Disowning family members

Like we know…many a times…people disown/(aaq) their chidlren… or children just break all relations/contacts with their parents or siblings..

how do you see this..socially, islamically??

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It's digusting..

I'd only sympathise with the ppl doing the disowning if the circumstances were exceptional eg. the other person tried to kill them or something..

My mum's oldest brother was disowned for a few years because he married his gf who he'd been living with abroad (she was another desi).. My grandad basically said it was because she wasn't 'decent'.. Anyway that uncle basically bribed his way back into the family and they were happy in the end as the two ended up divorced.. During the disowning period even tho no-one was meant to be talking to my uncle + his ex-wife my mum and a few others secretly did keep in contact.

Islamically I think it might be haram to cut ties completely (can't quite remember)..

With desis it seems to be nearly always about marrying the wrong person or disputes over land/property lol..

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Islamically NOT allowed
Period.

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so what do non-desis disown people about?? funny that you have to 'lol' at desis in every statement....lol

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^'Lol' because disowning your kids for not marrying who you want them to is ridiculously petty..

Sorry if that offended you or touched a nerve (noticed you suggested 'just' kicking them out in another thread)..

It takes a LOT for a non-desi to disown their kid, I would think short of murder it hardly ever happens.. There are obvious exceptions eg. if someone wins the lottery and refuses to help family members or something but it's nowhere near common.. Some ppl think it's because white families aren't as close or connected as desi ones so they don't usually tend to get as hurt (the closer you are and the more you feel you do for them = possibly the more anger you feel when that person doesn't listen to you??)

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Times are changing now. I dont think most educated desis disown their offsprings unless they do some thing horribly criminal.

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what does the other thread has to do with it…can’t u just ever discuss whats in one thread??

so…the LOT that non-desi families take to disown is…a Lottery ticket…hmmm :hmmm:

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bewakoofi?

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Disgusting for sure. I know somebody personally who risks being disowned by her family if she gets married to her bf.

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Like the way you keep bleating on about MIL/DIL in nearly every thread in Life 1??

NO PERSONAL ATTACKS

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but what if your kid turns into a male prostitute and runs front page ads for his services? would you still "own" himzz

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oh..i do that.......so you admit you are 'lol' at desi every chance you get....cool

NO PERSONAL ATTACKS

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Why only the male prostitute ? :hmmm:

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fine, currently a male prostitute who sells drugs so that he can afford a sex change op to be both male and female prostitutes?

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Dont know some one personally who has been in this kind of siutation but strongly believe that it must be equally disturbing for parents too and there must always be some very strong reasons when parents take any such step.

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Islamic inheritance laws do not recognize disowning/aaq of children by their parents.
And if a child breaks ties with his family and later on he , she dies leaving behind some worldly possessions , these possessions will be given to his survivors according to inheritance laws of Islam.

Islam does not allow being mad at anyone for more than 3 days.
From Abu Ayyub al-Anshari : Rasulullah saw said : " It is not right for a man to abandon his brother for more than three days". ( Bukhari, Muslim )

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:D

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ermm about the non-desis not disowning their kids... I was watching a programme called the "missing person's unit" ... According to the National Runaway Switchboard, something like 3 million teens runaway from home each year in the US, 4% of whom are throwaway kids. That's like 15000, under 18 kids annually. I wouldn't call this less common than what the desis do.

As for your question Nomi, what Mirch said. I see this as pathetic in cases like disowning because of choice ki shaadi but somewhat justified when the kid's causing all sorts of trouble, breaking the law, is a pain in the arse etc ..

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Disowning someone is like giving up on family. I don't know whether its a sign of the times we live in where things are sensationalized and blown out of proportion, but I don't know what types of situations would warrant someone disowning family. Distancing yourself from members who cause you grief is okay but disowning them? really? - not unless it's an extremely dysfunctional family.

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how do you see this..socially, islamically??
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socially its slightly out of the ordinary

islamically, it is something disliked by Allah SWT, and there is, on this world, punishment for it. its like losing portions of your heart and soul