Re: Did Our Prophet Hadrat Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) had a Shadow?
If our Prophet didn't have a Shadow, then how come Kaafirs couldn't become Muslims right away? How come Kaafirs couldn't be very amazed to see our Prophet being without Shadow? Think about that! Our Prophet did have a Shadow.
Re: Did Our Prophet Hadrat Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) had a Shadow?
Mem Sahib – I think it would be advisable for to pay more attention to what the Quran has to say then what you were taught in your school.
The Quran states again and again that Humans always want something extraordinary. They are never satisfied with what Allah (swt) does but want the things to be done according to their whims and desires.
Read the following:
*When Noah (a.s.) was sent to his people: *فَقَالَ الْمَلأ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْ قَوْمِهِ مَا نَرَاكَ إِلا بَشَرًا مِثْلَنَا
وَمَا نَرَاكَ اتَّبَعَكَ إِلا الَّذِينَ هُمْ أَرَاذِلُنَا بَادِيَ الرَّأْيِ وَمَا نَرَى لَكُمْ عَلَيْنَا مِنْ فَضْلٍ بَلْ نَظُنُّكُمْ كَاذِبِينَ
11/27 Then the chiefs of those who disbelieved from among his people said: We do not consider you but a mortal (Bashar) like ourselves, and we do not see any have followed you but those who are the meanest of us at first thought and we do not see in you any excellence over us; nay, we deem you liars.
فَقَالَ الْمَلأ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْ قَوْمِهِ مَا هَذَا إِلا بَشَرٌ مِثْلُكُمْ يُرِيدُ أَنْ يَتَفَضَّلَ عَلَيْكُمْ وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ لأنْزَلَ مَلائِكَةً مَا سَمِعْنَا بِهَذَا فِي آبَائِنَا الأوَّلِينَ
23/24 Then the chiefs of those who disbelieved from among his people said: He is nothing but a mortal (Bashar) like yourselves who desires that he may have superiority over you, and if Allah had pleased, He could certainly have sent down angels. We have not heard of this among our fathers of yore:
*When another Messenger (a.s.) was sent to the generation that followed the people of Noah (a.s.): *
وَقَالَ الْمَلأ مِنْ قَوْمِهِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَكَذَّبُوا بِلِقَاءِ الآخِرَةِ وَأَتْرَفْنَاهُمْ فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا مَا هَذَا إِلا بَشَرٌ مِثْلُكُمْ يَأْكُلُ مِمَّا تَأْكُلُونَ مِنْهُ وَيَشْرَبُ مِمَّا تَشْرَبُونَ
وَلَئِنْ أَطَعْتُمْ بَشَرًا مِثْلَكُمْ إِنَّكُمْ إِذًا لَخَاسِرُونَ
23/33 And the chiefs of his people who disbelieved and called the meeting of the hereafter a lie, and whom We had given plenty to enjoy in this world's life, said: This is nothing but a mortal like yourselves, eating of what you eat from and drinking of what you drink.
23/34 And if you obey a mortal (Bashar) like yourselves, then most surely you will be losers:
*When Moses (a.s.) and Aaorn (a.s.) were sent as Messengers (a.s.) to Pharaoh and his chiefs: *
فَقَالُوا أَنُؤْمِنُ لِبَشَرَيْنِ مِثْلِنَا وَقَوْمُهُمَا لَنَا عَابِدُونَ
23/47 Then they said: What! shall we believe in two mortals (Bashar) like ourselves while their people serve us?
When Salih (a.s.) came to his people with Allah's Message, they said:
مَا أَنْتَ إِلا بَشَرٌ مِثْلُنَا فَأْتِ بِآيَةٍ إِنْ كُنْتَ مِنَ الصَّادِقِينَ
26/154 You are naught but a mortal (Bashar) like ourselves; so bring a sign if you are one of the truthful.
When Shu'aib (a.s.) came to his people with Allah's Message, they said:
وَمَا أَنْتَ إِلا بَشَرٌ مِثْلُنَا وَإِنْ نَظُنُّكَ لَمِنَ الْكَاذِبِينَ
26/186 And you are naught but a mortal (Bashar) like ourselves, and we know you to be certainly of the liars.
