psyah
August 11, 2012, 10:58pm
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Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders
Look at verse 2:134. Here Allah used ‘Qad Khalat’
Also see 2:141 where the term qad khalat has been used.
You keep changing your position. First you tell me that Allah can keep humans alive without food. Now when its time to answer about this verse, you tell me that qad khalat means ‘come and gone’ whereas, ibn sadique and i have presented many many translation of this verse and in all of them it says messengers like him have ‘passed away’. Come and gone does not mean one is living. One goes away or leaves this world by dying ! HOw does that favor your stance? :S
I have told you eating along with not dying are 2 things mentioned in the verse. You are neglecting the not dying part. Allah does not die, but prophets do die. Allah does not eat and prophets do eat. Just eating is not enough for a person to not be called divine. Not dying is a divine atribute, which no prophet, no human being shares.
Christians say he was ascended physically up. Which is wrong.
Hadith says he will descend, not return.
You say where Allah could have used death, he used the example of food. Well, i dont understand why you’re not seeing this? Are you ignoring Allah’s word? Allah did say clearly that He a.s was a messenger like any other. And messengers like him have passed away. How else do you want Allah to explain it specifically? He explained prophets dying before Muhammad PBUH in 3-144 too. Messengers before Muhammad PBUH have passed away! Do you really think you can explain this by saying because Messengers like him have passed away, Jesus a.s have not ? C’mon buddy.. think !
Peace Mr.Popat
The term “Qad Khalat” translates as “passed away” or “passed on” or “come and gone” - as can be seen these all contain a literal meaning and metaphoric one … “qad khalat” can mean “has died” but it can also mean “gone” - And even if it didn’t the verse does not say “all” prophets - it merely says “prophets” but for these reasons and others within our tradition we can comfortably say that the Wisdom of Allah (SWT) has kept it clear that Isa (AS) cannot be exclusively said to have died anywhere in scriptures.