dilemma!

Assume I have a problem that my father doesnt want me dating blacks, spanish, american, etc… i have to date desis, but i am not dating a desi guy, he is black. The reason why my father is like this its because he beleives every race should stick with their own,and i dont beleive in that i dont look at guys that i meet over colour its the personality.

If my family/parents found out i am dead im going to get kicked out and they wont accept me or my bf because he is black, im not trying to hurt my family but they have to realize that my bf he means the world to me he makes me happy, sweet, funny, caring, respectful, treats me so well,knows what he wants in life, easy to talk too, understanding, and loves me for me.

Last night me and my bf were talking and he was saying that when he looks at other people and their with there gf/bf kissing, cuddling etc… y cant that be us and im on the phone jsut thinkin to myself i cant do this anymore, so i told him i said to him i cant do this anymore, i want u to be happy with someone else that u can see, and not worry so much about my family, so when i was telling him that i was crying my eyes out because deep down inside i dont really want him to go, so he says to me you want me to move on and i said yes because i dont want to see u unhappy with me, he starts crying saying he wants to be with me, you make me happy, i cant lose u, i love u so much, i am going to kill myself,and to be honest i cant let him go its like something apart of me wants him in my life because without him i am not compelte and he makesme so happy, i feel so comforable around him its so hard not seeing him everyday, its hard having a family like this, we have been togehter for 2yrs n we only seen each other twice i know what your thinking y are u with him still, but its so hard i just cant leave him, its just something about him that i cant let go of i try my best but i just cant u know what i mean, like i tell him think postive, i promise u one day we are going to be together, we are going to get through this, we gotta try our best, we dont live that far its like only 20mins. Like i know him from when we went to school he was there for me and he was the shoulder i could lean on and he knew back then how my family was be he goes i dont care becaue i want to be with you and i said i cant but i did like him alot, but i didnt know he felt the same way so he told me and then look at us now.Its so hard you know the problem is the family because my sister start to question and she start saying mean things and they think i am this and that there always in my business like ia m almost 20 and they treat me like a child and they tell me what i gotta do with my life like i dont tell them what they gotta do you knw what i mean, i just dont wanna lose my man he means evrything i am crying while writing this to you i just need some advice what you think about the whole situation should i listen to my heart?

i want your honest opionion please… thank you for listening.

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he starts crying saying he wants to be with me, you make me happy, i cant lose u, i love u so much, i am going to kill myself,and to be honest i cant let him go its like something apart of me wants him in my life
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Ok he needs to MAN UP and u need to grow up...seriously.

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you need to figure out what is more important to you: being with him while your family disowns you, or being without him and having your family there. because no matter how much you try and convince yourself, theres just something about desis and black people- they'll accept a gora after much fighting, but there is no way in hell a black person is acceptable. call it racism, a shame, backwards-thinking, whatever... thats the way it is. you know the way it is. so now you have to make up your mind. and if you do decide to be with this guy, you better make SURE he knows your expectations and doesn't take off at the first sign of stress or pressure from your family.

listen to ur father hes making sense:)

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believe me when I say - ull be nowhere if u dont have ur family behind u to support u - ur 20 thats fine - but ur still young, your parents have seen the way the world works and they are more mature than u.. you wont ever be happy without ur parents in ur life no matter how much u might love this guy. backing out might seem hard but things like these heal - with time - rather than putting urself in a situation where ur family gets hurt and u lose all ur respect. Your parents gave birth to u, raised u, took care of u; and in the end being a daughter I think u do owe them this much - I totally agree with SGC and i think u really need to figure out what is more important - love or family?

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I can understand why your father would feel the way he feels. He's being protective and knows the issues that stem from being with a partner other than one who is a Desi.

Anyone who has experienced such a relationship will tell you its not a piece of cake.
It sure as hell seems all like a fairytale but there are so many differences and so many hurdles to overcome.

If you are strong and dedicated then you should belive in yourself but if you for even a moment doubt yourself and the strength that you need to be with someone from another race then dont go there cause its not a piece of cake.

Okay i dont think that made sense :(

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your dad is one heck of a lenient person, because the concept of dating doesn't exist in pakistani culture..and he's doesn't have a problem with you dating pakistanis.
so, quit complaining!!

and to answer your question...no, you shouldn't listen to your heart in this situation because you and your boyfriend have alot of growing up to do. Life is not a joke, both of you are too immature to take any serious steps.

What I don't understand is that you must have known your family inhibitions and limitations about who you could get married with and who you could not BEFORE you started dating this guy because as per your post, your family doesn't know about your BF yet. So is it actually not you who dragged yourself in such situation? And yes, as someone else said that your father is still too liberal to have let you "dating" as opposed to typical Pakistani dads so Quit Complaining and Grow Up!