Similarly, when other Messengers (a.s.) came to their people:
قَالُوا مَا أَنْتُمْ إِلا بَشَرٌ مِثْلُنَا وَمَا أَنْزَلَ الرَّحْمَنُ مِنْ شَيْءٍ إِنْ أَنْتُمْ إِلا تَكْذِبُونَ
36/15 They said: You are naught but mortals (Bashar) like ourselves, nor has the Beneficent Allah revealed anything; you only lie.
أَلَمْ يَأْتِكُمْ نَبَأُ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْ قَبْلُ فَذَاقُوا وَبَالَ أَمْرِهِمْ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ
ذَلِكَ بِأَنَّهُ كَانَتْ تَأْتِيهِمْ رُسُلُهُمْ بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ فَقَالُوا أَبَشَرٌ يَهْدُونَنَا فَكَفَرُوا وَتَوَلَّوْا وَاسْتَغْنَى اللَّهُ وَاللَّهُ غَنِيٌّ حَمِيدٌ
Has there not come to you the story of those who disbelieved before, then tasted the evil result of their conduct, and they had a painful punishment? That is because there came to them their messengers with clear arguments, but they said: Shall mortals guide us? So they disbelieved and turned back, and Allah does not stand in need (of anything), and Allah is Self-sufficient, Praised. [64:5-6]
*To the people of Noah, Aad, Samood and those who followed them: *
قَالَتْ رُسُلُهُمْ أَفِي اللَّهِ شَكٌّ فَاطِرِ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأرْضِ يَدْعُوكُمْ لِيَغْفِرَ لَكُمْ مِنْ ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُؤَخِّرَكُمْ إِلَى أَجَلٍ مُسَمًّى قَالُوا إِنْ أَنْتُمْ إِلا بَشَرٌ مِثْلُنَا تُرِيدُونَ أَنْ تَصُدُّونَا عَمَّا كَانَ يَعْبُدُ آبَاؤُنَا فَأْتُونَا بِسُلْطَانٍ مُبِينٍ
14/10 Their messengers said: Is there doubt about Allah, the Maker of the heavens and the earth? He invites you to forgive you your faults and to respite you till an appointed term. They said: You are nothing but mortals (Bashar) like us; you wish to turn us away from what our fathers used to worship; bring us therefore some clear authority.
قَالَتْ لَهُمْ رُسُلُهُمْ إِنْ نَحْنُ إِلا بَشَرٌ مِثْلُكُمْ وَلَكِنَّ اللَّهَ يَمُنُّ عَلَى مَنْ يَشَاءُ مِنْ عِبَادِهِ وَمَا كَانَ لَنَا أَنْ نَأْتِيَكُمْ بِسُلْطَانٍ إِلا بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ وَعَلَى اللَّهِ فَلْيَتَوَكَّلِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ
14/11 Their messengers said to them: We are nothing but mortals (Bashar) like yourselves, but Allah bestows (His) favors on whom He pleases of His servants, and it is not for us that we should bring you an authority except by Allah's permission; and on Allah should the believers rely.
*When the Messenger (a.s.) of Allah came to Samood: *
كَذَّبَتْ ثَمُودُ بِالنُّذُرِ
فَقَالُوا أَبَشَرًا مِنَّا وَاحِدًا نَتَّبِعُهُ إِنَّا إِذًا لَفِي ضَلالٍ وَسُعُرٍ
Samood rejected the warning.
So they said: What! a single mortal (Bashar) from among us! Shall we follow him? Most surely we shall in that case be in sure error and distress: [54:23-24]
*When the exalted Prophet, Muhammad (a.s.) came to his people: *
لاهِيَةً قُلُوبُهُمْ وَأَسَرُّوا النَّجْوَى الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا هَلْ هَذَا إِلا بَشَرٌ مِثْلُكُمْ أَفَتَأْتُونَ السِّحْرَ وَأَنْتُمْ تُبْصِرُونَ
21/3 Their hearts trifling; and those who are unjust counsel together in secret: He is nothing but a mortal (Bashar) like yourselves; what! will you then yield to enchantment while you see?
