Dismissal of new PM would be tantamount to breaking country

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I believe the supreme court should take a different course of action now as its evident no people’s party prime minister will write the letter, and by taking this inflexible line the court is infact helping the government take up the posture of victims.
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Dismissal of new PM would tantamount to breaking country: Gilani

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Former prime minister Yousuf Raza Gilani. -File Photo

**LAHORE: Former Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani has said that if anything happened to the new prime minister, it would tantamount to breaking up the country.

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He said that the court decision against him was also unconstitutional. Gilani said that writing a letter to Swiss authorities would go against the constitution.

The former prime minister also said that if elected officials were to be dismissed by court decisions, then there would be no use for elections.

Gilani said that the system should be allowed to continue. He also said that the judiciary is not a political party and that it should not have any agenda.

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Why doesn't court write the letter by itself.

Obviously Zardari is guilty, he was convicted by swiss court, then he went to appeal when the NRO came and case was withdrawn.

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To PPP everything against them is tantamount to ‘breaking the country’.

Except of course, when the country is broken in half.

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It seems to be an ego issue, but if it persists we could see a mini emergency and wrap up of the democratic process (and even the judges) for now.

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Ek tha titar ek batair
ladne mein thhe dono shair
ladte ladte ho gai gum
ek ki chonch aur ek ki dum.

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They have done that before therefore we should take them more seriously. :slight_smile:

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This CJ actually paving a way for PPP to use this issue in up comming ellections to get sympathies from voters and PPP is very good to play victim drama. in final CJ got nothing from it either WE. consitution bound them to not write a letter other hand CJ have other ways to write the letter to swiss authorities.

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what happened to the review petition filed by govt against the SC decision on contempt of court?

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whats up with the threats of breaking up the country every now and then? Had this been said by AH/MQM there would be uproar around the country.

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what I think that PPP playing nicely in this issue, as per my knowledge there is two ways to bring some new amendment or change in consitution 1.pass a bill in assebmly and put forward to the court to make it work 2. assembly have fully capable to pass any new amendment in consitution if they have a clear majority without involving court permision in it, and if some other party have objections on that passed ammendment they could bring it into court( correct me if am wrong) Now PPP with alliance could pass it without court but as they plaing wisely they first put it in court first already and court reject it THEY KNEW it. I think they are ready for another Qurbani to get more syampthies atleast in their vote bank.

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I know bro, maybe the CJ is thinking that he is damaging PPP but it seems to be providing them with a lifeline. If the government is allowed to complete their tenure and go to the electorate with the baggage of their performance the situation will be different. But in this case they will out there again with their symapthy card.

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^true. The ruling govt.have another option to call for an early ellection which I think much better for ppp to get some positive result playing this card and other parties specially pti couldn't afford it. and calling early elections are under constitution. However Zardari is not in immediate danger of being put on trial and funny thing is that the Swiss authorities have already indicated they have no plan to reopen the case while Pd.in office and enjoying immunity as head of state. A lot of non ppp supporters also seeing court more politicalized. So there is a way to escape from doing nothing in their tenure period is WE were busy saving our azzes rather than solving other problems Like energy and insurgery. Quite positive for ppp(＾ｰ^)ノ

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exactly, why CJ fails to understand that he is actually providing them an opportunity to play the victim card in upcoming elections.
disqualifying one PM after another is not going to solve the problem. let them finish their tenure. and let the people judge.

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if i were in zardari's shoes i'd be planning new elections now, as it might take a couple of months for having a caretaker in place and then they will take another 3 months at least for the new elections which will take the government to the beginning of 2013. Lets say as a result of the elections, some other party comes in power they will still be in the dilemma to write the letter as Zardari will still be the president. Even if the letter is written, the Swiss wont take any action on that until Zardari is president. The way things are going it could wrap up what little bit of democracy we have presently.

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Questions:
How many cases were closed as a result of NRO?
What, if anything, has been done about all the other cases?
How come we have not heard about any of that?
Has zardari been the only corrupt politician?
How many previous cases have been opened up against other politicians?

Would the sky fall if SC was a little pragmatic and delayed the implementation of this one case against the president of the country while it pursued all others? Judges should show restraint in employing judicial activism lest the whole system is wrapped up.

Judges, like lawyers, media and any other lallu panju in Pakistan, can't handle power.

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^^It would be absurd believe!

I don't get the Pakistani nation where majority is either derived from their political affiliation or by some 10/12 anchors.... why don't they think???

Not very long ago, we had totally submissive kind of judiciary in place, the role of judges used to play the role of puppets of who ever is in power, but for once, when the judiciary is doing right thing, i.e. going after the corrupt, we are all worried about the democracy!!! some idiot nation we are...

If democracy is weak that it may get wrapped up by some guys in uniform and that is because Judiciary is trying to punish the corrupt, then i would rather say good buy to such democracy!!!

What is the issue here??? SC is simply asking to write a letter to the Swiss authorities telling them to undo what The AG (then) Malik Qayum did, that is it, no way by undoing the actions of former AG will bring AZ in the courts, Swiss authorities, Pakistani authorities will have to wait till Zardari is President of Pakistan, the proceeding will only start after that...

Now this has been twisted, turned, all to save the looted money...

Saying what you said, means, you want revival of doctrine of necessity? because you are saying, somehow, Judiciary let is go and let the democracy prevail.... that would be another NRO and sending Judiciary back to Doctrine of Necessity era!

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Other cases are in proceedings,

now tell me what is wrong in writing the letter telling the authorities that NRO, under which they (if) have withdrawn the proceedings on any cases against or a particular case against AZ had been nullified... that is all, it is officially informing the swiss authorities about the happening on a particular law!!!! now how difficult it is if AZ have noting to do with the corruption and kick back or the money which was in those accounts???

The letter can be written, have one more line, saying, since the accused party happened to be President of the Pakistan at present and have immunity, so no case can be taken into account until his term is over or he resigns from the position...

This has already happened to a pal of Zardari, where sarkozi was suspect in a Submarine case, the SC of France, went with the proceedings and finally ordered the proceeding to be starting once Sarkozi is out of office...

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^ what I am saying the government wont write the letter, it suits them to sacrifice a couple of PM's before the next elections as one PM can use up to 3-4 months at least and then we will have elections in which the party will be playing the victim card, and there would be people buying up that logic.

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SC is not politicial party nor institute, they already have set a precedent and they ought to follow that, PM have to write the letter, it suits them or not, it benefit them or not is not any business of SC... they are the only one in Pakistan who are performing their duties and they are only one who have been criticized by the corrupt nation for performing it... some doing it in name of doctrine of necessity and some in their political interest or affiliation... both are wrong and short-sighted...

It was duty of the parliament to en-force the political leadership to obey the SC, but Parliament is nothing but a rubber stamp in hands of few... why because majority in Parliament or in Politics think of their leadership as some god sent messiah if not god and anything against the leadership is blasphemy... in west, leaders works for people because otherwise people will reject them... in Pakistan, people works for leader, because they fear they will be rejected by the leader... absurd but true....

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PPP has always played this card of ethnicity. Now we can see their makrooh faces in clarity and the poisonous ethnic hatred they are instigating just to protect their corruption. When people like me point out this ethnic hatred and ethnic slogans being raised from a certain province, we are labelled as intolerant.

See I told you so, PPP is just a racist, sindh-nationalist party who only thinks about sindh and will not hesitate to break up pakistan for its tiny benefits.