Re: Did Our Prophet Hadrat Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) had a Shadow?
what nonsense…
he was a human in every physical attribute…
he felt hot and cold, he felt hunger and fatigue, he felt happy and sad, he was a normal human being and was not some other creature…
he very well had a shadow…
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after all this not 1 who claims That The Rasool(Saw) didnt have a shadow have not provided any proof.
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Does it really matter?
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Does the whole concept of whether the Propher PBUH possess a shadow matter? Is it a critical part of our faith?
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nope it does not matter whatsoever and i totally agree with you. the only thing i find scary is when people try to speak things that are not based upon proof, thats what matters bro.
I dont have time to argue abt Shadows cos it shows the Ignorance within the ummah. arguing abt Wther the Rasool(saw) had a shadow or not!
if he did show us proof and we'll believe it n if you cant then just stay quite.
Islaam is not like christianity where They just make up stuff without proof.
Islaam is based on Evidence n proof.
if you believed The Rasool(saw) didnt have a shadow pleasen show an Authentic Hadeeth to back yr claim otherwise stay silent and lets end this thread!!
Re: Did Our Prophet Hadrat Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) had a Shadow?
Yes…To attribute something to our faith or its parts thereof which is false should be corrected…
Nowhere by the Sahabas, the Tabiyeen, the Salaf e.t.c. do we come across as something so nonsensical as the Holy Prophet :saw: not having a shadow…
He was a human being like any other but just graced with Prophethood and as close to perfection of character as any human is capable of…
To attribute something to him not found anywhere is quite wrong…
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People's ignorance amazes me especially when they are committing blasphemy while thinking of it as respect.
Our prophet was not a human like us, he was special, he did not commit any sin, he can not go to hell (astaghfirullah).
Do not compare your dirty and filthy being with his pure and sinless being, he was superior to you in each and every aspect.
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Say (O Muhammad): "I am only a human being like you. It is inspired in me that your Ilah (God) is One Ilah (God - Allah), therefore take the Straight Path to Him (with true Faith - Islamic Monotheism) and obedience to Him, and seek forgiveness of Him. (41:6)
"Say (O Muhammad), 'If the oceans were ink for the words of my Lord, the ocean would have run out before my Lord runs out of words, even if we supplied twice as much ink.' Say (O Muhammad), 'I am no more than a human being like you. It has been revealed to me that your God is ONE GOD. Thus, anyone who looks forward to meeting his Lord shall lead a righteous life, and NEVER SET UP ANY IDOLS beside his Lord.'" (18:109-110)
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Open your eyes, He was phsycally a human being, he had two eyes, two arms, he ate, married and reproduced, but ever heared of a thing called "soul" ? our physical body is just a temporary house for our souls, body belongs to this world, you soul belongs to all the worlds. so he had a pure and PERFECT soul which makes him an unmatchable person on the earth, please do not insult him by saying that he was like dirty you (astaghfirullah).
Allah can fit any soul and any being into any kind of body, the angles for instance who used to visit earlier prophets, came in human form. When two or so angels came to hazrat LOOt (as) they came as two beautiful youngsters, and the people of that age who were extremely homosexuals tried to abuse them as well because they thought the angels were human beings like them, I compare your ignorance with those people.
Jins, for another example, can appear like human beings as well but this does not make them human beings.
another example is that of the tree through which allah talked to hazrat Musa (as) now what does that mean, would you all thick people start calling that tree your god ?
If a prophet is as trivial as you and me then how come hazrat Isa (as) talked while he was still an infant ? has any of you thick people had a kid, by any chance, who talked in his mother's lap ? oh and has any of you sisters have had a baby without intercourse ? hazrat isa was born this way FYI, and mind you our prophet is superior to all other ancient prophets.
now please at least stop calling him as ordinary as you, this is completely outrageous, don't take the verses out of context, put some thought into your beliefs before it's too late.