*Allah commanded the exalted Prophet, Muhammad (a.s.): *
قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَنَا بَشَرٌ مِثْلُكُمْ يُوحَى إِلَيَّ أَنَّمَا إِلَهُكُمْ إِلَهٌ وَاحِدٌ فَمَنْ كَانَ يَرْجُو لِقَاءَ رَبِّهِ فَلْيَعْمَلْ عَمَلا صَالِحًا وَلا يُشْرِكْ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهِ أَحَدًا
18/110 Say: I am only a mortal (Bashar) like you; it is revealed to me that your god is one Allah, therefore whoever hopes to meet his Lord, he should do good deeds, and not join any one in the service of his Lord.
قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَنَا بَشَرٌ مِثْلُكُمْ يُوحَى إِلَيَّ أَنَّمَا إِلَهُكُمْ إِلَهٌ وَاحِدٌ فَاسْتَقِيمُوا إِلَيْهِ وَاسْتَغْفِرُوهُ وَوَيْلٌ لِلْمُشْرِكِينَ
41/6 Say: I am only a mortal (Bashar) like you; it is revealed to me that your Allah is one Allah, therefore follow the right way to Him and ask His forgiveness; and woe to the polytheists;
*The Quran says: *
وَمَا قَدَرُوا اللَّهَ حَقَّ قَدْرِهِ إِذْ قَالُوا مَا أَنْزَلَ اللَّهُ عَلَى بَشَرٍ مِنْ شَيْءٍ قُلْ مَنْ أَنْزَلَ الْكِتَابَ الَّذِي جَاءَ بِهِ مُوسَى نُورًا وَهُدًى لِلنَّاسِ تَجْعَلُونَهُ قَرَاطِيسَ تُبْدُونَهَا وَتُخْفُونَ كَثِيرًا وَعُلِّمْتُمْ مَا لَمْ تَعْلَمُوا أَنْتُمْ وَلا آبَاؤُكُمْ قُلِ اللَّهُ ثُمَّ ذَرْهُمْ فِي خَوْضِهِمْ يَلْعَبُونَ
6/91 And they do not assign to Allah the attributes due to Him when they say: Allah has not revealed anything to a mortal (Bashar) . Say: Who revealed the Book which Musa brought, a light and a guidance to men, which you make into scattered writings which you show while you conceal much? And you were taught what you did not know, (neither) you nor your fathers. Say: Allah then leave them sporting in their vain discourses.
All the above verses make it clear that all the Messengers (a.s.) of Allah, including Muhammad (a.s.) were mortals (Bashar) like other human beings. Now let us see what Allah says about mortals (Bashar) :
مَا كَانَ لِبَشَرٍ أَنْ يُؤْتِيَهُ اللَّهُ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحُكْمَ وَالنُّبُوَّةَ ثُمَّ يَقُولَ لِلنَّاسِ كُونُوا عِبَادًا لِي مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ وَلَكِنْ كُونُوا رَبَّانِيِّينَ بِمَا كُنْتُمْ تُعَلِّمُونَ الْكِتَابَ وَبِمَا كُنْتُمْ تَدْرُسُونَ
3/79 It is not meet for a mortal (Bashar) that Allah should give him the Book and the Wisdom and prophethood, then he should say to men: Be my servants rather than Allah's; but rather (he would say): Be men of the Lord because of your teaching the Book and your reading (it yourselves).
*In the Quran, the word Bashar has been used in contrast with malak (angel). Please see the following: *
فَلَمَّا سَمِعَتْ بِمَكْرِهِنَّ أَرْسَلَتْ إِلَيْهِنَّ وَأَعْتَدَتْ لَهُنَّ مُتَّكَأً وَآتَتْ كُلَّ وَاحِدَةٍ مِنْهُنَّ سِكِّينًا وَقَالَتِ اخْرُجْ عَلَيْهِنَّ فَلَمَّا رَأَيْنَهُ أَكْبَرْنَهُ وَقَطَّعْنَ أَيْدِيَهُنَّ وَقُلْنَ حَاشَ لِلَّهِ مَا هَذَا بَشَرًا إِنْ هَذَا إِلا مَلَكٌ كَرِيمٌ
12/31 So when she heard of their sly talk she sent for them and prepared for them a repast, and gave each of them a knife, and said (to Yusuf): Come forth to them. So when they saw him, they deemed him great, and cut their hands (in amazement), and said: Remote is Allah (from imperfection); this is not a mortal; this is but a noble angel.
