I warn you before seeing this, the scene is really distressing, this pig how he hits them. I eally hope he and the other animals who hit kids rot in hell.
This isn’t a bad apple, or one case, there are plenty of places like these where the kids are being hit or maybe even worse (molested)
I know there are some decent places to send kids to, but this is far too common in the UK I dont know how parents can tolerate this.
You wouldn’t tolerate your child getting hit by the teacher at school so why would you tolerate this? I remember I used to get hit alot, the man who used to teach us is dead now and really i hope he is suffering. really It made me hate quran when i was younger.
I dont send my kids to any mosque, i teach them myself. How would be tackle this problem? Parents dont seem to care, mine knew and didn’t
Lol, I got some beatings in my time. It was normal and okay. They see it as discipline I guess. Whether it works is another question. A good teacher doesn't need to use violence to get his message across.
^ Did your parents know? Would you tolerate your kids being hit like this?
Not discipline, even when i used to get words wrong in the quran i used to have my hair pulled by that b******. Didn't you see the clip? The kdis weren;t even messing around and the way he kicked them. This really brought up some bad memories for me.
I hope this monster gets his bones crushed in his grave.
^ Did your parents know? Would you tolerate your kids being hit like this?
Not discipline, even when i used to get words wrong in the quran i used to have my hair pulled by that b******. Didn't you see the clip? The kdis weren;t even messing around and the way he kicked them. This really brought up some bad memories for me.
I hope this monster gets his bones crushed in his grave.
Well kind of I guess I mean they knew students get slapped etc. However, the problem lies when or how much of a beating is enough? You see in the same fashion parents shouldn't hit their kids either. As parents you have trust and place that trust in the hands of the teachers in this particular case.
Also, you shouldn't wish bad on people. You have no right to decide his fate only Allah does and if found guilty he will be punished accordingly. However, I can sympathise as you seem to have been on the wrong side of the stick.
I don't have kids so couldn't answer generically whether I would accept some sort of discipline. I'd want the right to use force as a parent which I believe is my right. However, I don't think I could watch someone else hit my children especially to the extent seen in some videos.
In the UK the law to abolish hitting children wasn't very long ago...So, western nations in that sense aren't exactly angels.
Unfortunately most of the people who teach Quran like this budha in the video have no or very little education. These people can read the Quran and that's probably it. They don't realise that hitting isn't going to help a child memorise Quran easily. If it did, people would be able to read the Quran in a matter of days ( the more you hit the faster one learns kinda policy). People need to realise Arabic isn't most of our mother tongue. We don't even understand what we read so it is bound to be hard. Half of these children may have never been to Pakistan, may not be able to speak urdu so how do you expect them to be super fast?
Yeah sorry i got a bit emotional, just a bit of childhood tramua. i really wasnt a bad child, but the problem with me was I used to read quran very slow and found it difficult. Also I used to get very nervous reading it to the teacher and stuttered alot, he really shouldn't have hit me the way he did. I always used to see the mosque as a scary place and really no child should feel that.
I dont have a problem with a bit of restraint if a child gets out of hand, provided there is permission from the parents. maybe a little tap with a pen on the hand if the child is talking or being a nuisance just to shock them, out of dicipline.
But with alot of these wackos it isn't dicipline, they actually take out their anger on the children. Even the language they use is so violent. I remember when i went to another place (i was about 12/13) and the lady said to the girl "mein tare kun pathsa" meaning "I'll tear your ears off" in pothwari because she she found reading the quran difficult. Alot of the people who treat children this way have some serious problems or issues which are causing them to behave this way.
There are probably some cases where the parents didn't know, one of the commenters (sharaz ali) on the video said " i sad because i send my son to this mosq and i think he has been treated the same !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :("
these parents should report these people to the police.
I don't have children and I don't believe in hitting children, all hitting does is teach the child that the person that hits the hardest gets what they want. Also if hitting worked you would only need to hit a child once.
To be honest I would warn any Quran teacher that if they were to ever hit my child I will call the police and press charges, if they have a problem with my child they need to speak to me.
those parents who don't care for the well-being and safety of their own children are NOT fit parents. corporal punishments MUST be a thing of the past. violence begets ONLY violence. a word taught with love is better than a 1000 words taught harshly. it is illegal to hit anyone, let alone kids. those violators must be reported to police ad police must register a case of battery against a minor and they be treated as a criminals. PERIOD!**
those parents who don't care for the well-being and safety of their own children are NOT fit parents. corporal punishments MUST be a thing of the past. violence begets ONLY violence. a word taught with love is better than a 1000 words taught harshly. it is illegal to hit anyone, let alone kids. those violators must be reported to police ad police must register a case of battery against a minor and they be treated as a criminals. PERIOD!**
You don't want to see it, the teacher is kicking small children like they are dogs.
Yeah sorry i got a bit emotional, just a bit of childhood tramua. i really wasnt a bad child, but the problem with me was I used to read quran very slow and found it difficult. Also I used to get very nervous reading it to the teacher and stuttered alot, he really shouldn't have hit me the way he did. I always used to see the mosque as a scary place and really no child should feel that.
I dont have a problem with a bit of restraint if a child gets out of hand, provided there is permission from the parents. maybe a little tap with a pen on the hand if the child is talking or being a nuisance just to shock them, out of dicipline.
But with alot of these wackos it isn't dicipline, they actually take out their anger on the children. Even the language they use is so violent. I remember when i went to another place (i was about 12/13) and the lady said to the girl "mein tare kun pathsa" meaning "I'll tear your ears off" in pothwari because she she found reading the quran difficult. Alot of the people who treat children this way have some serious problems or issues which are causing them to behave this way.
There are probably some cases where the parents didn't know, one of the commenters (sharaz ali) on the video said " i sad because i send my son to this mosq and i think he has been treated the same !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :("
these parents should report these people to the police.
In your case I do feel bad for your circumstances. He did the wrong thing and in stead of encouraging you he turned you off/against it.
I think restraint is an important control method which only be utilised in a must situation. As you know kids can be little demons at times.
Definitely its a education and language barrier. Most maulvis are not educated to a level beyond recitation. Which obviously has limited positive effect on kids learning about Islam. Also, its not a well rounded education they receive as they only learn to read quranic Arabic without understanding it. Its like trying to understand old English which is difficult if not approached properly. So, you speak Pothawari or just understand it?
I haven't watched the video but I have a pretty good idea of what's in it. Corporal punishment by teachers is not acceptable in ANY case. No way. However I do believe parents have the right to discipline their children and use force if necessary. Nothing that would amount to abuse but enough force that to keep your kids in check. Some kids really do deserve a spanking. Parents have to be bad cops sometimes.
What pisses me off is the so called qari sahabs who just love to beat children up. One wrong pronunciation and SMACK. That's no way to teach a child. One of our qaris hit my brother once when we were young and my dad fired him straight away.
You don't want to see it, the teacher is kicking small children like they are dogs.
*i've problem with the video. it doesn't play...there may be a problem with the link i guess. *