Detained Indian fishermen

KARACHI: Pakistan Navy has detained 40 Indian fishermen and impounded their five boats for illegally intruding into Pakistani territory in the Arabian Sea, police said on Sunday.

A navy patrol told the fishermen that they were in Pakistani waters, but they kept fishing, said Athar Rashid Butt, a police official in Karachi. He said the men will appear before a judge on Monday, and the fish found on the boats will be auctioned. The territorial waters between Pakistan and India are not clearly demarcated, and fishing boats from both South Asian nations frequently enter each other’s territory. Fishermen are often held without trial in India and Pakistan, and in many cases wait years before being released.

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Pakistani fishermen cast their net near Karachi, Pakistan on Monday, Dec. 20, 2004. Hundreds of fishermen are mprisoned for months, even years, by rivals Pakistan and India for violating a disputed maritime border, despite a yea rlong peace effort and agreement by the South Asian countries to release those already held.

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Jinnah Bai, whose fisherman husband Achar is detained in India, washes utensils at her house in Pakistani coastal area of Karachi, Monday, Dec. 20, 2004. Hundreds of fishermen are imprisoned for months, even years, by rivals Pakistan and India for violating a disputed maritime border, despite a yearlong peace effort and agreement by the South Asian countries to release those already held.

KARACHI, Pakistan Twelve-year old Sagan Veera was asleep at sea when the Pakistani Coast Guard kicked him awake. The Indian trawler he worked on had strayed into Pakistani waters in the Arabian Sea. Now he languishes in jail, his young face etched with fear.Hundreds of fishermen share his fate, imprisoned for months, even years, by Pakistan and India for violating a disputed maritime border, despite a yearlong peace effort and an agreement to release those already held.Scores more fishermen are being arrested each month, mostly on the Pakistani side, as boats lacking modern navigational equipment cross the watery frontier in the hunt for a big catch.Veera, who is from Por Bander, in Gujarat, a western Indian state, was the youngest of the 55 Indian fishermen from 10 boats produced before a court last week after their arrest at sea.In an interview at a police lockup in Karachi, he recounted his surprise when a uniformed Pakistani official, rather than a fellow fisherman, woke him with a boot to his back.
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His elder brother, Rambik, 27, who had been working on the same boat, tried to console Veera, who said he longed to return to his father and sisters back in India. "Don't worry; we'll all go back home," Rambik said.But precedent suggests it could take a while. Pakistan holds 897 Indian fishermen, most in a jail on the outskirts of Karachi, the country's main port. Many have been detained for 12 months or more. During tenser political times, fishermen have languished in jail for years. India holds 108 Pakistani fishermen.Despite improved relations, the two countries have been slow to make good on an agreement last year to set up a hot line between their coast guards to share information about arrests and expedite releases.A Pakistani Maritime Security Agency spokesman, Khawar Hasan Khan, said Pakistan was seizing Indian vessels and their crews every other week. He claimed employers were pushing Indian fishermen to venture into rich Pakistani waters because the Indian government has restricted fishing in its own waters, in order to replenish marine stocks.
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Yet fishermen from both sides say boats lack navigational tools to let them know when they have crossed the poorly marked frontier, still subject to a dispute dating from a war in 1965."We can assess the depth of the sea," said Mangun Dahya, one of the Indians arrested last week. "We can forecast hurricanes. But small boats lack the gadgets to distinguish sea frontiers." But Khan described most border violations as intentional. He said Pakistan was lenient on boats straying up to 25 kilometers, or 15 miles, but he claimed Indian vessels often sailed much deeper into Pakistan's waters in groups of 15 to 20, staying in touch with each other using hand phones and wireless systems.In goodwill gestures, Pakistan last year freed hundreds of Indian fishermen, and India reciprocated. In June, they agreed to release the rest. Bureaucratic inertia and mutual suspicions mean that many remain behind bars.
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Detained Indian fisherboy Sagan Veera, front, sits with colleagues in custody at police lockup Friday, Dec 17, 2004 in Karachi, Pakistan. Hundreds of fishermen share his fate, imprisoned for months, even years, by rivals Pakistan and India for violating a disputed maritime border, despite a yearlong peace effort and agreement by the South Asian countries to release those already held

In the name of security, sab jaahiz hai.

Itna bara juram hai kay itnay sal quaid?

:(

Insaf bhee kisee cheez ka naam hai.

that is just sad...

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Sons of detained Pakistani fishermen Achar Baksh by the Indian authorities, Salman, right, and his brother Deeno, look from their make-shift house in Pakistani coastal area of Karachi on Monday, Dec 20, 2004. Hundreds of fishermen share his fate, imprisoned for months, even years, by rivals Pakistan and India for violating a disputed maritime border, despite a yearlong peace effort and agreement by the South Asian countries to release those already held.

what a pathetic form of warfare these two countries have been silently engaging in.....imprisoning each others' fishermen.

poor guys

Sorry, but now it’s my turn to totally PMS on you because I’m tired and crabby.

Stop talking about things you don’t know about. The arrest of Indian fishermen in Pakistani waters had virtually nothing to do with security, and instead is to do with them stealing fish from pakistani waters, leaving less for Pakistani fishermen to catch.