فَقَالَ الْمَلأ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْ قَوْمِهِ مَا هَذَا إِلا بَشَرٌ مِثْلُكُمْ يُرِيدُ أَنْ يَتَفَضَّلَ عَلَيْكُمْ وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ لأنْزَلَ مَلائِكَةً مَا سَمِعْنَا بِهَذَا فِي آبَائِنَا الأوَّلِينَ
23/24 Then the chiefs of those who disbelieved from among his people said: He is nothing but a mortal (Bashar) like yourselves who desires that he may have superiority over you, and if Allah had pleased, He could certainly have sent down angels. We have not heard of this among our fathers of yore:
وَإِذْ قَالَ رَبُّكَ لِلْمَلائِكَةِ إِنِّي خَالِقٌ بَشَرًا مِنْ صَلْصَالٍ مِنْ حَمَإٍ مَسْنُونٍ
15/28 And when your Lord said to the angels: Surely I am going to create a mortal (Bashar) of the essence of black mud fashioned in shape.
إِذْ قَالَ رَبُّكَ لِلْمَلائِكَةِ إِنِّي خَالِقٌ بَشَرًا مِنْ طِينٍ
38/71 When your Lord said to the angels; Surely I am going to create a mortal (Bashar) from dust:
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Re: Did Our Prophet Hadrat Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) had a Shadow?
**When the non-believers asked for various miracles, the response was as follows: **
وَقَالُوا لَنْ نُؤْمِنَ لَكَ حَتَّى تَفْجُرَ لَنَا مِنَ الأرْضِ يَنْبُوعًا
أَوْ تَكُونَ لَكَ جَنَّةٌ مِنْ نَخِيلٍ وَعِنَبٍ فَتُفَجِّرَ الأنْهَارَ خِلالَهَا تَفْجِيرًا
أَوْ تُسْقِطَ السَّمَاءَ كَمَا زَعَمْتَ عَلَيْنَا كِسَفًا أَوْ تَأْتِيَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْمَلائِكَةِ قَبِيلا
أَوْ يَكُونَ لَكَ بَيْتٌ مِنْ زُخْرُفٍ أَوْ تَرْقَى فِي السَّمَاءِ وَلَنْ نُؤْمِنَ لِرُقِيِّكَ حَتَّى تُنَزِّلَ عَلَيْنَا كِتَابًا نَقْرَؤُهُ قُلْ سُبْحَانَ رَبِّي هَلْ كُنْتُ إِلا بَشَرًا رَسُولا
وَمَا مَنَعَ النَّاسَ أَنْ يُؤْمِنُوا إِذْ جَاءَهُمُ الْهُدَى إِلا أَنْ قَالُوا أَبَعَثَ اللَّهُ بَشَرًا رَسُولا
قُلْ لَوْ كَانَ فِي الأرْضِ مَلائِكَةٌ يَمْشُونَ مُطْمَئِنِّينَ لَنَزَّلْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ مِنَ السَّمَاءِ مَلَكًا رَسُولا
And they say: We will by no means believe in you until you cause a fountain to gush forth from the earth for us.
Or you should have a garden of palms and grapes in the midst of which you should cause rivers to flow forth, gushing out.
Or you should cause the heaven to come down upon us in pieces as you think, or bring Allah and the angels face to face (with us).
Or you should have a house of gold, or you should ascend into heaven, and we will not believe in your ascending until you bring down to us a book which we may read. Say: Glory be to my Lord; am I aught but a mortal (Bashar) messenger? And nothing prevented people from believing when the guidance came to them except that they said: What! has Allah raised up a mortal (Bashar) to be a messenger?