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On one hand you type an Ayah in which the Quran says he is a human being, on the other hand you deny the same Ayah by saying he was not…What’s wrong with you man…You arguing with the Quran?
Hz. Isa :as: and all the Prophets did as they did by the will of Allah :swt:…Not because they were superhumans…Whatever they said and did was because they were divinely inspired…
And prove to me where it says in Quran or Sunnah that the Prophet (pbut) were not humans but something different…
If you can’t find any, then stop misguiding others…
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no we are not callim him ordinary as he was th greates of creation and we know that and he was the Seal of the ProphetS(as) and we know that but we dnt exaggerate him like you lot do.
*Bukharee Volume 4, Book 55, Number 654: Narrated 'Umar: I heard the Prophet saying, "Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave. So, call me the Slave of Allah and His Apostle." *
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Mashaallah @ your intelligence, I gave you examples of how he had appearance of a human being yet his soul was completely different. but you, like all other ignorants, will keep repeating your silly BS.
You say whatever prophets did including miracles, they did by the will of Allah ? … so ? no one denies that, how can a prophet do something without the will of Allah ? quran says that Mohammad is as much human being as all others BUT he does not speak other than what Allah wills him to, and he ONLY speaks what is revealed on him (I don’t remember where exactly this verse occurs in quran, but I am sure everyone of you knows about it) now this clearly tells you that he was human being only physically but he had a soul of a prophet, a perfect pure and a sinless being, someone who would not utter a word other than what allah tells him to, a person who is a guide for all the trillions of people who came and has yet to come until Qayamat. prophethood is not a joke.
Show me a person who has the same charchteristics as Mohammad (other than having two arms and two legs) and I’ll believe you.
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Forget similarities and comparisons…
Simply bring me proof from the Quran or Sunnah that he was something else other than a normal human being and I’ll believe that he had no shadow, roses grew where his sweat fell and a cloud always gave him cover (All beliefs held by the Barelvis)…
Re: Did Our Prophet Hadrat Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) had a Shadow?
Syed Mohsin It would be better if you were saying Mashaallah @ your own ignorance.
You have been shown clear ayahs of the Quran [Words of Almighty Allah] and yet you are adamant in your emotional beliefs.
To say that the Prophet (saw) is a Human is in no way an insult or to downgrade him.
Human Kind is the best creation of Allah (swt). And the Prophet (saw) is the best of the Human Kind.
Please ponder over the following ayahs again and let me know from where you got that the Prophet/Prophets is/are having a different soul than to other Human being.
Say (O Muhammad): "I am only a human being like you. It is inspired in me that your Ilah (God) is One Ilah (God - Allah), therefore take the Straight Path to Him and obedience to Him, and seek forgiveness of Him. (41:6)
"Say (O Muhammad), 'If the oceans were ink for the words of my Lord, the ocean would have run out before my Lord runs out of words, even if we supplied twice as much ink.' Say (O Muhammad), 'I am no more than a human being like you. It has been revealed to me that your God is ONE GOD. Thus, anyone who looks forward to meeting his Lord shall lead a righteous life, and NEVER SET UP ANY IDOLS beside his Lord.'" (18:109-110)
Any hint of having a different type of Soul from other Human Beings?
I am not talking about purity and piety here. In this every one agrees that the Prophet (saw) cannot be matched.
Take note that it was the Mushrikeen of Makkah who did not accept that the Prophets should be or could be a Human Being like themselves. They wanted someone made out of light, like an angel to be a Prophet!
And they say: What is the matter with this Messenger that he eats food and goes about in the markets; why has not an angel been sent down to him, so that he should have been a warner with him? 25:7
Allah (saw) reminds the Mushrikeen that the Prophet (saw) has been sent from among them and that the Prophet (saw) is a Human Being as he has Human needs.
And We sent not (as Our messengers) before thee other than men, whom We inspired. Ask the followers of the Reminder if ye know not? 21:7
We gave them not bodies that would not eat food, nor were they immortals. 21:8
And He Says: (And We never sent before you (O Muhammad (saw)) any of the Messengers but verily, they ate food and walked in the markets, …)[25:20].
