Re: dil ki manu k zehen ki YA RAB!!!!!!!!!!
kia wali aur qalandar ek nahin ho sakte? What is the difference?
Re: dil ki manu k zehen ki YA RAB!!!!!!!!!!
kal batoungi detail se
Re: dil ki manu k zehen ki YA RAB!!!!!!!!!!
kal batoungi detail se
kis se poocho gi.. kia Bahaodin akariya ke mazar pe jake kisi malang se?
Re: dil ki manu k zehen ki YA RAB!!!!!!!!!!
hahaa nahi book per k
vo sirf 9 bjy tak hota hy
me raat 12 bjy baher jati hun
Re: dil ki manu k zehen ki YA RAB!!!!!!!!!!
kia wali aur qalandar ek nahin ho sakte? What is the difference?
Qalender = Tareeqat/Maarifat
Wali = Shareeyat
Re: dil ki manu k zehen ki YA RAB!!!!!!!!!!
Qalender = Tareeqat/Maarifat Wali = Shareeyat
But Wali = Dost, kia Qalandar khuda ka dost nahin hota
Re: dil ki manu k zehen ki YA RAB!!!
ab sahi se yaad nahi ranks se
arif
zahid
qutab
abdal
qalander
imam
nahi say mix her diay 
Re: dil ki manu k zehen ki YA RAB!!!
ek ghaus bhi hota hai
Re: dil ki manu k zehen ki YA RAB!!!!!!!!!!
But Wali = Dost, kia Qalandar khuda ka dost nahin hota
Ji Bilkul dono bhi khuada ke dost aur blessed hain...
Magar dono ka andaz-e-mohabbed (ya bandagi kehlein) judagana hai....
Qalender woh log hote hain jo Majzoob qism ke hote hai...jo shariyat ke qanoon pe nahi chalte.....(namaz, roza, zakat etc) magar batini taur pe woh khuda ki ibadat karte hai...har waqt uske zikr or fikr mein doobe hote hai...(jisko duniya deewana samajhti hai)
Aur Wali...mostly Shariyat pe chanle waale, namaz roze ke paband, Shadi shuda aur ghar grehasti wale hote hai....
Ek chota sa waqia yaad aaya hai ..
Kisi gaaoN mein ek buzarg (Majzoob/Qalender) ghuma karte the...koi une allah ke wali batata tha aur koi deewana....
ek din mohalley ke naujawanoun ne unse israar kia ke woh namaz padein....namaz to farz hai...
pehle aap namaz padein phir bahut saari ibadat karein ...Allah ko raazi kareing waiqara waigara...tab jaake aap allah ke dost (wali ya qadlander) baneinge...
Buzurq ne kaha...mujhe zabardasti mat karo ...mujh se nahi hoga...
Kafi israar ke baad phir un naujawanoun ne kisi tarha un buzurq ko namaz ke liye raazi kia
Dourane namaz woh buzarg gir pade....
baad namaz un naujawanoun ne unse kaha..."kiun chacha...ek namaz na padi gai aap se..."
uno ne kaha "maine tabay imam ke" namaz padi,
main to zayeef aadmi hoon...mujh mein itne sakat nahi ke tamaam bazaar ghumu aur bache ke joote khareedoun...phir waha se kahin door kisi aziz se milne jaaoun aur phir waha se kahi aur...itna chalne ki quwaat nahi thi mujh mein...."
Buzurg ki baat kisi ki samajh mein nahi aai....
aur Imam saheb jinho ne namaz padai thi ....buzarg ke qadmoun mein gir pade....aur maafi mangne lage....
sub ke hairat mein izaafa hone laga...
phir imam saheb ne kaha ...namaz padate waq yeh sub khayal mere zahen mein aaye the...ke main bazaar jaaon falan dukan se bache ke joote khareedoun aur uske baad kisi aziz se milne jaaoun etc...
aur woh buzarg jinho ne "taabey Imam ke" ki niyaat ki thi....unki ibadat ka yeh alam tha ke uno ne imam saheb ke khayaloun ki bhi itebah ki....
Re: dil ki manu k zehen ki YA RAB!!!!!!!!!!
ek ghaus bhi hota hai
ji baad me yaad aaya tha
qutab se pehly
Re: dil ki manu k zehen ki YA RAB!!!!!!!!!!
KHANDADATH@
qalander ki taaref me thori si mistake ker gai ap
ager ap spirtulism orr uski termz janty hun to
apko samj ajai ga
QALANDER...MARTABAI EHSAN PER FAIZ ORR SAHBY TASRRUF HOTA HY
Re: dil ki manu k zehen ki YA RAB!!!
:halo: explain.
waise, Qalandar aal Shahbaz to boht inadaat karte the.. wo kaise Qalndar huwe agar khansadath ki definition maan li jae
Re: dil ki manu k zehen ki YA RAB!!!
perfect :k:
Re: dil ki manu k zehen ki YA RAB!!!!!!!!!!
KHANDADATH@
qalander ki taaref me thori si mistake ker gai ap
ager ap spirtulism orr uski termz janty hun to apko samj ajai ga QALANDER...MARTABAI EHSAN PER FAIZ ORR SAHBY TASRRUF HOTA HY
Pehle to aap ki sufiyana knowlege to salam
uske baad kuch arz karna chahta hoon:
Aap agar thread ke base shair ko dubara se pardieN..... uske pehle misre mein do cheezien bayaan ki gai hain...."**Dil** aur **Zahen**" aur ussi ki munasibat se dusre misre mein "**Qalender** aur **wali**" ke alfaz istemaal hue hai.... yani ke Dil ko Qalender se muraad di gai hai aur Zahen ko Wali se (aur ek common nazriye se Dil ko manne ka matlab hota hai Jassbat se kaamlena bina soche samjhe ya phir khilaf-e-qanoon ya khilaf-e-aqal; aur ussi tarha se Zahen ko manne ka matlab banta hai soch samjh kar faisla karna/baqayedgi se kaamlena)
- issi tanazur mein Dil = Qalender= Tariqat ko manne wala Zahen = Wali = Shariyat ko manne wala (shayer kehta hai …ya rab main kis ki sunoN, dil ki sonta hoon to woh rashta alag hai ….Zahen ki sunta hoon to woh rasta alag hai…)
aur dusri baat, meri jo explanation thi woh ek general explanation ke zumre mein thi (na ke sufiyana classifacation (*arif, zahid, qutab, abdal, qalander, imam .....*aur purely based on the thread Shair....jis mein sirf do kaifiyaat ka zikr hai (Qalender aur wali)...