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No matter how liberal a Pakistani family is I cannot believe that they will allow their daughters to date a desi or non desi and that too at a tender age of 20 . So what you are saying about your father being racist in this respect is unacceptable to me.
That being out of way. I would advise you to first grow up and let that guy grow up too. I am sure if that guy becomes a high achiever and he is still a decent guy and then he proposes to your family to marry you , you and he will have a better chance. For now you two stand no chance of success you and he will ruin your lives . At the moment you two just put more energies in your studies rather than being romantic and on phone crying on each others shoulders. He is not man enough yet to propose , you are not matured enough and independent enough to talk about being with each other for life. It is all good and charming when left to day time soap operas, real life is larger than soaps you have to account for realities of life which are very harsh.
If you two elope and get married you two will become trash of the society. You two do not want your families to commit as yet because in a couple of years you or him might change and one or both of you might want to break the commitment then why make the commitment so early ?

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salz, sometimes when we are "in love" we only listen to our emotions and get carried away. Soon, the practicality of the relationship comes forward and all of a sudden it gets really hard.

Like some others pointed out, your relationship is not going to be a smooth sailing after some time and you will need an incredible amount of confidence, persistency and consistency to deal with the situation.

Personally, I feel you are getting carried away because you are at the age everyone needs someone and you settle with what you have. Unfortunately, that may not be the best thing for you.

Thank you guys....I am simply amazed at the quality of replies that I got to my problem...I really wanna thank all of you especially......

Niksik & adrasteia.... It makes total sense adrasteia what you are saying, I will try to act on your suggestions and would let you know how it went...I am confident that it will work but it sure is biggggggggggggggg sacrifice for me...........:)

cheers with teary eyes!

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sweetheart a Black man crying and being with you despite the fact that he has only seen u twice. oh boy u need a reality check really i dont htink any man let alone a black man would do this

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sweetheart this decision will hurt you in the beginning but will keep you happier for the rest of your life.. so don't listen to your heart, family would never advice you wrong. the love of parents is unconditional.. mark my words honey, only they're the ones who will stand beside you whenever you need them and no one else. you're their dear child and that is the reason your father is being liberal and not putting restrictions on you to go out with anyone, please don't take their love for granted. if you listen to your parents and make them happy Allah Taala will reward you.. so just don't lose control - don't cry, trust your decision. believe that whatever happens, happens for good. alright sweety, we're all with you too.. share your problems and you'll always find some really sensible people advising good things to you. hope you concentrate more on your studies now and be an obedient daughter.

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salz, the other thing you may want to keep in mind is his family... are they going to accept this relationship, what can he do for you, how much are you willing to sacrifice, and is it worth all of that?

I know a friend of my husband's. He was seeing a girl from another culture and religion. They both seemed to love each other and talked to their families. Hubby and I talked to them as well. The girl admitted that while she felt she couldn't live without the guy, she was not ready to give up her religious values for anything. Now they are both happily married to other people, have children and have moved on.

Reality comes with some surprises. In fact, your parents will never be prepared for this so their reaction will be unimaginable.

Are you even sure of the guy? Just because he says something doesn't mean he's willing to spend his entire life with you.

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For some reasons i have always been attracted more towards desi people than any other race.. Like i have “never” been attracted to any other race.. Maybe because i was raised among them until my teenage years.. So my question from you is tat, How are u even attracted towards other races? Like do u consider religion (i don’t know if ur bf was a muslim or no)?
Or maybe you were born and raised in western society. But my piece of advice would be to listen to your dad. He was the guy who took care of you for 20 years, you simply can’t reject his views for a guy whom u were with for 5 years.. (Come on do your math on who loves and took care of u more)…
As long as i know if u have married ur bf, you would need to do alot of compromise…

P.S And the most important thing is tat those other races don’t eat spicy or desi food.. Can u live without tat? :bummer:

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wow

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salz you need to seriously take the advice others are giving you. you are too young and too immature to commit to something like this. love makes you think "he is the one" or "noone will make me happier" or"he is different from other black people"

Marriage is a reality and a harsh one too. Your not married yet so things don't seem as bad to you. There is a reason why everyone is telling you to back off. Marriage is a huge huge committment and you will only regret it after you marry this guy. This is your life you are talking about. Desi's and black's just don't last. I have never heard of that. Gora's yes possible but blacks? I don't mean to sound racist hun just speaking from what I have seen and heard. I may be wrong but that's just my personal experience.

Stop what your doing right now. Yes it will hurt and you will feel like you "going to die" but your too young right now and you have your entire life ahead of you. Don't throw it away.