Did Only the Ulema Oppose the Creation of Pakistan

[antiobl]

Re: Did Only the Ulema Oppose the Creation of Pakistan

As no one could oppose my claim, so as far Gupshup forums are concerned, it is proved that the propaganda of secular people that only Ulema opposed creation of Pakistan is a myth. Secular people concocted the history to mind wash innocent people of Pakistan. The discussion seems to be nearlt over.

B Haur sahib, your point of view should be respected even when you are trying to support Mullah-inspired revisionist history.

The only person of some value in your "long" list is my hero Bacha Khan Sahib. Here is Pushtoon gentleman of gentlemen who is being lumped and dumped to support some petty Mullah agenda. And that's truly sad that our intellectuals will get down and rub a great man with those awful Mullah dirties.

Bacha Khan sahib was an "Indian nationalist" (roped in by socialists) who was willing to forgo his Pashtoon-nationalism in favor of a much bigger cause i.e. Indian socialist-nationalism. He was a visionary albeit a wrong kind of visionary. However he earns our respect for being a gentle soul pursuing his nationalist-socialist agenda.

He put on the red coat of his era and started a "Khidmatgar" (public service) movement, still he never got down to the terrorism so common among commies then and commies + Mullahs of today.

Whatever his stance was, he accepted the reality of Pakistan unlike 1000's of Mullahs and the petty-Mullah-lackeys.

Whatever Bacha khan Sahib thought about Jinnah, he would seldom declare his opponents as "Kafirs" and "Murtads".

Whatever Bacha Khan Sahib thought about Punjabi leadership, he had no trouble making Punjab as his favorite place to stay.

Whatever Bacha Khan had was mostly against Muslim Leaguer Pashtoons lead by a ghunda mentality Qayyum Khan.

But he never tried to revise the history, he never stooped to terrorism against his new home the Pakistan.

So please do not bring a great man in the list of midgets including his midget son.

Thank you.

p.s. And yest Mullahs lied back then and they still lie. And anyone supporting Mullahs will surely be a lier and a revisionist.

[antiobl]

Re: Did Only the Ulema Oppose the Creation of Pakistan

@shawaiz_K

Pashtuns fought hard to dislodge the British from their territory.

This is a typical statement based on half truths.

Pashtuns of Tribal areas in general and Wazirastan in particular were the trouble makers.

Settled areas of modern day Sooba Sarhad were lawful citizens of the British Raj and so were the Afridis of Tribal areas.

Good workers and fighters among Pashtoons were no trouble makers. They were instead teachers, businessmen, and "soldiers" in the British East India.

@shawaiz_K

....... Later they **[Pashtoons] **worked together with the Congress that their aim was similar, both wanted to get rid of the British raj. .

Pashtoons like any other group were divided in pro-Congress socialists and anti-Congress free marketers.

Bacha Khan Sahib represented the socialists, while the rest of Pashtoons joined the free-marketers.

British Raj was going to go. They wanted to make a deal with the local politicians so that British interests (military and economic) were fully protected once they leave. That's precisely why newly born India joined British-Commonwealth and so did Pakistan.

Congress was so "loyal" to British Raj, that they insisted Lord Mountbatten to stay on as governor general to "help" ease the pain of Indian birth.

Even though Pakistan refused similar help, we still ended up hiring a lot British to run our banks, army, and other institutions.

This my Shah Sahib is not a sign of "fight" for "independence" from Brits. It is a negotiated settlement at best.

@shawaiz_K

..... Pashtuns had no fear of Hindu dominance and had no reson to join the ML in its struggle for a seperate muslim state. .

Well fear of "Hindu dominance" was never an issue in Muslim majority states. How could it be when you have less than 20% Hindus living in a state.

Hindu dominance was issue only in UP, Bihar on state level and Delhi on federal level. On Federal level it was much more "constitutional" issue than anything else.

@shawaiz_K

.....It would have been better if BK had strived for the reunification of NWFP and upper Balochestan with Afghanistan, but he perhaps knew that the British would never let it happen.

This is a strange "mental twist" on your part Shah Ji. Bacha Khan Sahib was a visionary and not a pathetic "hostage taker" from Wazirastan.

He was a socialist for sure, but not as stupid as you want him to be. Afghanistan was a land of dirt, poverty, and lawlessness back then as it is now. And Bacha Khan was a sophisticated elite from Sarhad. The last thing he wanted to do was make Peshawar as poor, dirty, and dusty as the Afghan cities of today.

p.s. It is time we quit conspiring against our own homes and blowing them up with the help of suicidal Arabs.