Rubiya! Aap tamam murdoan ko aik hee lathee say haaank rahin hain, khaatoon.
Besides, in our society its not only women but also men who subdued to the wishes of their parents so there is no point in blaming men and portraying women as INNOCENT.
You ladies just go back in your past and recollect those daisy days when u were young, beautiful and maybe VIRGIN, have u ever thought of marrying any divorced or widower,........ bet not....... now as u see silver hairs in your "chutiyaa" or victimised by any man for any reason, u people start harping over male chauvinism, society etc. etc....... amusing, isn't it.
Just tell me that will your parents accept a rishtaa from any widower or divorced for their 22 yrs. old never married daughter? I'm sure no....so dear friends! society is not biased at all.
TS! 26418 is not your "vital stats." is it?
And what makes u believe that Pakistani culture is a hindu culture....... curious????
Najim! O-A tum abhee yaheen ho, yaar ubb to mairay "oooper" jaanay kay din aaga-ay aur tumharay ufrika jaanay kay din abhee tuk nahin aa-a.
Anyway you are right here, these ladies haven't seen aurat in pakistan and overlook the stories, in papers, of father abusing their daughters in their own society.
Wish u all ladies best in getting your "khwaboan kaa shehzada"
Saira Baji : I didn't say n e thing, TS was the 1st 1 to compare the women in west and in Pakistan. Aur aap ko kafi ghalat fehmi hay key Pakistan main larkion ko parhnay nahin dia jata. Just come to Pakistan and u can go in any village, inshallah aap ko Larkion key school aur college milangaay, i know this very well b'cos basically i am a paindu.
KKNIAZI sahab : Aap ney batain to bohot patay ki kee hain lakin allah key banday zuban aap ki theek nahin. pls. take care in the future. Hamari khawateen say laraee nahin hay, u know they are a part of us (apni pasli - (rib) key baray main koi aisa bolta hay) :)). It is just that they are impressed with the kind of freedom women has in West. Ab in nadanoon ko kon samghaay, all that glitters is not gold. (didn't knew key jo story metric main yaad ki thi us ka moral yahan kaam aayga, hehe)
I think it's a gross over-simplification to say that a divorce can result from disagreement over which TV channel to watch... Either that is the beginning of a series of thoughtless acts or it's the straw that broke the camel's back... but surely it's not the one and only factor!!! Come on!
Shirin jee can u bowl on the good length and stop bowling short pitch deliveries, hehe, :)aap ki english sar per say guzartay guzartay samagh main atee hay, neways what i meant by giving the example of that divorce was that the couples of the present generation lack the temper required for a happy marriage life. There is a simple rule if u want to be loved, u have to love, if u want to be forgiven to have to forgive ...... especially choti choti bataoon ko tool dainay say yeh choti choti batain baray baray masloon main change ho jatee hain aur in say perhaiz kerna chahiaay agar eik khushal aur khush gawar zinadage matloob hay.
Imran Sahab
You have made all these semi american/Paki ladies/girls very happy and I can see that from the long winded response from all these nanies.
It is infact all the do with the up-bringing. All cluture have good and bad things. Muslim cluture has mostly the good elements in it. The women are tought to worship their men while the men are told to treat their woman like a queen. What other way of life can be better than this. However our Isalm having got mixed up with hinduism(Saudism recently) encouraged men to be dominant and burn the woman whenever they felt like. I mean supress them against their will. Islam has set the basic laws in motion to protect women but it is our society which has not honoured it, so please do not blame it on Islam.
As far as west is concerened it is true that they stand up for their rights, even it means creating a life of hell for their childrens. The wole system and clture is based on materialistic values and men and women are very very selfish indeed when it comes to their own needs. They get bored easily, sexually, as they go through numerous partners and this then continues even after their wedding, and when they find out it results in a divorce. So even though there is a protection in west for a woman but it is based on materialistic value and not on family values. One can see that especially in America where kids are most rotten because their parents are too busy with their dogs and other men and woman and kids do not get the family values and the it then contiues from the kids onwards.Many mothers start competing with their daughters for their boyfriends etc. family values are never there.
I am proud to say that when I see my mother looking after my father the way she does and even it makes me jealous, no other woman in the west or grown up in west can even imagine doing that, even though my parents have spent 35 years in the west. The result is that it has breeded in to us to look upon with respect at other men and women.
I heard a conversation between an English mother and her grown up daughter in Paris, which went like this:
Daughter: mother I know David and John very well and have spent hoilidays with them, but now Grahm and Malcom are inetersting in me as well and I must now settled down.
Mother: Well, honey-moon last for few weeks, think of that and after that its pure economics, so the one who has the most wealth will keep you happy.
Please guys and dolls learn from the good things of Islam and also from the good things of west but never think that the divroce is the easy way out, not when there are kids involved.
Hey, this talk of queens is getting me down. Will the women on this forum tell us if the WANT to be treated like queens..... or what being treated like a queen means? (this for both men and women)
I mean, queens don't exist any more. Most of you will have to swab the kitchen floor and take out the rubbish. Are you looking for a man who will make it possible for you not to do it?
I'm sure that the women here want interesting , intellectually stimulating and respectful partners. Just like the men.
Queen means the one who (female)rules the heart of a man. Since man's heart is reached through its stomach, that means queen can only be a good cook.The kitchen does get dirty after cooking so one has to clean it.
male queens, well bibi I do not want to discuss that subject... I ma sure I saw an ad(zarroot e rishta) in gupp shup of a male who was willing to do everything including house cleaning.