Say: Had there been in the earth angels walking about as settlers, We would certainly have sent down to them from the heaven an angel as a messenger. [17:90-95]
وَقَالَتِ الْيَهُودُ وَالنَّصَارَى نَحْنُ أَبْنَاءُ اللَّهِ وَأَحِبَّاؤُهُ قُلْ فَلِمَ يُعَذِّبُكُمْ بِذُنُوبِكُمْ بَلْ أَنْتُمْ بَشَرٌ مِمَّنْ خَلَقَ يَغْفِرُ لِمَنْ يَشَاءُ وَيُعَذِّبُ مَنْ يَشَاءُ وَلِلَّهِ مُلْكُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأرْضِ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا وَإِلَيْهِ الْمَصِيرُ
5/18 And the Jews and the Christians say: We are the sons of Allah and His beloved ones. Say: Why does He then chastise you for your faults? Nay, you are mortals (Bashar) from among those whom He has created, He forgives whom He pleases and chastises whom He pleases; and Allah’s is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and what is between them, and to Him is the eventual coming.
وَمَا جَعَلْنَا لِبَشَرٍ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ الْخُلْدَ أَفَإِنْ مِتَّ فَهُمُ الْخَالِدُونَ
كُلُّ نَفْسٍ ذَائِقَةُ الْمَوْتِ وَنَبْلُوكُمْ بِالشَّرِّ وَالْخَيْرِ فِتْنَةً وَإِلَيْنَا تُرْجَعُونَ
And We did not ordain abiding for any mortal (Bashar) before you. What! Then if you die, will they abide?
Every soul must taste of death and We try you by evil and good by way of probation; and to Us you shall be brought back. [21:34-35]
Credit goes to the following link:
http://quranicteachings.co.uk/rasool-bashar.htm
mem sahib Your wrote:
Does the above any sense?
In the first sentence you say: “Hazoor paak didnt have a shadow - This is what I learned at mosque as a child.”
In the third sentence you say: “I suppose you can translate this to - he had a shadow - but it wasnt visible to any other being…”
If it was not visible to anybody, then how could they aviod stepping over it?
Make up your mind what you want to say.
Your logic is bonkers.
So Allah Almighty doesn’t want any body to step on the shadow of Rasool Allah?
And yet He (swt) lets the most despicable of people to throw obnoxious filth on him while he was in Sajdah!
Read the following incident:
One day, when she was not yet ten, she accompanied her father to the Masjid al-Haram. He stood in the place known as al-Hijr facing the Kabah and began to pray. Fatimah stood at his side. A group of Quraysh, by no means well-disposed to the Prophet, gathered about him. They included Abu Jahl ibn Hisham, the Prophet’s uncle, Uqbah ibn Abi Muayt, Umayyah ibn Khalaf, and Shaybah and Utbah, sons of Rabi’ah. Menacingly, the group went up to the Prophet and Abu Jahl, the ringleader, asked:
“Which of you can bring the entrails of a slaughtered animal and throw it on Muhammad?”
Uqbah ibn Abi Muayt, one of the vilest of the lot, volunteered and hurried off. He returned with the obnoxious filth and threw it on the shoulders of the Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace, while he was still prostrating. Abdullah ibn Masud, a companion of the Prophet, was present but he was powerless to do or say anything.
Imagine the feelings of Fatimah as she saw her father being treated in this fashion. What could she, a girl not ten years old, do? She went up to her father and removed the offensive matter and then stood firmly and angrily before the group of Quraysh thugs and lashed out against them. Not a single word did they say to her.
The noble Prophet raised his head on completion of the prostration and went on to complete the Salat. He then said: “O Lord, may you punish the Quraysh!” and repeated this imprecation on three times. Then he continued:
“May You punish Utbah, Uqbah, Abu Jahl and Shaybah.” (These whom he named were all killed many years later at the Battle of Badr)
On another occasion, Fatimah was with the Prophet as he made; tawaf around the Kabah. A Quraysh mob gathered around him. They seized him and tried to strangle him with his own clothes. Fatimah screamed and shouted for help. Abu Bakr rushed to the scene and managed to free the Prophet. While he was doing so, he pleaded:
“Would you kill a man who says, ‘My Lord is God?’” Far from giving up, the mob turned on Abu Bakr and began beating him until blood flowed from his head and face.