We never sent before thee any messengers but lo! They verily ate food and walked in the markets. And We have appointed some of you a test for others: Will ye be steadfast? And thy Lord is ever Seer. 25:20
"Say (O Muhammad (saw): "Glorified (and Exalted) be my Lord (Allah) above all that evil they (polytheists) associate with Him! Am I anything but a man, sent as a Messenger?""[17:93].
And
He says: “Now has come unto you a Messenger from amongst yourselves: it grieves him that you should fall into distress: ardently anxious is he over you. To the Believers is he most kind and merciful.” 9: 128
He also says: “It is He who has sent amongst the unlettered a messenger from among themselves, to rehearse to them His signs, to sanctify them, and to instruct them in Scripture and Wisdom – although they had been, before, in manifest error.” [62: 2]
Thus, Prophets and Messengers, due to their human qualities, are exposed to sleep and wake up, be sick and get well, come under trial and face difficulties even more than any other human being.
The Prophet (saw) stated that "Angels were created from light and the Jinn from a flame of fire and Adam (as) from what was described to us, i.e. from dust". [Reported by Imam Muslim]
Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is. 3:59
The Prophet (saw) is a human being from the progeny of Adam (as).
However, Prophets and Messengers are the chosen persons from among human beings, and Allah has reared them under His protection and care so that they can deliver His Message in its pristine form.
There are two other creations mentioned in the Quran; the Angels and the Jinn. The Prophets were not from these two but the third that is Human.
May be to your sensitivities I have really insulted the Prophet (saw). (I seek refuge in Allah (swt) ever doing so.)
Also can you show me from any authentic book that the Prophet (saw) had no shadow?
Keep the following hadith posted earlier by brother faisal as salafi in mind always:
Narrated 'Umar: I heard the Prophet saying, "Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave. So, call me the Slave of Allah and His Apostle." - Bukharee Volume 4, Book 55, Number 654
Re: Did Our Prophet Hadrat Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) had a Shadow?
Jazak’Allah Akhee for collecting The verses.
Re: Did Our Prophet Hadrat Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) had a Shadow?
Here is the proof for the artful doubters, that Sayyidina ar-Rasul-Allah Alaiyhis-salaatu was-salaam, DID NOT, have a shadow.
Jazakum Allah khaiyrun.
1) Imam Hakim al-Tirmidhi in his book, **Nawadir ul-Usul*, *narrates from
Dhakwan (ra), a close companion of the prophet (saws), the following hadith:
"The shadow of the Holy Prophet Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim could not be seen in the brightness of the sun, nor in moonlight".
2) Imam al- Jawzi, in his book, Kitab al-Wafa' narrates from
Abdullah ibn Abbas (ra), the cousin of Rasul-Allah (saws), the hadith:
Allah's Messenger had no shadow, not while standing in the sun, but the brilliance of his Noor surpassed the rays of the sun; nor while sitting before a burning light, but his luminous Noor excelled the lustre of the light".
3) Imam Nasafi in his Tafsir Madaariq, narrates the hadith from
Hadhrat Uthman ibn Affan (ra):
"Allah Almighty does not let your shadow fall on the ground, so that no foot of man can fall on it"
4) *Imam Jalaluddin al-Suyuti rahim-Allah, **in *Khasa'is ul-Kubra, **narrates from ibn Saba (radi'Allahu anh'):
"This is also a unique feature of the Holy Prophet Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim that his shadow did not touch the ground, because he was Noor, and when he used to walk in the sunshine his shadow could not be seen".
The Ulema have also stated, based on their greater than us knowledge of ahadith and al-Qur'an:
**Imam Qadi Iyad in his ash-Shifa'a states:
**"The Holy Prophet (saws) did not possess a shadow in the brightness of the sun or in the moonlight, because he was Noor (light)".
