Sallam,
Ok so if you think I have a particular interest in the politics of India, you’re wrong, I want to know the social, emotional/human aspect of my above question from Indian Muslims.
So I was at a gathering for South Asian Muslims and they were a bunch of Pakistani and Indian girls eating and chatting away. The topic went towards where they were born, some were saying India and Pakistan etc etc., then it went to little aspects like the clothes we wear, so like “Where did you get your clothes from?” and then it went to what country people thought we came from etc. Some girls were like I’ve been asked if I was etc etc., then one Indian Muslim girl was like ‘I’ve been told I look Pakistani’. She was truth be told fairer than the other girls. And I detected longing in the mannerisms and talk of the Indian Muslim girls (?) Most were wearing Pakistani stuff anyway and I felt (biased view?) perhaps there was a culture of longing to be associated to Pakistan, not because its the epitome of beauty or whatnot but because it solely identifies itself as Muslim as well as a south Asian country, where I guess the Indian Muslims have to share their identity with Hindus. (Not that its a bad thing - so don’t shoot me).
What are your thoughts and experiences?? And what do Pakistanis feel with their interaction with Indian Muslims?
Truth be told, If my family was somehow caught on the other side of the conflict i.e. India, I would not be happy , just my opinion…
Born Muslim, raised in secular India. Educated in a Christian School and college, live in a cosmopolitan city, have more non Muslim / non practicing Muslim friends than Muslim. I consider myself an atheist leaning rationalist, and I would rather be dead than wish to be Pakistani. (No offence to Pakistan, but I am an Indian through and though, and Indian first before anything else, Sorry).
I had a few indian friends from india.They were all proud of being indians and they do not wish to be pakistani.The reason is wherever we live we get used to it.They live with hindus and it is normal for them but sorry to say for me eating,living or having a kind of close relationship with non- muslims feel awkward..they are much like us specially muslims..And i was in an online relationship with a muslim indian guy and i had to leave him just because he was indian ..but the fact is his family was v religious and the place where they lived was like pakistan..But if they are given any kind of hard time living their respective lives they would definately want freedom for religion and yeah the basic reason y pak came into being…
Indian pakistani culture is very similar? What defines ‘pakistani clothes’ fashions across the borders are very similar nowdays. Ive not personally come across indians wanting to be pakistani however growing up in a pakistani community when younger i would find it odd when people would ask me how can i be muslim coz my mums half pakistani, half african as ‘muslims are pakistani’ LOL
Not really. no matter what , one’s loyalty to religion and homeland can never be compared. they are two very different things in my opinion. just because someone is a muslim , why would they not feel loyal towards their motherland?
We have Christians living in Pakistan, you reckon they dont feel pakistani and have more loyalty with , say, the french?
I respect your right to feel proud to be Indian (though extreme nationalism can sometimes be a negative thing), but what you said above is just plain rude.
Yet..ppl like muff..sign in to this forum..which is Pakistani. I agree with CB and other member…since this is Pakistani forum..your sentiment was astonishingly rude. It is not what..you expressed…that is how you express. If you claim to go to secular school..then be respectful.
And i dont think..Indian Muslims pretend to be Pakistanis. We do share same religion…but are somewhat different. And you can really tell. Secondly…i actually noticed that Indian Muslims take such a big interest in Pakistani politics. They talk about Imran khan and nawaz sharif..as if they are from Pakistan. True story.
Being an Indian I have always heard about Indian muslims supporting Pakistan but have never come across anybody myself. That said I am not sure if anybody would want to be from Pakistan these days considering the comparison. This statement is not meant to hurt anybody but with the kind of opportunities that the Indian IT sector is providing these days, I think people would prefer to be from India..
, just my opinion…
..but the fact is his family was v religious and the place where they lived was like pakistan..But if they are given any kind of hard time living their respective lives they would definately want freedom for religion and yeah the basic reason y pak came into being…
everyone love their country!