Also Allah (swt) let the noble blood of the Prophet (saw) be split of the ground in the streets of Taif and on the hills of Uhad (at the time of battle of Uhud).
So the shadow bit was more important, was it?
Re: Did Our Prophet Hadrat Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) had a Shadow?
So your question of if Rasul-Allah Sayyidina Muhammad (saws) didn't have a shadow, and why didn't the kaafirs accept him is quite a silly question. Let me answer your question with a question.
If Nabi Isa alaiyhis-salaam could perform miracles like bring dead back to life, and cure the leper and the blind and walk on water, why didn't the Jews believe in him?
So do you really believe that Rasul-Allah (saws) didn't have the ability to do such things? So you're saying Isa (as) could and Rasul-Allah (saws) could not? is that what you believe?
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Can someone tell me why its very important to discuss whether Prophet Mohammed :saw: had shadow or not? Why the hell it is discussed in last 150 years? I hate all those who created these conspiracies. I divided Ummah and did no good to Prophet himself, Allah and his religion.
What his shadow has to do with our today’s life or Islam?
Re: Did Our Prophet Hadrat Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) had a Shadow?
well said
Re: Did Our Prophet Hadrat Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) had a Shadow?
You can say that again but this time a bit louder, please.
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nobody’s bothered about that. everybody is just having good time.
sorry all, i was being sarcastic. what i really wanted to say how is it constructive to know about the presense or absense of a shadow?
my own belief is that he was a bashar as Ibn Sadique has told in detail above..
Good job Ibn Sadique
Re: Did Our Prophet Hadrat Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) had a Shadow?
what about mohr-e-nabuwat??
Didn't all prophets have that.
Re: Did Our Prophet Hadrat Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) had a Shadow?
what is a "mohr-e-nabuwat"?
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Oh my Good God! So much fighting going on around here. Well I didnt read many replies on the first page with this mentioned…but here’s my bit.
Always while reading Islamic literature in schools and stuff, we read that the Rasool lil la swalil la ho alay hay wasalam, used to have sort of an “Abr” following him PBUH. So though he did have a shadow, but the “abr” casted enuf shade that his shadow was never really seen or visible enuf for others to step on. "abr’ is like a cloud or something I suppose. If u want to look into further details, please order urself Islamiyat books from Pakistani school text from grade 1 all the way till grade 10. U may find refferences to it somewhere in the islamic storyz related in those text books.
Itsme 
Tum ko is bath ki khabar nahi thi hain?
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what are you talking about? i never read this in any of the islamiyat books.
please give a proper reference from Quran or ahadees.
thanx
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^So maybe we went to different schools with different set of ideaologies. Who can blame the difference in literature they choose as text for the us 
Everyone is entitled to give their own knowledge, and what I’ve read most of the time in schools, just quoted and put it to words here. I am so not trying to convice u if u already have preconcieved notions about the entire thing. Neither am I interested in getting pulled or caught up into the notoriously despicable whirlpool everyone has got it going here. So please thanks but no thanks!
Lajo, itsme, Sadiyah…whoa so anytime we want to vent and fight some, we shud come party here 
for everyone else!
FIGHT FIGHT this is fuNNN 
ps. Itsme: Does your shehr has any cheese cake factory mon? Yay ithna rookha pheeka sa jahan tumhara, is shehr mie mosam-e-garma kab ata hie. I’m so sick of the grey skies! 
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For all fitna-parwar guppies, siyaanay keh gaye hain:
baad az khuda buzurg tuhi qissa mukhtasar
Now if he :saw: was a human or noor, had shadow or not, is alive or dead, comes to milaad party personally or not, listens to our darood directly or via angels, ARE all irrelevant issues. Love Allah and Love his Prophet and try to obey their orders/seerat. Allah knows better about his best creation Mohammed :saw: and we are nobody to discuss his status and give verdict on these matters.
