu chistani mafoom se yea hi maloom hoota hai sab jin se darty hai Bhut taqaatwar hooty hai.Yani ke jo jin ka zikar hoo raha hai woh bhi insaan hai yahaan kisi aisi makhlooq ka ziqar nahi hooa jo Aag se banaye hoye thi
Main app ko yea bhi bata doo is ayaat main yea bhi hai Eins Jinnat ke pass jaa kar panha laty thi tu janaab jis chistani jinnaat ka app soochty hai woh Trees per rahty hai on ke apni koi Building ghar waqaira nahi hooty tu batain woh in ke pass kaisay rahtay chahye tu kisi Alim se pooch liye ga woh Alaag baat hai ke woh kahin se is per riwayaat lay ayeen ke woh in ko asmaanoo per lay jaty thai
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Imran i dont understand why u asked the question through this thread, and your explanation is something.
Firstly do you believe Jinn exists yes or no. If they exist, then waht are they made up of. Can the jinns deviate the Human this should me more then enough.
You are trying to prove something and reading ur urdu writing, just pisses me off, this is my opinion thanks.
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^ the surah clearly mentions ins and jinn as two separate beings....
and one who seeks refuge in jinn, the word used is "ya'oozoon" which is similar to what u say "aaoozu billah"....
so if to take panaah from jinn that makes jinn as human, then if u seek panaah with Allah, r u implying that Allah is also some sort of human????
if u try to read these pervezi ppl then u will believe in such things that jinn is not existent and they r bacteria or whatever....
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and one who seeks refuge in jinn, the word used is "ya'oozoon" which is similar to what u say "aaoozu billah".... so if to take panaah from jinn that makes jinn as human, then if u seek panaah with Allah, r u implying that Allah is also some sort of human????
if u try to read these pervezi ppl then u will believe in such things that jinn is not existent and they r bacteria or whatever....
But Allah is everywhere we can take Panah with Allah Bhai.But how we take panah with jin.All universe hve been Made by 1 Ila tht is Allah.
Whom r u reading They all being Human(Jis Mullah ka bhi zikar kr loo).Main tu quran ke baat kar raha tha