I remember this small but powerful example my mom use to tell me:
Lets say, if you have 45 sticks joined together. You want to break them in many pieces and than get what ever you want from them(fire, etc). If we try to break them while they are joined together, it will be VERY very hard. Right? Now seprate them into individual pieces and try to break each one at a time. It is so easy, right? YES!
That example makes sense. Look at the current state of Muslim nation. A nation which was ONE stick in the past, now has been broken down to more than 45 sticks.
Muslims from India all the way to Spain were ONE body of nation. Few centuries later british comes along and starts to fill our ears with: “a turk is ruling over you, how can you let that happen” - “a saudi is ruling over you, how could you let that happen” - “A Eqyptian is ruling over you, how could you let that happen” - “how can you let them rule you” - That sort of negative and damaging thoughts were filled into the leaders of that era. The Result: The nationalism boom in the Islamic nation. Saudis got their saudia, turkish got their turkey, Eqytians got their Eqypt, Iraqies got their Iraq, Kuwaities got their kuwait, syrians got their Syria, Lebananies got their labanan, Pakistanis got their Pakistan, Iranis got their Iran, Yemenis got their Yemen, Omanis got their Oman, Sudanis got their Sudan, WHAT DID THE MUSLIMS GET? NOTHING! Now that brilliant work of british was well done, US comes alone and starts to weaken every Muslim nation, starting from Iraq.
Do you guys see this play out or am I the only one?
V~V~VHe came, He saw, He conqueredV~V~V**
[This message has been edited by The Watcher (edited November 09, 2000).]
Yeah, I see what you are saying. I also know we live in systems of politics where it is allowed for the Muslims to try to get involved in politics. U.K. is an example; but how clean? That's another matter for our U.K. friends to enlighten us with.
But, according to the article from Jung, there were 4 Muslims who stood up for political seats during this election. There are Muslim political committees in U.S. and other European nations. I urge you to look them up and become part of them. If we don't stand up and get recognized then we can't point to others and say what they are doing to us. What is happening to us is what is suppoesed to be happening to us, given the cicumstances. That is, until we decide when is enough and stand up to begin to buck the system.
Remember, we also have to call a spade an spade. We we see atrocities committed by Muslims we have to raise fingers against them. Is that not what Allah (sbwt) has also told us to do? Let's begin to do but it's funny that those who live in the West see so many of our own people break the law and keep quite. I think it is laughable. And then to listen to the "injustices" of the "system" against the Muslims. Personally, I think: and why not?
Before going after getting "political power" I think its important to gather up our votes, its important to unite all the Muslims. Than and only than the power abtain will be useful.
We, Muslims are supposed to be brothers and sisters. We are not supposed to oppress one another by making it impossible to practice our religion. When someone denies an aspect of Islam to the non-believers it gives them a chance to hurt us or oppress us. It gives them a basis for their oppression - a precedent.
Another problem is that we have groups that will avoid other groups because they are "too fundamentalist". They try to make the religion too hard. Why? Well, when you go there, the women and men are separated, the men and women do not mix around afterwards, the women are all covered up, and they expect other women to do the same, or they actually have the nerve to condemn the actions which Allah condemns or the sins Allah has promised to punish. In other words, because they speak the Quraan and the hadiths of the prophet without being afraid of offending Muslims. Come on brothers and sisters. Either we believe in the Quraan or we do not. Think about this: If the prophet of Allah came to your next meeting would he be pleased with what he sees? Would he even be welcome? Would his long beard and short thob be a turn-off - offensive? Would his actions like refusing to look at a man without a beard or cursing the women who are uncovered be rude? Our prophet, the one we say we love, respect and follow did this. It is all documented. Would we call him a fundamentalist and refuse to listen to him?
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Originally posted by The Watcher:
*Before going after getting "political power" I think its important to gather up our votes, its important to unite all the Muslims. Than and only than the power abtain will be useful.
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When you have the Muslim votes, you have the Muslim political power..... oximoron?
watcher,
we ALL "SEE" it happening from the past to the present...the question, though, is WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT????
THESE "ISLAMIC" countries are ruled by traitors who want to worshipp the money they get from the christian/jewish world powers...we as ordinary citizens dont fit in...if someone raises a voice...the voice is shut out by means of murder.....adn the funny thing is...we actually VOTE for these ppl to control our lands....
so what do we do to unite?
Yesterday is history,
Tommorow is a mystery,
Today is a gift,
That's why we call it PRESENT!
We talk about the problems and what should be done. No one talks about How the solutions should be provided. There was post by Puka Desi on the a report on 60 mins. I showed what I did. I asked if anyone else acted but no one responded.
Like I have said many times, we all like to talk big and beat our chests (no pun) but ask of action and you get zilch. Put up or shutup. Same attitudes world over. This group is a small representation of the larger population and I haven't seen it differ much from that.