**Imam Ahmed Qastalani states in his book Al-Mawahib ul-Dunya:
**"The Holy Prophet (saws) did not possess a shadow in the brightness of the sun or moonlight as proven from the Ahadith of at-Tirmidhi ash-Sharif, of Ibn Dhakwaan, and Ibn Saba".
**Shaykh Abd' al-Haqq Muhaddith al-Dehlvi states in Mudarijin Nubuwat:
**"The Holy Prophet's (saws) shadow did not appear in sunshine nor in moonlight".
Re: Did Our Prophet Hadrat Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) had a Shadow?
I see only two sources from Sahaba and I have no clue who the other people are…And even in sources of the Sahaba I see no references to which books they are coming from, whether Bukhari or Muslim or other…
And the two sources of Sahaba have no reference to them…
Re: Did Our Prophet Hadrat Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) had a Shadow?
Some authentic narrations that the Prohet (saw) did have a shadow.
Sayyida A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) narrates that once while the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) was on a journey, the camel of his wife Sayyida Safiyya (Allah be pleased with her) fell ill. However, his other wife Sayyida Zaynab (Allah be pleased with her) had an extra camel.
The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said to Sayyida Zaynab: “The camel of Safiyya has become ill, can you lend her your extra camel?” She replied: “should I give that Jew?” (Sayyida Safiyyah was originally a Jew). So, (upon hearing this, the Messenger of Allah became upset and) deserted her for two or three months and he would not come to her…. She says: “Until one day, at midday, I could see the shadow of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) approaching…..” (Musnad Ahmad, 6/132)
Sayyidduna Anas ibn Malik (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that, one night the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) led us in prayer, and whilst in prayer he stretched out his hand and then pulled it back. We said: “O Messenger of Allah! We saw you doing something in prayer that we have not seen you do before.”
The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Indeed, Paradise was presented before me, and I saw in it, fruits that were low and near. I intended to take one but was told to holdback, thus I held back. Then Hell was presented before me until I saw my and your shadow in it, thus I gestured to you to move back.” (Mustadrak al-Hakim, 4/456 & authenticated by Imam al-Dhahabi)
Did the Prophet have a shadow?
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=7&ID=2786&CATE=1
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jazak Allah khayr brother ibn-e-sadique, i hope these ppl who do not take the prophet (saw) as a human will surely learn from this....
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As Salaamu' Alaiykum,
As you have stated ibn Sadique, that article to which you are referring to at the end of your post from sunnipath.com, , states in clear words, that there are two opinions amongst the Ulema of this Ummah as to whether Sayyidina ar-Rasul-Allah (saws) had a shadow or not.
Here is a quote from the article on Sunnipath.com which you have referenced:
"One may believe that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) did not possess a shadow and there is nothing wrong in believing this, for many scholars (as mentioned earlier) did have this opinion. At the same time, if one did not believe this due to the other narrations indicating that he did have a shadow, then there is nothing wrong in that also. It is not a matter of belief and disbelief, or Sunnah and Bid’a, and one will not be asked regarding this on the Day of Judgment (qiyama). We need to concentrate on the more immediate aspects of Deen, which is to practically follow and implement the ways of the best of creation, our beloved & Master, the Messenger of Allah (May peace and blessings be upon him).
And Allah knows best"
Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari
Darul Iftaa, Leicester, UK
Since this is not a matter of Aqeedah, as stated by Shaykh Kawthari in the article which you referenced, this is a matter that is open to difference of opinion amongst the Ulema. I choose to follow the scholarly decision of the Muhadditheen and Mufasireen whom I have already quoted in my previous post.
Wassalaamu 'Alaiykum
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^ but u refuse to accept the very logical statement that Muhammad (saw) was in physical form human like any other human and hence had a shadow like any other object....
or r u saying that when a fire was lit behind him or sun was on his back, people cud see the source of light thru him as if he was transparent????
and if he was not transparent, then no man with even a little bit of mental correctness wud deny that when an object blocks a source of light from view, then it projects a shadow on the viewer....