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Originally posted by Victory: Quote: Lookscankill
As for the saying talaq 3 times, is really not what most people think ... a husband can say talaq 100 times in anger at one moment but it counts as a single instance
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The Qur'anic ayat are very clear. There has to be a time period between the three and the woman has to be fresh from her menstrual cycle without having had intercourse when the talaq should be pronounced. It is not applicable any day when there is a dispute.
Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.
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salaam,
I was told that the it is more difficult to divorce her husband becuase it is to protect the women. Women are genrally more emotional then men so it helps them by giving them more time and thinking about the consequences of there actions before they go ahead and do it.
Yes, women have been given certain strengths that man do not have and also certain weakness that man may not have.
And Allah (swt) warns us thus ……
16: 92 ** And be not like a woman who breaks into untwisted strands the yarn which she has spun after it has become strong. ** Nor take your oaths to practice deception between yourselves lest one party should be more numerous than another: for Allah will test you by this; and on the Day of Judgment He will certainly make clear to you (the truth of) that wherein ye disagree.
In a fit of rage a women is highly capable of destroying all her hard work in one go, which man will reconsider before destroying it. As such that is a weakness that women generally have ( does not apply to all woman but it is a general weakness amongst them) and that is why it is dangerous to have them as leaders of a country in my opinion
Islam has given women many rights. It is just that some MEN ONLY see and follow the rules from quran that are only for their own benenfits. For instance, divorce, four wives, etc. They totally ignore or deny the rights that favor women's rights and the ones that protect women.
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Originally posted by Sarah Splendor:
If you tell women that they are emotional, they will be emotional. It's called the self-fulfilling prophecy. Tell them that they are equal and level-headed and they will be that. Stop defining women in such a negative light.
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Equal in what way, might i ask?
"No leaf falls except that He knows of it, and no rain drop forms except that He has willed it."
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Originally posted by Hasnain:
** Equal in what way, might i ask?**
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Look up the word "EQUAL" in the dictionary. There is only one definition of the word Equal & Equality.
The definition of Equal/Equality does not apply in most aspects of the Orthodox Islamic Sharia'h. In which case - why bother using the term - Equality in Islam, unless one wishes to be blatantly hypocritical.
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Originally posted by faceup:
** Look up the word "EQUAL" in the dictionary. There is only one definition of the word Equal & Equality.
The definition of Equal/Equality does not apply in most aspects of the Orthodox Islamic Sharia'h. In which case - why bother using the term - Equality in Islam, unless one wishes to be blatantly hypocritical.
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Are they made equal in any respect? In some they are stronger and in some weaker. That is the will of the Creator.
Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.
Evidence. As MadScientist has explained, I believe you are in a place where Hindu custom is predominant.
No i meant put things in the right perspective, its better to use words that do not create confusion. Words are the things that have landed muslims in all kinds of messes nowadays.
How is this relevant to what I wrote and you seem to disagree with?
This wasnt meant as an answer to you, it was FYI.
The nikahnama **cannot cancel the right given by Qur'an and Sunnah.**
I never said that, for legal proceedings even in an Islamic court you first need some evidence of marriage to begin with.
Irrelevant, but thanks for the info. However, there is an error when you say
Correct i agree, it is actually the period for Iddah ... after that period they must remarry. Before that they can reconcile without any such imposition.
Again irrelevant. What do you mean by Then there is no interval periods to make up in between
No ***iddah?*
There are certain circumstances which can affect the duration of the divorce but if the husband decides to excercise his 3 rights to divorce his wife, its over, however he has to continue providing her support under certain conditions if they prevail such as pregnancy .. etc.
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Originally posted by FactFinder:
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Originally posted by Victory: Quote: Lookscankill
As for the saying talaq 3 times, is really not what most people think ... a husband can say talaq 100 times in anger at one moment but it counts as a single instance
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The Qur'anic ayat are very clear. There has to be a time period between the three and the woman has to be fresh from her menstrual cycle without having had intercourse when the talaq should be pronounced. It is not applicable any day when there is a dispute.
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Originally posted by LooksCanKill:
** Please quote the ayah ...**
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2:228 Divorced women shall wait concerning themselves for three monthly periods. Nor is it lawful for them to hide what Allah Hath created in their wombs, if they have faith in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.
2:229 A divorce is only permissible twice: after that, the parties should either hold Together on equitable terms, or separate with kindness. It is not lawful for you, (Men), to take back any of your gifts (from your wives), except when both parties fear that they would be unable to keep the limits ordained by Allah. If ye (judges) do indeed fear that they would be unable to keep the limits ordained by Allah, there is no blame on either of them if she give something for her freedom. These are the limits ordained by Allah. so do not transgress them if any do transgress the limits ordained by Allah, such persons wrong (Themselves as well as others).
2:241 For divorced women Maintenance (should be provided) on a reasonable (scale). This is a duty on the righteous.
65:1 O Prophet! When ye do divorce women, divorce them at their prescribed periods, and count (accurately), their prescribed periods: And fear Allah your Lord: and turn them not out of their houses, nor shall they (themselves) leave, except in case they are guilty of some open lewdness, those are limits set by Allah. and any who transgresses the limits of Allah, does verily wrong his (own) soul: thou knowest not if perchance Allah will bring about thereafter some new situation.
Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.
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Originally posted by FaceUp:
Look up the word "EQUAL" in the dictionary. There is only one definition of the word Equal & Equality.
The definition of Equal/Equality does not apply in most aspects of the Orthodox Islamic Sharia'h. In which case - why bother using the term - Equality in Islam, unless one wishes to be blatantly hypocritical.
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i'm just thumbing through the dictionary right now ... Hmm yes, yes i see now what 'equal' means. Mmm, yes, perhaps i'll email the definition to you too, as i ask once again:
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Equal in what way, might i ask?
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... but this time asking you to be a little more precise
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Originally posted by Sarah Splendor:
** If you tell women that they are emotional, they will be emotional. It's called the self-fulfilling prophecy. Tell them that they are equal and level-headed and they will be that. Stop defining women in such a negative light.**
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Salaam,
Who says it is negative? These are just some charateristics of women. Some women are more emotional then others. You cant deny that women are generally more emotional then men. Allah (swt) in his wisdom sees this and so has catered for it also.