And I am done. I am not ganging up on a girl for whatever reason. We have said our piece. Its done. Lets move on.
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Yes I can't say whore. But someone can post satire about 14 to 17 year old boys masturbating. And you are telling me I need to follow the rules? Well done.
Do you know how to use the "Report Post" button? Do you know where to find it? If not let me know and I will have someone provide a crash course on it.
As hard as we try there are bound to be instances where posts escape our eyes. The button is there so that you, and other members like you, can help us to keep the forum clean.
And there are no rules against reporting posts that have been posted by members of the moderating team.
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once i reported two posts, and the mod got pissed off and said dont have any anything better to do
lol
if you had just said use the report this post button instead of the statement full of scarcasm, you would have earned alot of respect imo
but you you had to do it
Do you know how to use the "Report Post" button? Do you know where to find it? If not let me know and I will have someone provide a crash course on it.
As hard as we try there are bound to be instances where posts escape our eyes. The button is there so that you, and other members like you, can help us to keep the forum clean.
And there are no rules against reporting posts that have been posted by members of the moderating team.
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once i reported two posts, and the mod got pissed off and said dont have any anything better to do
lol
if you had just said use the report this post button instead of the statement full of scarcasm, you would have earned alot of respect imo but you you had to do it
If you are not satisfied with the answer that you receive from a moderator, we have an escalation process in place. And members that spend most of their waking hours on GS, like yourself, are fully aware of those escalation points. Your complaint becomes less credible unless you have followed the rules to the full extent. If you gave up your right to escalation and abandoned the complaint then there is little that I can do to resolve it now.
And as far as my sarcasm is concerned, my rapport with CM is on a different level hence my reply directed to him.
Your "liking" every post that stands against the administration of this site is so common that we don't give it much thought anymore. Most people that have serious objections to how this site is managed leave or accept the rules for what they are. You, however, prefer to hang around and harp on....so please, carry on. We don't profess to be able to please every single customer and we are quite satisfied with not being able to please you.
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Do you know how to use the "Report Post" button? Do you know where to find it? If not let me know and I will have someone provide a crash course on it.
As hard as we try there are bound to be instances where posts escape our eyes. The button is there so that you, and other members like you, can help us to keep the forum clean.
And there are no rules against reporting posts that have been posted by members of the moderating team.
Great deflection. Doesn't address the point made nor does it acknowledge that even a mistake was made. No the onus is placed on the person pointing out the double standard and making it his fault. But I guess that is how grown up are supposed to act right Muzna?
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now this is an erroneous judgement, anyhow
Your "liking" every post that stands against the administration of this site is so common that we don't give it much thought anymore. Most people that have serious objections to how this site is managed leave or accept the rules for what they are. You, however, prefer to hang around and harp on....so please, carry on. We don't profess to be able to please every single customer and we are quite satisfied with not being able to please you.
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I just cant believe that instead of enjoying .. err, I mean criticizing Veena Malik's picture, you guys are arguing with each other.
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Great deflection. Doesn't address the point made nor does it acknowledge that even a mistake was made. No the onus is placed on the person pointing out the double standard and making it his fault. But I guess that is how grown up are supposed to act right Muzna?
no deflection at all -- i was not aware of the post and therefore couldn't comment on it.
in fact I still have not seen it.
if I was trying to deflect why would I say this:
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As hard as we try there are bound to be instances where posts escape our eyes. The button is there so that you, and other members like you, can help us to keep the forum clean.
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of course there are mistakes made.....do you have any clue how many posts require review every single day?
you can decide to carry on ranting about a double standard, which is completely expected from certain other members, or you can accept responsibility for not reporting the post.....which will it be?
and if you still haven't figured out how grown ups are supposed to act then I can't help you any further.
and I forgot to add.....thanks for the compliment......
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Well Muzna I have no idea how Grown ups do it. But the way I have seen kids do it is firstly they accept that a mistake occurred and state they would rectify the matter. But then again what do children know.
If you haven't seen it. Go ahead and ask Gaia to post it again. After all I highly doubt a grown up such as her would make a mistake, nor would we have a double standard to speak off right? If there is no double standard by all means let the post stay.
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CM you may need a crash course on how grown ups act ...
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Well done Seb. You should work for IB. With this level of efficiency to make up for moderator incompetence you are a shoe in for Zardari's own private security team.
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Well Muzna I have no idea how Grown ups do it. But the way I have seen kids do it is firstly they accept that a mistake occurred and state they would rectify the matter. But then again what do children know.
If you haven't seen it. Go ahead and ask Gaia to post it again. After all I highly doubt a grown up such as her would make a mistake, nor would we have a double standard to speak off right? If there is no double standard by all means let the post stay.
I am always there to apologize for mistakes made CM. But in this case you are telling me that, just as your post was edited the post you are objecting to has been removed as well. Where is the double standard in that? And where is the mistake? From what you have told me here both member and moderator were treated equally.
And why in heavens should I let it stay? Isn't the whole point here to prove that there are no double standards? That would mean the post has to go.
At the end of the day I am sorry if your post being edited caused you to feel slighted and distressed. That is never the intention of any member of this team. In future I urge you to have an expectation of equity and follow the process in place to report any objectionable material that you may find posted on the site and we will do our best to address it in an efficient manner.
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I am always there to apologize for mistakes made CM. But in this case you are telling me that, just as your post was edited the post you are objecting to has been removed as well. Where is the double standard in that? And where is the mistake? From what you have told me here both member and moderator were treated equally.
And why in heavens should I let it stay? Isn't the whole point here to prove that there are no double standards? That would mean the post has to go.
At the end of the day I am sorry if your post being edited caused you to feel slighted and distressed. That is never the intention of any member of this team. In future I urge you to have an expectation of equity and follow the process in place to report any objectionable material that you may find posted on the site and we will do our best to address it in an efficient manner.
