Islamically are grown-up children entitled to use the things owned by their parents without their agreement?
like can a married son and his wife use the car which is owned by the mother even if she tells them not to use it? likewise what about the things like home appliances, if these things are earned and owned by the parents and they don’t want their married kids and their wives to use it then are the married kids still entitled to use it or they will be held accountable for using it.
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Why would you do something that your parents disagree with.
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Weirdest thread starter ever.
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Why bring religion into something that is clearly against basic decency and common sense?
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If the mother tells them not to use her car or any of her other belongings, they're not supposed to.
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***Islamically are grown-up children entitled to use the things owned by their parents without their agreement?
***like can a married son and his wife use the car which is owned by the mother even if she tells them not to use it? likewise what about the things like home appliances, if these things are earned and owned by the parents and they don't want their married kids and their wives to use it then are the married kids still entitled to use it or they will be held accountable for using it.
Islamically, to take or use anything without permission is considered to be a ghasib act, no?
Mind you, not being able to use a refrigerator that's in the house means the family relationship has bigger issues.
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My mother tells me I'm grown up but I refuse to start wiping my own butt.
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I am sensing this to be another *bahu *and *saas *issue, just worded differently to bait us.
Do grown up children have a right to use things owned by parents?
Like Sehrysh pointed out, there seems to be bigger issues at hand here, than just the use of parental possessions…care to elaborate/tell the real story? 
Waisay, on a side note, this sense of entitlement is what is dreadfully wrong with society today. Please leave religion out of it.
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saas bahu issues don't need baiting........
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You have a point ButtSb but lately folks on here are going through same ol drama fatigue.
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PCG did bring some ‘enthusiasm’ back to the place…but she stopped 
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Islamically are grown-up children entitled to use the things owned by their parents without their agreement? like can a married son and his wife use the car which is owned by the mother even if she tells them not to use it? likewise what about the things like home appliances, if these things are earned and owned by the parents and they don't want their married kids and their wives to use it then are the married kids still entitled to use it or they will be held accountable for using it.
Err no.. common-sense should tell them they can't just take or borrow things which aren't theirs..
If mother has a problem with them using home appliances might be time to move out as well..
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if someone requests you NOT to use anything that belongs to him/her, it's morally, legally and ethically WRONG to do so.
i wonder if any parent would NOT want his/her children to use appliances, cars [unless the married son/daughter had an accident]...there is more serious issues between them than just use of appliances and/or automobiles. that demands attention before anything else.
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Yes, it would be wrong.
Taking liberty with their things especially after they've made it clear to you that you can't will only worsen relations. So avoid doing so just for this reason.
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If any family member has a problem with you using their things, then you shouldn't.
I'm talking from general common sense, and living-with-people etiquette.
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Thanks all for your views.
the reason for asking about Islamic perspective on this is because i know that ethics wise this is incorrect.
for the ones saying it looks like another saas bahu drama, no its not. let me elaborate it, this is about a relative where the lady of the house dislikes and has asked her grown up kids not to use the things that i have mentioned above. she was okay with it till the sons started earning. once they started earning she asked them that they should buy their own cars since they can afford it and then when they were married (live in jonit family) she asked them and their wives to buy and use their own home appliances.
the family doesn't have any rows of fights etc on other matters as far as we know but the sons and their wives are pretty annoyed on their mother's stance.
even with her own daughter she does somewhat similar. they have bought the daughter a small car but if daughter wants to take out mom's car even occasionally she has to plead her.
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If the sons and daughter all have or can afford their own things, why do they expect to use the mom's car?
As for appliances - it depends on the home. If the family home is divided in portions and everyone has their own space/rooms, including kitchen and lounge - why can't or shouldn't they have their own tvs, refrigerators, etc.
Even in a joint family, a lot of people have their own portion - where they almost live in separate flats within one larger home.
Shouldn't the son and DILS be happy that they get to be independent within the joint family?
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Arguments may arise if there are so many people using or waiting to use the car or an appliance. It can result in a blame game between the DILs and the two brothers that he/she takes the car out more often, he/she is always using this appliance and I always have to wait, he/she wrecked xyz and they should be the ones to pay for its replacement as we don't even use it that much, bla bla bla. Maybe the mom feared such drama and that's why she wants her sons to be more independent and have their own things. Maybe she's afraid that if she allows her daughter more freedom with the car, her sons and their wives will resent her. That's another angle to consider.
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Well, if it's a shared space, I feel a son or daughter using their parents' appliances is fine.
If it's not a shared space, though, it'd be basic courtesy/ common sense to seek permission before using someone else's things. And unless someone's life depends on it, I don't see how it can be acceptable for a grown-up man or woman to use a car that they neither own, nor are allowed to use.