Thanks!
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I agree 100%…:k:
Quran tells you what to do, Ahadith tells you how to do…
If anyone comes from anywhere saying nonsensical stuff about Islam that is not found in these two sources, throw it in the garbage…
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I have heard of it - but then again there are no hadiths to support it (to the best of my knowledge)
are you poking fun of ma city 
, dont tell me that -2*celcius is cold for you :D.
idhr humnay koi dairy farm nahee khola howa jo cheeze cake aap ko provide karain.
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...
that is also a problem bhaijan both sects have their own sets of hadith you will not consider theirs authentic they will not consider yours authentic .....so which one should we throw in the garbage?
simply stick to the basics (No God but Allah and Muhammad(pbuh) is his LAST prophet) and after that follow whatever you feel is right or "authentic"
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whats that mean?
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So u r saying the stuff they teach in text is a buncha u know what?
Its a restaurant which ur city is depraved of. ANyway I went to redlobster instead. Cold doesn’t bothers me, but no sun in the sky does 
though I love the rain bit for sure 
Re: Did Our Prophet Hadrat Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) had a Shadow?
interesting topic.
i got alil confused reading this thread since some of u said he has a shadow & some think otherwise.
I searched google & got the following:
Is there any hadeeth which clarifies that prophet Muhammad Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam did not have a shadow ?
A: Zakwaan reports that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) never had a shadow. This narration is recorded by Hakim Tirmidhi. (Seek al-Khasaaisul Kubrah of Suyyooti vol.1 pg.164; Subulul Hudaa war rashaad vol.2 pg.90 and Sharh zarqaani alal mawaahib vol.7 pg.200)
Al-Muhaddith Ml. Zafar Ahmad Thanwi [ra] has indicated towards the extreme weakness of this narration. (Imdaadul Ahkaam vol.1 pgs.338, 340)
Imam Zurqaani also states that Imaams ibnul Jawzi and ibnul Mubaarak have reported on the authority of Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Abbaas (Radhiallaahu Anhu) that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) did not have a shadow. (Sharhu Zurqaani vol.7 pg.200).
However, the authenticity of this narration still remains unclear to us.
On the contrary, Imaam Ahmad has narrated from Sayyidatuna Aaisha [Radhiallaahu anha] that Sayyiduna Zaynab [Radhiallaahu anhu] said (as part of a lengthy Hadith), ‘Until one day I, at the time of midday, I could see the shadow of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) approaching.’ (Musnad Ahmad vol.6 pg.132; Hadith24883)
This Hadith indicates to the fact that Rasulullah [Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam] did have a shadow.
Allaamah ibnul Qayyim [ra] has mentioned a narration from Sayyiduna Anas ibn Maalik [Radhiallaahu anhu] in which the following words are narrated from Rasulullah [Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam], ‘… And I saw my and your shadows’. (Haadiyul Arwaah pg.50 – see Fataawa Mahmoodiyah vol.1 pg.109)
Ml. Anwar Shah Kashmiri [ra] has stated that, ‘I haven’t come across any (authentic) narration with regard to Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] not having a shadow. (Malfoozaat-e-Kashmiri pg.248; also see Fataawa Rasheediyyah pg.167)
Some Ulama have chosen to reconcile between these conflicting reports, by stating that it is possible that Rasulullah [Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam] at times had a shadow and at times he did not. Rasulullah [Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam] not having a shadow at times, could also be deduced from the narration that states, ‘Rasulullah [Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam] used to be shaded with a cloud.’ (Bawaadirun-nawaadir, Ml. Ashraf Ali Thanwi pg.369)
Al-Muhaddith Allaamah Zafar Ahmad Thanwi [ra] has stated that it would not be incorrect for one to hold the view that Rasulullah [Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam] did have a shadow. On the other hand, if one holds the opposite view, i.e. that Rasulullah’s shadow was not visible, it could be justified. He further states that this is a very famous view among Ilama as well, which indicates that there would be some proof for it – although we haven’t located it. (Imdaadul Ahkaam vol.1 pg.340)
and Allah Ta’ala Knows Best
still confuse:bummer: 