If you feel member and moderator were treated equally you are confused by what transpired. You are welcome to look at the date/time stamps to verify this and correct me.
The questionable material was posted. One member made a comment about the PG nature of the thread. I fail to recall who it was. The moderator obviously didn't take the hint. I see the matter in question and respond to you. So do two others. Your moderator edits her own posts after the comments are made- yet in response to myself and others defends her actions.
Hardly fair treatment. The matter was called into question was on line for longer than hour and was not edited by any other moderators. They actually took no action. Your moderator edited her post after 3 members called her on her hypocrisy. And even then attempted to defend her actions before you stepped in.
Till you stepped in and the thread started to get cleaned up the moderator in question was defending her post.
I doubt that is called equity in any dictionary in the English language. But then again grown ups have this extremely surreal ability to force reality to bend to their perceptions no matter how wrong.
If you can't see the mistake or the double standards then I need to buy you a nice pair of glasses. You chose the brand.
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Thanks for the summary. I really didn't have time today to go and track it all.
I stand by my words....I did not read or review any of the previous posts in the thread except your sarcastic one and responded to it.
I've stated my position and offered you the apologies that you feel you deserved despite having no knowledge of the offense committed by the team. You can't get better than that.
Bombs away …still?
Well its not like the moderator restricted them to do one thing and committed it her/himself and therefore mocked the GS rules and regulations. What has been passing through my eyes on the forums is editing of those posts which contain swearing/obscene remarks/links. The leading members who are annoyed with the moderator is because she edited their name calling (yes its not the word but the way it is used makes it offensive.) Well some members may feel comfortable with swearing and using curse words but majority is not. So the moderator cannot be blamed for doing a job every moderator is supposed to do.
As far as that link from some fake newspaper jawani something goes, it was a link and relevant so maybe Gaia found it funny and posted. Only because it contained the term "masbat it became prone to attack. I think we have heard of and read such terms and other too. And it is not same as name calling or swearing. Still when queer pointed that out Gaia edited her post and removed the link. And still this fuss.
Things would have been different if a moderator had used offensive language and curse words while warning others to do so. I think senior members should take it easy. If they cannot control using curse words, they can suggest to have a section here where they can swear and all that up to their heart’s fill 
I had to post this in order to bring a neutral member’s stance on this and please do not take it as gender favouritism, few members may have felt the gender discrimination as the mod was a female, but well a mod, for us, is a mod first.
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Mirage you need to get your facts right - darling you certainly have no clue , what has happened :)
Same like the others - this picture has two sides too - and unfortunately you are unaware of the other side :)
P.S: sorry you took your precious time out for posting such a lovely feedback but as per post no 106 - this will get moved too ... So in future please use the right forum for providing your neutral feedback :D
Bombs away …still?
like what? another dimemberment after 71? 
There used to be something like generosity, large heartedness and chivalry 
come on now, will you? :hinna:
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Hardly fair treatment. The matter was called into question was on line for longer than hour and was not edited by any other moderators. They actually took no action. Your moderator edited her post after 3 members called her on her hypocrisy. And even then attempted to defend her actions before you stepped in.
Hypocrisy? CM I'm not sure what you're fighting for, since I am 100% sure you will continue to use curse words and be inappropriate, so not sure why the term masturbation got you so hot and bothered. But hey.
When I posted that article, I did not see the word 'masturbation' as inappropriate. Why? Because, I think it's something real, some may say a problem, but I do not think it should be taboo just to say the word. And the article was a funny spin on that this topic. If you were so worried about that word not being PG than since when is a thread based on a girl posing nude PG? Why did you not have an issue with that? It is clear that Seb and Enigmatic also did not see that word as a problem, because if either one of them did they would have edited it out asap.
This same issue happens with members. Where they may post something, which I myself do not find inappropriate, but maybe later a number of posters will find it offensive (report it) and it gets edited to stop any further problems on GS. Same is the reason I edited my post, not because I found it offensive/ inappropriate but because I didn't want issues to arise because of one of my posts. Simple really.
So CM, next time you find something inappropriate, do report it so it can be edited out just like any other post by any member.
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Look, ever heard of the phase "I'm sorry but you are wrong" "I'm sorry but you must leave" "I'm sorry I cant understand you"
When a MOD says what GAIA said it is NOT POV it is moderation guidelines, philosophy and rules
when you are a moderator you cannot assume for example a person will always use swear words. it is a basic defect as it is a biased moderation. you cannot moderate a user based on what YOU THINK he or she will do in the future.
moreover, admitting a mistake is one thing, justifying your actions based on what and how you interpret something is something a moderator should and must not do. letting an issue slide because it 'may have been a problem' shows lack of judgement and deficiency of investigation as to the real understanding of the issue. when you justify your action based on 'may be this or may be that' means you do not understand the situation and thus doing improper moderation.
just because the mod does not find anything offensive does not mean it is not, a moderator, putting his or her personal thoughts aside, should figure out if anything is or could be offensive to any of the members (and not just herself) and do moderation according. and justifying from then on is just going over and above
Why say sorry when you don't mean it ? :)
And calling someone's POV or post as 'utter nonsense' isn't polite you know.
Moderator, Admin OR any member...all we know is that profanity, curse words, personal insults and inappropriate links containing nudity images or videos have no place here on GS. And they would be edited out as soon as a moderator spots them.
If anybody feels that the mods are going beyond that and unnecessarily editing posts, you are free to take it in the feedback form and take it with the respective Channel Manager. And there's always a report button for every post that you seem is breaking the rules I stated above.
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I call for prolonged mod-free period…these issues wouldn’t be there…