Surat An-Nisā’ 34
If Allah (swt) has appointed us men as guardians over women, why are so many women nafarmaan today?
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Wow. Love this. Where to begin?
Firstly, Islam states that men also have many responsibilities towards their wives. When men are neglecting these responsibilities, what do you expect the wife to do? Allah (swt) has appointed men to CARE FOR, PROVIDE FOR and RESPECT THEIR WIVES. If a husband is not doing this, what do you expect from the wife? She is a human being as well, not just something you can take, take, take from without having to fulfil your Islamic rights and duties towards her. So do excuse her if she gets fed up with the husband's failure to fulfil his obligations.
In the event that a husband IS fulfilling his obligations towards his wife, and she is still disobedient there may be a number of reasons as each situation is unique, however, there is always just the fact that maybe the couple are not the best match. Perhaps they disagree on everyday things so that it may SEEM as though the wife is disobedient but she really isn't- she is entitled to express her views and in fact the husband is required to listen to her views and take into consideration what she is saying. If he is not doing this, then is he not also to blame for any disobedience on his wife's part?
Bottom line is this- it is completely ridiculous to make such a broad statement "why are so many women nafarmaan" because psychology indicates that if a person behaves in a certain way, there is always a reason. And most of the time this reason has to do with the husband expecting his wife to bend over backwards for him and him completely ignoring his ISLAMIC duty towards her.
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Surat An-Nisā' 34
If Allah (swt) has appointed us men as guardians over women, why are so many women nafarmaan today?
hmm....let me see....there is a dire shortage of branches no larger in circumference then the thickness of their thumbs?
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Why put up with it - one word, three times, two witnesses, you'll be free! Will there be fallout - absolutely. Is the fallout worth not having to put up with a crazy woman - only you can decide!
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May be because their men act like jahil mullahs?
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The ones who consider women nafarmaan these days should remember...men are no longer men these days.
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Are you for real?
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Time to use “dislike” button 
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The ones who consider women nafarmaan these days should remember...men are no longer men these days.
Classic feminist line!
I think all the ladies in this thread should stop wasting our time and go and make some chai shai for us men. Iftaar ka time hone wala hai
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The term Nafarmaan is very Generic and does not explain a lot. But what I know is that both side should come to agreement. One can not dictate all the time. Someone has to think out of box. [HR][/HR]The man phoned a radio program dealing with marital problems to complain about his wife to host Sheikh Ghazi al-Shammari, a prominent Islamic scholar. The unnamed man said his wife “offended his manhood” by traveling from the Saudi port city of Jeddah to the capital Riyadh for a business conference, alone and without his approval.
Al-Shammari concluded that the man had to divorce his wife.
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You can not divorce with once.
1 Admonish
2 Separate from bed
3 Strike
If all that does not work, three times talaaq will do it. That are your rights as a man. If Allah (swt) has given us this wisdom we must listen. Allah appointed men as guardians and told us men how to deal with women. Instead of arguing and disagreeing women must learn to obey men because that is the wisdom of almighty.
If women obey, do not harm them.
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how the does this applayy on the gays maririgaes, iqball pai? also my partnar he the liking the striking. so how this is the panishment #3](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3) ?
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You can not divorce with once.
1 Admonish 2 Separate from bed 3 Strike
If all that does not work, three times talaaq will do it. That are your rights as a man. If Allah (swt) has given us this wisdom we must listen. Allah appointed men as guardians and told us men how to deal with women. Instead of arguing and disagreeing women must learn to obey men because that is the wisdom of almighty.
If women obey, do not harm them.
Of course, there is no denying the commands of Allah (s.w.t.), but you'll find that ladies are skeptical because in certain cultures of the world, unfortunately we like to lean on the commandments of Quran for our own benefit, and often will exceed the limits. There exist in society the plight of women beating, and harassing wives for various reasons.
It goes both way. Both genders must take the ayahs of Quran as a whole, and live them with fear of Allah and fear of committing injustice.
Rasool Allah (s.a.w.) was embodiment of Quran in how he lived, and subhan Allah, his character is an example for us all. All of his wives loved him, and he loved them all to the best of his ability.
We all need to work on ourselves, and fear Allah because each of us have responsibility and duties towards each other. Lets not become so focused on reminding others' their duties that we forget our own. It should be balanced.
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Can someone ban Iqbal? How much you want a bet he works for ISIS?
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Can someone ban Iqbal? How much you want a bet he works for ISIS?
ISIS are terrorist scum. What do they have to do with verses of The Noble Qur'an? Allah (swt) has appointed men as guardians over women, why does that upset you?
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Because that's the kind of BS they talk about. No Allah really hasn't asked us to be obedient to ALL men or men as an entire race or gender. Please stop twisting Quranic verses. These verses apply to a wife and her husband and you cannot post this verse without talking about a husband's responsibility towards his wife and how he is supposed to treat her in order to even get the level of respect being referred to in that verse. You are ignoring context entirely.
And that's what groups like ISIS and their wahabbi masters do.
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Honestly, I think instead of emphasising rights so much we should also emphasise the responsibilities of both husband and wife. These days everyone wants their rights but no one even mentions the responsibilities that they should be taking care of. Husband and wife should be a team. Its not a case of "well he/she didn't do this, so I won't do that" etc. That's not to say if one is being abused or their right restricted by the other that we shouldn't address that. Its just when people talk about rights they only want to talk about THEIR rights. Its about what THEY are entitled to. So maybe that's why responsibilities should also be emphasised.
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Can someone ban Iqbal? How much you want a bet he works for ISIS?
Let's ban everyone that you don't like or disagree with. Grow up PCG.