The Indian government has quite correctly restricted fishing in Indian waters in order to preserve India’s fish stocks, and I applaud the Indian government for making such a move in order to ensure future generations will be able to catch fish.

However, rather than accept the situation and tightening their belts for a few years, these criminal Indian fishermen are now coming into Pakistai waters in order to plunder our fish.

I absolutely commend Pakistan’s Coast Guard for doing such a sterling job catching these thieves and hope that they catch many more in years to come, and that anyone stealing Pakistani fish rots in a Pakistani jail for a long, long time.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2004/12/20/news/pakistan.html

A Pakistani Maritime Security Agency spokesman, Khawar Hasan Khan, said Pakistan was seizing Indian vessels and their crews every other week. He claimed employers were pushing Indian fishermen to venture into rich Pakistani waters because the Indian government has restricted fishing in its own waters, in order to replenish marine stocks … Khan described most border violations as intentional. He said Pakistan was lenient on boats straying up to 25 kilometers, or 15 miles, but he claimed Indian vessels often sailed much deeper into Pakistan’s waters in groups of 15 to 20, staying in touch with each other using hand phones and wireless systems

^if this is the case, then what explains the approximately equal instances and numbers of pakistani fishermen being jailed by indian coastal patrol? it wouldn't make sense as per your explanation, but it is the reality.

it's an issue of pride and power-tripping, i highly doubt anyone is counting fish here.

maddy,

are you saying holding 300+ fishermen in state prisons for a year or more on taxpayers' money is going to cost less than any fish they MIGHT catch?

if greed for fish outside restricted fishing waters were the reason, why would poor pakistani fishermen end up in indian waters, and subsequently get caught and imprisoned?

the same link you quote also says Yet fishermen from both sides say boats lack navigational tools to let them know when they have crossed the poorly marked frontier, still subject to a dispute dating from a war in 1965.

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Re: Detained Indian fishermen

Daily Times - 30th January

Pakistan arrests 43 Indian fishermen

KARACHI: Authorities on Saturday arrested 43 Indians for illegally fishing in its territorial waters, officials said.

“We have arrested 43 Indian fishermen and seized their seven boats for violating our maritime zone,” said Khawar Hasan Khan, Pakistan’s Maritime Security Agency spokesman. The fishermen have been handed over to the police, he said. Early this month Pakistan released 266 Indian fishermen who had been languishing in jails since last year for illegally fishing in Pakistani waters.

“The decision was made as a ‘goodwill gesture’ to India. We still have around 700 Indian fishermen in Pakistani jails. Some 108 Pakistani fishermen are behind bars in India on similar charges,” he said. afp
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Pakistan holds 101 fishermen
From correspondents in Karachi
March 01, 2005
PAKISTAN has arrested 101 Indian fishermen and impounded 16 boats for illegally entering its territorial waters in the Arabian Sea, the Maritime Security Agency (MSA) said today.The fishermen were arrested over the weekend about 70km to 120km inside Pakistani waters, a statement issued by the agency said.The men, believed to be from the western Indian state of Gujarat, had been handed over to the police, said the director of operations of the MSA, Mohammed Zakir.Pakistan and India frequently arrest each other's fishermen for trespassing in their territorial waters despite a recent thaw in their relations.

Police said the fishermen had been sent to a local jail. Adam, an arrested Indian fisherman, said that they were unware that they had floated into the Pakistani waters."The Pakistan Navy came and detained us with our boats," he told Reuters Television.Mr Zakir, the MSA official, said last month Pakistan released 266 Indian fishermen, including four children, who had been in jail since last year.But at least 663 Indian fishermen and their 113 boats still remain in Pakistani custody. They have been arrested over a period of more than a year and a half, MSA officials said.Mr Zakir said India also holds more than 140 Pakistani fishermen and their 23 boats.

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Wed Mar 2, 1:39 AM ET

ISLAMABAD (AFP) - Pakistan is likely to release more than 900 Indian fishermen and civilians held for illegal entry in a goodwill gesture to boost the peace process between the nuclear rivals, officials said.President Pervez Musharraf has recommended that 800 Indian fishermen held in Pakistani jails for crossing into its waters should be freed after completing legal formalities, foreign ministry spokesman Jalil Abbas Jilani told AFP on Wednesday.

Musharraf has also ordered the release of 31 Indian Sikhs after an appeal by visiting communist leaders from the neighbouring South Asian country, Jilani said. In addition to the Sikhs and the fishermen, another 118 detained Indian civilians are to be released "on humanitarian grounds" once the Indian government confirms their nationalities and travel documents, Jilani added. "Pakistan has decided not to keep those Indian nationals who have completed their prison terms here and prolong their misery. They should be released on humanitarian grounds," Jilani said.

One sore point between India and Pakistan has been the frequent detention of each other's fishermen for allegedly straying into their rivals waters in the Arabian Sea.On Sunday Pakistani coastguards arrested 101 Indian mariners. However in January Pakistan freed 266 Indian fishermen and both countries have made other mass releases in the past.